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Original EOS M -- are you still using it?

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mc-101 Regular Member • Posts: 160
Original EOS M -- are you still using it?

Hello,

The original Canon EOS M, which was released in 2012, features an APS-C sized CMOS sensor with a resolution of 18 megapixels. Are you still using it?

Does the sensor have any advantages over subsequent EOS-M sensors, perhaps in terms of "look"?  Is there any reason to hang onto the original M?

My question is motivated by the fact that I have an original M, a 22mm lens and the kit lens.  I think it might be time to move on as I've not used it in a while, but I have no idea what latter Ms are like.  Thanks

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adventurer69 Senior Member • Posts: 1,938
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I still use mine from time to time .I just can't see myself parting with it though .

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JRET
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Yes, along with an M2, M50, and a pair of M6II's.

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I gave away my original M to a friend, however, I do use my M2. 
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Marco Nero
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mc-101 wrote:

Hello,

The original Canon EOS M, which was released in 2012, features an APS-C sized CMOS sensor with a resolution of 18 megapixels. Are you still using it?

Occasionally I do.  But it's really only pulled out when I need an APS-C sensor but don't want the bulk of a DSLR... and my other EOS M (M6) is mounted to something else like a telescope rig.   My main reason to take the M with me is because I might be in a location where the camera could be accidentally damaged.
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The shutter mechanism and then operation speed of the original EOS M camera are a little slow compared to more recent models and it lacks the DPAF sensor.  But I have had tremendous success with the original EOS M camera.  The body is built like a tank.  Image quality is exceptional.  It's a remarkable camera.

Does the sensor have any advantages over subsequent EOS-M sensors, perhaps in terms of "look"? Is there any reason to hang onto the original M?

It makes for a great backup camera and the pictures it takes are literally identical to those from a DSLR with an APS-C sized sensor.
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My original EOS M (Mk1) + EF-M 22mm f/2 STM lens.

My question is motivated by the fact that I have an original M, a 22mm lens and the kit lens. I think it might be time to move on as I've not used it in a while, but I have no idea what latter Ms are like. Thanks

If you have a original EOS M camera and a 22 mm lens, they perform well together and offer excellent image quality.  As I said above, the EOS M mechanism is slower.  It does benefit slightly from a faster SD card.  The EF-M 22mm lens is one of the slowest lenses when powering up, even on more modern EOS M cameras.  It takes a couple of seconds for this lens to be ready to shoot when you first turn the camera on.  Even on my EOS M6 camera this lens takes a moment to power up yet the EF-M 32mm lens powers on instantly.  But this delay is rather minor and will not affect the images produced.
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The more recent EOS M model cameras make excellent work with the EF-M 22mm lens and presumably your kit lens.  They have a better AF system with the DPAF sensors, allowing faster and more reliable focus-lock on a target.  There's less hesitancy and delay.  You may find the original EOS M colors and White Balance to be ideal for skin tones and some claim the subsequent M2 produced a little more green in the skin tones.  But using the new User Preferences on latter models, you'd be fine.  The EOS M series matured around the time the M6/M5/M50 were released.  More recent models like the M6 II and M50 II would offer advances in the sensor and OS.
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The Touchscreens on the newer models are as responsive as an iPhone now.  Video is vastly better.  The menu options are greatly expanded and the high ISO settings are much smoother than the original limited ISO options on the original EOS M camera.  It's definitely worth upgrading if you enjoy the M series.

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ThrillaMozilla Veteran Member • Posts: 7,665
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The newer M models have better sensors, with a little higher resolution and a wider dynamic range.  That means that they can capture a wider range of brightness from shadows to highlights, with less noise, and less noise under low-light conditions.  It's still capable of taking fine pictures, however, and for many uses it would be quite hard to tell the difference.

The M lacks a viewfinder.  That's awkward for photography, but it keeps the camera small.  Recent models offer much faster, more versatile, and maybe better focusing.

Of course newer cameras offer a little better of everything, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it.  It can still take fine pictures.

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Maxmolly7
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I decided to sell my original M in order to minimize "dead" capital and to generate some spare for new stuff.

I now have M100 and M6ii in use and, M6 which is up for sale. Latter seems difficult to sell!?

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HaroldC3
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The 18MP sensor in the original M is a classic and still does very well.  It doesn’t have the greatest DR but I did enjoy the colors from it.  The newer 24MP sensor is definitely better in every regard while still maintaining a good color science.

the main thing I liked about the original M was the quiet, buttery shutter sound.  I might pick one up just to have a pocket cam but with cellphones these days it’s difficult to justify.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
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HaroldC3 wrote:

The 18MP sensor in the original M is a classic and still does very well. It doesn’t have the greatest DR but I did enjoy the colors from it. The newer 24MP sensor is definitely better in every regard while still maintaining a good color science.

the main thing I liked about the original M was the quiet, buttery shutter sound. I might pick one up just to have a pocket cam but with cellphones these days it’s difficult to justify.

