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Any chance of a K01 update soon?

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egk4260 Contributing Member • Posts: 939
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

Mistral75 wrote:

zakaria wrote:

(...) At a time when companies were focusing on DSLRs, Pentax was producing the first APS-C mirrorless k01 (...)

Err... no. The first APS-C mirrorless camera was the Samsung NX10, announced in January 2010, two years earlier than the Pentax K-01 (February 2012).

Not counting Samsung among DSLRs makers (they were only rebadging Pentax cameras before the NX venture), the Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.

And Sony had already added a couple more in 2011, including the 24MP NEX-7. Canon was there with a more conventional appearing EOS-M a couple months after the K-01. I imagine development takes several years which would suggest the K-01 was being developed during the period Pentax was being swallowed by Hoya and then divvied up with Ricoh. Pentax may have had the right idea, likely the wrong camera, and definitely at a very difficult time.

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zakaria
zakaria Veteran Member • Posts: 6,556
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

Mistral75 wrote:

zakaria wrote:

(...) At a time when companies were focusing on DSLRs, Pentax was producing the first APS-C mirrorless k01 (...)

Err... no. The first APS-C mirrorless camera was the Samsung NX10, announced in January 2010, two years earlier than the Pentax K-01 (February 2012).

Not counting Samsung among DSLRs makers (they were only rebadging Pentax cameras before the NX venture), the Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.

Thanks for the correction. Do you remember when Q had been released.

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DougOB
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Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

zakaria wrote:

Mistral75 wrote:

zakaria wrote:

(...) At a time when companies were focusing on DSLRs, Pentax was producing the first APS-C mirrorless k01 (...)

Err... no. The first APS-C mirrorless camera was the Samsung NX10, announced in January 2010, two years earlier than the Pentax K-01 (February 2012).

Not counting Samsung among DSLRs makers (they were only rebadging Pentax cameras before the NX venture), the Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.

Thanks for the correction. Do you remember when Q had been released.

Before the K-01.  It was announced in June 2011 and I bought mine in October that year.

Doug

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flektogon
flektogon Veteran Member • Posts: 6,226
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Mark Ransom wrote:

SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

Yes, they're lagging on mirrorless - but at this point it's intentional. They tried it once and decided it didn't work for them. They are now on record as saying they will focus on DSLR going forward.

Personally I think they learned the wrong lesson from the K-01 experiment. They decided it meant that mirrorless would never work for them. But if you look at the reasons why it never sold well, none were unfixable:

  • They used a big name designer, hoping it would lend some fashion cachet and allow them to charge more. The price was more than their traditional customers would bear.
  • They kept the K-mount, which forced a larger camera than necessary.
  • They didn't include a viewfinder.

At this point I think their product focus is the correct decision for them, but the lost possibilities are to be mourned.

Well, everything is fixable except the K-mount. Pentax is not capable to come with any other mount. So, the K-mount is for Pentax blessing and curse at the same time .

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hhh316 Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

kypfer wrote:

hhh316 wrote:

All they need to do is remove the reflex mirror, keep the same flange distance so it is compatible with all lenses. Or do an adaptor.

… and all you need to do is find a few thousand (tens of thousands of?) like-minded people who are prepared to put a deposit up front and I'm sure Ricoh will chop the prism off the KF and sell you one.

Developing a new set of lenses is even more unlikely to happen, so the adaptor will be unnecessary.

In the meantime, buy a KF and use it in LiveView … it's as close as you're likely to get!

Hmmm, if only the KF was a camera without the mirror, it be cheaper no? Could have been an experiment to test the waters again. Would have been interesting.

SafariBob
OP SafariBob Veteran Member • Posts: 3,862
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

hhh316 wrote:

kypfer wrote:

hhh316 wrote:

All they need to do is remove the reflex mirror, keep the same flange distance so it is compatible with all lenses. Or do an adaptor.

… and all you need to do is find a few thousand (tens of thousands of?) like-minded people who are prepared to put a deposit up front and I'm sure Ricoh will chop the prism off the KF and sell you one.

Developing a new set of lenses is even more unlikely to happen, so the adaptor will be unnecessary.

In the meantime, buy a KF and use it in LiveView … it's as close as you're likely to get!

Hmmm, if only the KF was a camera without the mirror, it be cheaper no? Could have been an experiment to test the waters again. Would have been interesting.

Probably not if you add a decent evf back in.

