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What features do you never use?

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter Regular Member • Posts: 442
Re: What features do you never use?

Any and all features related to video.

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Albert Valentino Veteran Member • Posts: 9,768
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Video: have had my EM1.3 for over two years and have never shot video, same with my EM1.2. The myriad of possible video settings have made it too confusing and bothersome to bother playing with. All my video is shot with my phone, and all of those are under 60 seconds and total under 15 minutes/yr

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RSTP14 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,370
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Good question. These are the features I don't use or need ever: P Mode, WB BKT, Art BKT, ISO BKT, Art Modes except B&W.  These I seldom use but are must have: video, Bulb, live composite, focus limiter, 2x eZoom, B&W Art mode,  multi (2) exposures, anti-flicker. Most everything else (short of going through then entire manual) I pretty much use regularly I think.

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The Ghost of Caravaggio Contributing Member • Posts: 986
Re: What features do you never use?
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Here's a few that come to mind.

  • electronic shutter
  • video
  • custom in-camera JPEG rendering
  • exposure compensation
  • saving in-camera JPEGs
  • white balance bracketing
  • AF modes
  • AF illumination
  • interlocking spot focus and automatic exposure regions
  • wireless communication
  • white balance bracketing
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maarensv
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Re: What features do you never use?

Let's start with what I do use : Modes A, M and B, AF, (IB)IS, focus bracketing.

What I never use are: P, Auto, Art, Scenes, Video, auto ISO and whatever fancy features are within the menu. Oh well, customization is a fancy feature that makes sense.

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Cheapo Marx
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... the LCD screen.

On DSLRs I'm forced to use it for some settings changes and for chimping; on mirrorless I do everything via the EVF.

I adore fully articulated LCDs because you can shut the damn things.

PhotoMac503 Senior Member • Posts: 1,061
Re: What features do you never use?

OM-1
- Subject Detection because it's not reliable, I've found.
- Live ND because it's not strong enough to abandon filters entirely if you shoot in sunlight.

ALL MODELS
- Burst
Almost never because that's spray and pray which doesn't fit my mindful method of photography. I also don't want to waste time deleting unusable images.

  • Automatic/Program modes
    Almost never

-Scene Modes
I can figure out how to schoot scenes as good as any camera
-Custom modes (copying someone else's settings might as well use Automatic)

-Video
Very seldom.

-Flash
I think it's unethical to use flash on wildlife, which is a lot of my photography.

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Felice62 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,079
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Self-destruction.

I never ever use that feature

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Edward Lowy
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Re: What features do you never use?
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Very interesting thread - in a sense, it's asking "How did you learn to press the shutter?" For my part, that would be looking through the eyepiece of my Dad's OM-1 (the original one), and with a shutter of say 1/250, getting the exposure in the middle by adjusting the aperture.

What don't I use? I've never moved the focus point using the buttons on any Olympus camera - have always focused on my subject, half-pressed for focus lock and recomposed.

I guess the key thing I don't use enough is my brain - try as I might, I would like to approach photo opportunities with a bit more thought as to conditions and what I want to achieve. at least that one is in my control to put right.

FWIW, I own up to using P mode (never iAuto though), but make much more use of A these days. Auto ISO, yup, and it's that kind of area that i should be thinking more about.

Thanks to the OP for starting this.

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jonbev
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Re: What features do you never use?

I never use Custom settings or Raw, I sometimes use IA then check it's exif in preparation for an A shot, we all have preferences and the resulting image is proof of your expertise,  Fortunately, I do not use a state-of-the-art camera, If I did my list of never used settings would be a mile long.

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allematic Regular Member • Posts: 475
Re: What features do you never use?

I never use high res mode. I have tried it I have seen the improved detail at 100% and yet I have no use for it to bother.

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Auto mode, JPEG, Bulb, pixel shift/HHHR n/t
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skysurfer5
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PhotoMac503 wrote:

-Custom modes (copying someone else's settings might as well use Automatic)

That's not what custom modes are for. Custom modes are for fixing YOUR settings into memory. Settings such as button assignments, focus settings, file size and types, how memory cards are used, and a whole bunch more. That way, if you change settings during a shoot, you can reset the camera to your defaults (or one of your defaults if you use more than just C1) without having to manually change each setting back. This is especially important if you shoot genres that require different mixes of settings.

For example, on my E-M1.3, C1 is where I keep my default settings. I did watch a few videos and read a book or two for advice, but every setting I chose I selected myself. No matter how I change camera settings during the day, I can always get it back to my defaults by selecting C1.  That way, when I pick up the camera I know how it will be set up and there are no surprises.

My C2 is just like C1 except that I have the camera set for Monochrome (with my preferred sub-settings), which gives me a quick way to go from one to the other, which I do quite often.

I reserve C3 and C4 for special occasions, and I set them up beforehand. Usually, I copy C1 to C3, make the necessary changes, then copy C3 to C4 and switch from Natural to Monochrome. I like have two matched pairs of settings.

My C1 and C2 do a good job for family pics, travel pics, hiking, etc. For macro, astro, etc., they don't work as well, so they get the C3/C4 treatment.  When I take photos for work (I am a civil engineer, so project site photos and construction photos), I set up C3 for lower resolution JPGs instead of RAW+JPG and I ignore C4.

Most of the time, I use aperture priority. Some of the time (like the photos I took during our church service this morning for the church website), I shoot manual.  So, early this morning, I copied C1 to PASM, switched to M, made a few setting changes, then copied these settings to C3 and C4.  Finally, I changed C4 to Monochrome and I was good to go.

Frankly, I would like the ability to save 8 to 12 sets of settings, then recall the ones I want to C1/C2/C3/C4.

