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20mm Vs 24mm for landscape

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Barry Reynolds
Barry Reynolds Regular Member • Posts: 243
20mm Vs 24mm for landscape

Taken at 11mm (19.2mm)

Which do you prefer?

I shot a lot with the Canon 11-22mm at 11mm which is about 19.2mm equivalent. Most photos were in the Alps and they looked great but looking back now, I'm wondering if a 24mm would have been better.

20mm takes a lot in but it also pushes back the background making the details harder to see.

I saw the 24mm IS USM on Flickr and the landscape shots have so much detail through the whole frame on full framwe

Maybe they lose the grandness of a 20mm as there is less distortion but I'm thinking a 24mm may be a more matured 20mm.

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Ray UK Contributing Member • Posts: 977
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There is no such thing as a "best lens for landscapes" it all depends on how much of the scene you want to include in the picture, sometimes a 10mm is best and other times it could be a 200mm.

If you had used a 24mm you would have got a slightly enlarged view of distant details but a more cropped foreground, you had a zoom lens so should just have used it at the 22mm setting if that is the effect you wanted.

It all comes down to giving more thought to the picture before you press the shutter button, something we can all suffer with at times especially when presented with an amazing scene as shown in your picture.

Photobygms
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It's actually 1.6x Field of View Crop Factor for Canon APS-c so 17.6mm (11mm x 1.6)

So it's full frame equivalent will be 17.6 -  35.2 mm  (11-22 x 1.6)

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John Crowe
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20mm, 24mm, shoot both with your zoom and see.

It really comes down to your preference.  I would spend more time with you zoom at 11mm and 15mm and see how they compare and what you like.

I have always been a wideangle fanatic so I have had pretty much every focal length from 11mm to 35mm, plus circular fisheye.

In the wideangle range I have only had fisheye and 17mm TS-E for ten years on FF. I have recently forced myself to photograph at 24mm for the reasons you mentioned and I am enjoying the difference.  I do also have 12mm.  The 17mm will always be my go to focal length and I do a lot of shifting stitching to also get down to 12mm but with much larger files with much more detail.

There is a significant difference between 20mm and 24mm, so if you intend to get a prime be sure which one you would use more often.

It is easier to compose successful images with the 24mm, but the 20mm can certainly add more drama, and is very rewarding when the subject presents itself.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,413
Re: 20mm Vs 24mm for landscape

Barry Reynolds wrote:

Taken at 11mm (19.2mm)

Which do you prefer?

I shot a lot with the Canon 11-22mm at 11mm which is about 19.2mm equivalent. Most photos were in the Alps and they looked great but looking back now, I'm wondering if a 24mm would have been better.

20mm takes a lot in but it also pushes back the background making the details harder to see.

It's a zoom lens with an 18-35mm full frame equivalent field of view, so you could have taken the picture at 15mm (24mm FFE) on your walk up to that spot. The idea of an ultrawide zoom lens like that is that you get to a position where the perspective looks pleasing (i nearly said right, but it's sometimes better if it looks very wrong, or at least, different) and then use the zoom to frame it. The point of an ultrawide is more to turn molehills into mountains or vice versa, but just to cram everything in. Sometimes it's what you leave out of an image that makes it interesting.

I saw the 24mm IS USM on Flickr and the landscape shots have so much detail through the whole frame on full frame.

That's more to do with the format. I love my 11-22mm lens, but the RF 16mm (10mm APS-C equivalent, a lens which has been much maligned on the EOS R forum) does actually give better image quality. But it is much more difficult to use effectively as it doesn't zoom at all.

Maybe they lose the grandness of a 20mm as there is less distortion but I'm thinking a 24mm may be a more matured 20mm.

Barry Reynolds
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Re: 20mm Vs 24mm for landscape

I don't own it anymore but it's more a thought as you need to make a conscious decision to shoot at 24mm. It's actually much easier to frame in the Alps with 11mm (17.6mm) as everything fills it but it also pushes back the background too far I think. I find I'd need to be much more discipled with a 24mm to find the right position to take the shot

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,413
Re: 20mm Vs 24mm for landscape

Barry Reynolds wrote:

I don't own it anymore but it's more a thought as you need to make a conscious decision to shoot at 24mm. It's actually much easier to frame in the Alps with 11mm (17.6mm) as everything fills it but it also pushes back the background too far I think. I find I'd need to be much more discipled with a 24mm to find the right position to take the shot

Look at Colin Prior's work, it's full of conscious decisions. You can definitely be disciplined and make the conscious decision to shoot at 15mm with that lens, but it gives you a whole lot of other options too.

ffabrici Senior Member • Posts: 1,353
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You can try using your zoom at the 24mm equivalent FL and evaluate the outcome.

I actually prefer 20mm over 24mm, so I have a 20mm prime, no 24mm but 28mm, 35mm etc.

The challenge is to include an interesting foreground, middleground and background no matter the focal length.

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