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SR Hadden Regular Member • Posts: 292
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?
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SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

Why are you being mean? Yes, I did laugh but as a former K-01 owner and fan of misfit cameras, I would actually like a K-02. Faster AF and a hotshoe EVF and I'm good. Never going to happen, of course. The head of Pentax would rather shutter the business than see an EVF in one of his ILCs.

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OP SafariBob Veteran Member • Posts: 3,862
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

jpeghorror wrote:

SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

Why are you being mean? Yes, I did laugh but as a former K-01 owner and fan of misfit cameras, I would actually like a K-02. Faster AF and a hotshoe EVF and I'm good. Never going to happen, of course. The head of Pentax would rather shutter the business than see an EVF in one of his ILCs.

Lol, probably true too

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Fogel70
Fogel70 Senior Member • Posts: 1,885
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?
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Mistral75 wrote:

zakaria wrote:

(...) At a time when companies were focusing on DSLRs, Pentax was producing the first APS-C mirrorless k01 (...)

Err... no. The first APS-C mirrorless camera was the Samsung NX10, announced in January 2010, two years earlier than the Pentax K-01 (February 2012).

Not counting Samsung among DSLRs makers (they were only rebadging Pentax cameras before the NX venture), the Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.

Ricoh also had the GXR mirrorless system released in 2009.

So Ricoh is probably alone in having abandoned three different mirrorless system.

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Katzen Muscony Regular Member • Posts: 123
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?
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SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

0% chance of that happening

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SafariBob
OP SafariBob Veteran Member • Posts: 3,862
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?
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Fogel70 wrote:

Mistral75 wrote:

zakaria wrote:

(...) At a time when companies were focusing on DSLRs, Pentax was producing the first APS-C mirrorless k01 (...)

Err... no. The first APS-C mirrorless camera was the Samsung NX10, announced in January 2010, two years earlier than the Pentax K-01 (February 2012).

Not counting Samsung among DSLRs makers (they were only rebadging Pentax cameras before the NX venture), the Sony NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.

Ricoh also had the GXR mirrorless system released in 2009.

So Ricoh is probably alone in having abandoned three different mirrorless system.

Yes, definitely a good time to release some new gxr models. Infrared? Monochrome? 645?

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ogl
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Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

No chances. Never be K-02. Ricoh claims that only DSLR and SLR are the path of samurai.

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MartynasMartynas Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?
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SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

lag “a bit”? I hope you are joking

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Eric3456 Forum Member • Posts: 87
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

I imagine that while there are a few camera companies in Japan, there is understanding among the companies as to what features they can include in their cameras.

MartynasMartynas wrote:

SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

lag “a bit”? I hope you are joking

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OP SafariBob Veteran Member • Posts: 3,862
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

ogl wrote:

No chances. Never be K-02. Ricoh claims that only DSLR and SLR are the path of samurai.

Maybe they would contract the 0, and make it K2 - the ultimate high, unless you are on the path of the samurai.

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Model Mike Veteran Member • Posts: 3,903
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

Yes, indeed.

Rumour has it that the K02 will be made of tungsten and won't have a lens, making it even more efficient as a paper weight.

Model Mike Veteran Member • Posts: 3,903
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Hmmm... the K-01 may have been a furniture designer's castoff... but the GR II and GR III show that Ricoh can make a killer camera... and great glass.  The GR series neatly sidesteps the K-mount issue.

I'd love to see them make a 'full size' GR, with a great lens to compete with Leica. APS-C or full frame.

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klimbkat Senior Member • Posts: 2,659
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Model Mike wrote:

I'd love to see them make a 'full size' GR, with a great lens to compete with Leica. APS-C or full frame.

It appears that your "full size" includes APS-C, the actual format for the GR (including a great lens or two). Your wish is granted . . .

Dreamscape Photo
Dreamscape Photo Contributing Member • Posts: 538
Re: Any chance of a K01 update soon?

SafariBob wrote:

Feel like Pentax is starting to lag a bit behind on mirrorless.

They aint going for the mirrorless market. they are DSLR and soon hopefully film cameras

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Fogel70
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Model Mike wrote:

Hmmm... the K-01 may have been a furniture designer's castoff... but the GR II and GR III show that Ricoh can make a killer camera... and great glass. The GR series neatly sidesteps the K-mount issue.

I'd love to see them make a 'full size' GR, with a great lens to compete with Leica. APS-C or full frame.

The problem is that a Ricoh camera like that will also compete with Pentax. Which Ricoh want to avoid doing.

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