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MOD Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 46,352
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faunagraphy wrote:

jalywol wrote:

I do use mostly A, S, and once in a while M modes. Never auto, never P modes. Rarely if ever, auto ISO.

I mostly shoot in S (my custom modes are also set to S, just with different AF settings), but I can't imagine working with manual ISO. Mine's always set to auto and I take a few shots at a sufficiently fast shutter speed, then reduce shutter speed and change exposure to take some more shots at lower ISO. I only shoot in A mode if there's enough light and I want to get more fine detail by stopping down a bit or to increase DOF.

Interesting to note experiences.  My film camera days were originally MF only and aperture, etc was guided by one of those fangled light meters that needed a battery to work. Wasted a lot of expensive film in the process.

When I bought my first EOS slr with AF - it was a sort of heaven without the need to fiddle with split prism or guess.  But settings were still basically 'auto'. Sheer cost of film continued to be a limiting factor.

New fangled digital was P mode and auto to start with until I figured that A mode had its own wonders and have been basically A mode ever since.  I use S as needed when good shutter speed is essential and M mode when I wish to over-ride the camera's natural intentions.  Here I find that the exposure predictions of a good screen invaluable.  Sometimes high key and low key are what we wish to achieve.

At the start of the digital age the EV control was a sort of afterthought  and not made that easy to use.  My early Panasonic bodies at the time when the company to photography was still "Panasonic who?" made one control do triple duty for setting a range of things and EV was only one of them - they were still doing this as late as the excellent LC-1.

It was the Ricoh 'mistake' of allowing a thumb rocker switch do double duty as either EV or digital zoom that introduced instant easy-EV correction to me and probably all other users of the clever GRD who gave up the digital zoom alternative after one only try.

The GRD was such a happy camera to experiment with that I unofficially christened it "a teaching camera".

Gradually the digital camera manufacturers have made easy live EV correction an essential feature.  Probably one of the most useful features of digital after "free film" and live view exposure, composition and focus confirmation (screen magnification?). Live view of course happened  long before the dslr body discovered it, made it a feature, and named it as such.

Otherwise how might we might have been offered dslr video?

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cba_melbourne wrote:

grsnovi wrote:

20% of the features will give you 80% of what you need.

That is exactly how I see it too. I just use the bare basics 99% of the time. Never tried A and I modes, never use video, never live composite, never HR.... The only thing I sometimes miss on my GM cameras is IBIS.

I call the same thing "the Excel syndrome" whereby people buy a product for its features that they might never completely use let alone understand.

Strip the features out (that few use intelligently) and it will not sell unless it is very cheap.

Yet it costs the supplier not a lot to add more and more features and this helps sell more product and keep that "value to consumer" at the exciting (expensive) level.

The GM series is a classic case of how a "Pareto" or "Excel" fails.  Simply because it is the unused surplus of features of a product that justify the price.

I even get away without IBIS on my GM bodies where there are stabilised lenses that I can use.  Living proof that stabilised lenses are in fact quite stable in practice.  But of course the GM series are "unstable" camera bodies and that is what users base decision on.

Every Panasonic lens that needs stabilisation already has it and they continue to be so.  The Olympus 12-10/4.0 IS is a remarkably stable lens on a GM camera body.

Arguably a GM camera body or any of its derivatives really needs IBIS - including the G100.

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Due to the capability as well as complexity of the camera nowadays, we can highly customize our camera for various application.

AF, focusing area, metering mode, shooting modes, the related Menu setting, the button setup, Q.Menu setup (Olympus might not support Q.Menu), burst or single shoot etc, which can create a very specific shooting environment.

Through C I can set up the shooting environment and saved it to a C mode. Just recall that C when I need it and am ready to go instead of length setup for the same. Return to normal non C mode I can return to regular shooting immediately.

I use C modes a lot on my cameras. Because there are limited C modes (4~5 only), and I always can find something more useful than last setting, I keep on changing the content of C modes a lot. I have to stick a sticker behind the LCD to remind me what they are.

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Exactly what I do on all my cameras.

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Albert Valentino wrote:

Video: have had my EM1.3 for over two years and have never shot video, same with my EM1.2. The myriad of possible video settings have made it too confusing and bothersome to bother playing with.All my video is shot with my phone, and all of those are under 60 seconds and total under 15 minutes/yr

Same goes for me. On my older cameras I would routinely press the Record button while reaching for Fn2 or whatever. After missing some critical shots by accidentally hitting Record, I got into the habit of programming that button to do something else, right after unboxing the camera.

I do use video on occasion at default settings (and I do not know what my defaults are ), but shooting video gives me anxiety about missing out on some photography opportunities.

On a recent whale-watching trip, I rigged my GoPro 9 to my camera's hotshoe so that I could film and take photos at the same time. Peace of mind.

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Re: What features do you never use?

The Ghost of Caravaggio wrote:

Here's a few that come to mind.

  • electronic shutter

I'm curious - why don't you ever use electronic shutter?

  • white balance bracketing

One of those mysterious modes - what is it even for? Same goes for S-OVF. What does it do?

  • wireless communication

You aren't missing much. It will fail you right when you really need it, e.g. controlling your camera from your phone. I only use dedicated remote shutter releases now.

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Cheapo Marx wrote:

... the LCD screen.

On DSLRs I'm forced to use it for some settings changes and for chimping; on mirrorless I do everything via the EVF.

Same. I even work the menu and preview photos through the EVF.

I adore fully articulated LCDs because you can shut the damn things.

I like articulated LCDs because they protect the screen from scratches, but tilting screens like the E-M5's or PEN cameras are a lot better for ground-level shots, especially with telephoto lenses. With articulating screens you'd lose the subject easily.

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