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Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 25,627
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

bmninada wrote:

I have decided to go for DPP (Free) and it gives me best integration with my Canon R6 M2. And it fulfills 75% of my photos. Then I am also looking into time it takes. For that, I opted for in-camera initiated neural processing engine offered now by Canon executed in the cloud. This engine even handles Dual Pixel, HDR PQ, etc. something very few S/W supports today.

That's $5/month and it takes care of everything like noise, sharpening, exposure, color correction, gamma, DLO, etc. That takes care of the remaining 25% with very, very few remaining requiring further touch-ups. For that darktable (free) is good enough.

Are you currently limited to 80 files a month?

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Canon_Guy
Canon_Guy Senior Member • Posts: 1,486
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

John Photo wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

I've been using DxO Photo Lab forever, and love it. However it currently doesn't support the Canon R6 Mark II. This support is coming in January. Canon DPP is a very clunky stop gap in my estimations and use. I've downloaded Capture One trial to tide me over until the support is available in DxO Photo Lab.

I find anything Adobe way over priced for my needs, and there are much better and cheaper options out there. DPP is one of them, no frills RAW processing.

I wonder how the current Adobe Photography Plan which costs the price of literally two coffees monthly can seem overpriced to someone who is able to spend thousands of dollars for the photo gear .

In the same way a $100 chicken egg is overpriced, even though you have $10,000 in kitchen equipment.

My point is a bit different.

If someone is wealthy enough so that he can seamlessly afford to spend thousands of dollars just for totally non-essential stuff then such a person really does not care in general if he spends 10 more or 10 less bucks monthly. What would you say?

Does such a person look to his/her regular monthly expenses for grocery, drugstore, clothing, eating out, petrol, cultural events etc. in order to save 10 bucks in total per month? Does such a person tell to his/her friends "Sorry, I am not joining you for a coffee because I already bought 12 of them this month and another one is too expensive for me"? I do not think so .

I bet each of us spends much more than a "stupid 10 USD" montly on totally useless or wastefull things which we even do not realize. And we do not care. But then we should shout that 10 USD for fantastic SW packed with tons of useful features which helps us to get better photos and therefore we do enjoy our hobby is suddenly tooo muuuch ? Weird, isn't it.

Going back to you example: 100 USD for jus an egg would be wayyy too expensive and nonsensical. It is the same egg we regularily buy for couple of cents. 10 USD monthly for such a tremendously powerfull set of tools ACR, LR and PS is insanely cheap. The value which you get per dollar is the point.

The plan includes allways the most up-to-date versions of fully featured unlimited Lightroom and Photoshop (including Camera Raw) as well as Lightroom for mobiles and tablets.

To me the price/performance ratio is insanely favourable.

I'm looking forward to upgrading to Photo Lab 6 when the R6 Mark II support is available.

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Canon_Guy
Canon_Guy Senior Member • Posts: 1,486
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

SurettePhotography wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

I've been using DxO Photo Lab forever, and love it. However it currently doesn't support the Canon R6 Mark II. This support is coming in January. Canon DPP is a very clunky stop gap in my estimations and use. I've downloaded Capture One trial to tide me over until the support is available in DxO Photo Lab.

I find anything Adobe way over priced for my needs, and there are much better and cheaper options out there. DPP is one of them, no frills RAW processing.

I wonder how the current Adobe Photography Plan which costs the price of literally two coffees monthly can seem overpriced to someone who is able to spend thousands of dollars for the photo gear .

The plan includes allways the most up-to-date versions of fully featured unlimited Lightroom and Photoshop (including Camera Raw) as well as Lightroom for mobiles and tablets.

To me the price/performance ratio is insanely favourable.

I'm looking forward to upgrading to Photo Lab 6 when the R6 Mark II support is available.

Adobe will keep costing you each and every month you use it, hardly two cups of coffee. Lightroom is $12.99 CAD per month ($155.88 per year), PhotoShop and Lightroom ($25.99 CAD per month or $311.88 per year)

Your prices are WAY off.

DxO upgrade is $99 and I can use it on two of my Mac's. DxO you don't have to upgrade, but Adobe will keep charging you each and every month. That's a lot of coffee.

DxO is a much better investment, in my opinion, for my workflow. Your milage will vary.

CAD = Canadian dollars.

Your prices include 1TB cloud storage as was already mentioned above. If you leave that out, you get the two coffees price of 10 USD or 13 CAD .

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Kameratrollet Senior Member • Posts: 1,099
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

bmninada wrote:

I took a whirl. LR -> trial. Capture One -> trial.

My monitor's pretty good calibrated using Spyder, etc. BENQ professional with 100% Adobe RGB, etc.

Anyways what I found is DPP JPEGs are seriously good comparing to LR and Capture One. I did what I thought is best in DPP. Then did that using LR and finally with Capture One.

As 1 post suggested - next I tried the RAW in DPP and using which applied the lens corrections, exported as TIFF and then tried using LR and Capture One. Final images again as JPEGs. Its here I found JPEGs generated by Capture One to be slightly better but its nothing to write home about.