One of mine is my site camera; I'd rather take that one through a culvert than my M100 despite it not having that flippy screen to see the viewfinder when it's in an awkward place.  Experience and a lot of trial shots generally do the job. I don't find it hard to justify it against my phone because I can't justify a mobile phone that costs more than three years' worth of my SIM only contract, never mind one that costs more than my camera. I also find the 22mm end of my EF-M zoom is better than the 37.1mm end of my 1" sensor RX100 zoom for picking up details up to 3m or so away,

OP mc-101 Regular Member • Posts: 160
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Thank you all. You have provided thoughtful, balanced and helpful comments. I now feel, given the remarks, less likely to sell the camera -- "just in case" I get the pang to use it in the future.

I have to say that I agree completely with the comments about build quality too. In the early days camera companies seemed to put more effort into this aspect of production and this made the cameras feels reassuringly robust. I'm sure that the latter M models are equally good, but its a 'feeling' I have. Thanks again, all...

Rock and Rollei Senior Member • Posts: 2,899
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I originally had 2 M bodies, one new, the other s/h as it worked out the cheapest way to get one body, both lenses (18-55 and 22), the little flash and a lens adapter. 
I sold one, but still have the other because I just love the tactility of the thing. Doesn't get a lot of use, but I enjoy it when I do.
And then I bought some more. Firstly a full spectrum converted one, and then a couple of IR converted ones - didn't get on with the full spectrum one, and it worked out cheaper to buy the cameras than have mine converted.
And yes, I use these. a fair bit. Still capable of very decent results.

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trungtran Senior Member • Posts: 1,747
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I have magic lantern on my one. Haven't used it for a long time, but not worth selling it.

The later M's are much better in AF and ISO performance. If you can find it cheap, it be worth an upgrade.

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Le Camerique Junior Member • Posts: 43
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The EOS M original has, to my eye, slightly better colors (in 24mp options I'd put M3 then M50 next) and more importantly is the only M that can use Magic Lantern.

ML is good if you wanna use manual lenses (it has a manual focus mode where half press shutter magnifies view, and letting off returns it to regular) or for video - if I recall it allows raw or at least log output.

OP mc-101 Regular Member • Posts: 160
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Agreed.  Little financial gain to selling.  I suspect I'd pass on to someone, perhaps a grandchild in the forlorn hope it distracts them from their cellphones...

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This is interesting. I should (re) look into ML. I recall it was primarily video enhancements. But it may have useful still photo upgrades. Especially if it allows access to more information in the raw files. Thanks for the advice.

lmkk New Member • Posts: 14
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Le Camerique wrote:

The EOS M original has, to my eye, slightly better colors (in 24mp options I'd put M3 then M50 next) and more importantly is the only M that can use Magic Lantern.

ML is good if you wanna use manual lenses (it has a manual focus mode where half press shutter magnifies view, and letting off returns it to regular) or for video - if I recall it allows raw or at least log output.

I concur that M has better color that of M50. My original EOS M + 22mm lens is pocketable, but I cannot do that with my EOS M50.

I still use the original M from time to time because of its image quality and small size. As long as I am not taking photos on moving objects, the relatively slow focus speed (I always use single focus spot) is not a big problem. By the way, my 22mm lens is bit loud when auto focusing.

Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
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lmkk wrote:

I still use the original M from time to time because of its image quality and small size. As long as I am not taking photos on moving objects, the relatively slow focus speed (I always use single focus spot) is not a big problem. By the way, my 22mm lens is bit loud when auto focusing.

A welcome side effect oh the slow focus is that it makes the touchscreen shutter release very effective - the camera had stopped vibrating by the time the shutter fires.

notbelonghere Forum Member • Posts: 69
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It is the 'number one' in all of EOS M cameras in 4 aspects:

1 build quality

2 jpeg color

3 cheapness

4 chronological order

(If it had tilt screen and Wi-Fi I would definitely use it. I cannot live without tilt screen.)

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
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dolivaw wrote:

It is the 'number one' in all of EOS M cameras in 4 aspects:

1 build quality

2 jpeg color

3 cheapness

4 chronological order

(If it had tilt screen and Wi-Fi I would definitely use it. I cannot live without tilt screen.)

The M2 had the build and colour quality, Wi-Fi capacity, slightly better AF and was slightly smaller.  Limited availability outside Japan though, and no tilt screen.

JRET
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Sittatunga wrote:

dolivaw wrote:

It is the 'number one' in all of EOS M cameras in 4 aspects:

1 build quality

2 jpeg color

3 cheapness

4 chronological order

(If it had tilt screen and Wi-Fi I would definitely use it. I cannot live without tilt screen.)

The M2 had the build and colour quality, Wi-Fi capacity, slightly better AF and was slightly smaller. Limited availability outside Japan though, and no tilt screen.

Agreed … I enjoyed my M2 as much as any of the M bodies I’ve owned

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