The thing that concerns me in de-noise and sharpening since I have a bunch of stuff in low light. No matter what I did LR - did best, then DPP and finally Capture One. Surprisingly, Capture One was worst when it came to de-noise and sharpening.

1 big surprise though: "Astro denoise" in darktable was excellent. Better than LR and denoise (profiled) in darktable was really good. So, this time around I did everything in DPP -> stored as TIFF and then applied denoise + sharpening using darktable. Boom: perfect!

Finally I had some photos shot using RAW Dual Pixel and some using HDR PQ. Those photos DPP came out miles ahead than Capture One or LR. I don't remember which one but one of them failed to load too!

The only reason I feel DPP is bad is because its sloooowwwwww. LOL.

My experience is the opposite about astro denoise and denoise (profiled). Would you like to upload a raw sample + xmp with your astro denoise settings?

Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 25,627
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

Canon_Guy wrote:

John Photo wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

I've been using DxO Photo Lab forever, and love it. However it currently doesn't support the Canon R6 Mark II. This support is coming in January. Canon DPP is a very clunky stop gap in my estimations and use. I've downloaded Capture One trial to tide me over until the support is available in DxO Photo Lab.

I find anything Adobe way over priced for my needs, and there are much better and cheaper options out there. DPP is one of them, no frills RAW processing.

I wonder how the current Adobe Photography Plan which costs the price of literally two coffees monthly can seem overpriced to someone who is able to spend thousands of dollars for the photo gear .

In the same way a $100 chicken egg is overpriced, even though you have $10,000 in kitchen equipment.

My point is a bit different.

If someone is wealthy enough so that he can seamlessly afford to spend thousands of dollars just for totally non-essential stuff then such a person really does not care in general if he spends 10 more or 10 less bucks monthly. What would you say?

Does such a person look to his/her regular monthly expenses for grocery, drugstore, clothing, eating out, petrol, cultural events etc. in order to save 10 bucks in total per month? Does such a person tell to his/her friends "Sorry, I am not joining you for a coffee because I already bought 12 of them this month and another one is too expensive for me"? I do not think so .

I bet each of us spends much more than a "stupid 10 USD" montly on totally useless or wastefull things which we even do not realize. And we do not care. But then we should shout that 10 USD for fantastic SW packed with tons of useful features which helps us to get better photos and therefore we do enjoy our hobby is suddenly tooo muuuch ? Weird, isn't it.

Easily.

Going back to you example: 100 USD for jus an egg would be wayyy too expensive and nonsensical. It is the same egg we regularily buy for couple of cents. 10 USD monthly for such a tremendously powerfull set of tools ACR, LR and PS is insanely cheap. The value which you get per dollar is the point.

The plan includes allways the most up-to-date versions of fully featured unlimited Lightroom and Photoshop (including Camera Raw) as well as Lightroom for mobiles and tablets.

To me the price/performance ratio is insanely favourable.

I'm looking forward to upgrading to Photo Lab 6 when the R6 Mark II support is available.

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OP bmninada Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

Zeee wrote:

Are you currently limited to 80 files a month?

Yes

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OP bmninada Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

Kameratrollet wrote:

My experience is the opposite about astro denoise and denoise (profiled). Would you like to upload a raw sample + xmp with your astro denoise settings?

Hello - you're right. In all the series of comparisons I made a mistake. The DT post processing de-noise happened great but photo colors and sharpness got severely affected. My mistake.... ignore: please.

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SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
Re: Post processing of shots taken with EOS R6 M2

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

I've been using DxO Photo Lab forever, and love it. However it currently doesn't support the Canon R6 Mark II. This support is coming in January. Canon DPP is a very clunky stop gap in my estimations and use. I've downloaded Capture One trial to tide me over until the support is available in DxO Photo Lab.

I find anything Adobe way over priced for my needs, and there are much better and cheaper options out there. DPP is one of them, no frills RAW processing.

I wonder how the current Adobe Photography Plan which costs the price of literally two coffees monthly can seem overpriced to someone who is able to spend thousands of dollars for the photo gear .

The plan includes allways the most up-to-date versions of fully featured unlimited Lightroom and Photoshop (including Camera Raw) as well as Lightroom for mobiles and tablets.

To me the price/performance ratio is insanely favourable.

I'm looking forward to upgrading to Photo Lab 6 when the R6 Mark II support is available.

Adobe will keep costing you each and every month you use it, hardly two cups of coffee. Lightroom is $12.99 CAD per month ($155.88 per year), PhotoShop and Lightroom ($25.99 CAD per month or $311.88 per year)

Your prices are WAY off.

DxO upgrade is $99 and I can use it on two of my Mac's. DxO you don't have to upgrade, but Adobe will keep charging you each and every month. That's a lot of coffee.

DxO is a much better investment, in my opinion, for my workflow. Your milage will vary.

CAD = Canadian dollars.

Your prices include 1TB cloud storage as was already mentioned above. If you leave that out, you get the two coffees price of 10 USD or 13 CAD .

I will admit $12.99 CAD / month for Lightroom and Photoshop is tempting.

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