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R10 cheap battery door.

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Photato
OP Photato Veteran Member • Posts: 3,152
Re: Requires body disassembling.

Distinctly Average wrote:

Photato wrote:

cnyphotoguy wrote:

Photato wrote:

Since you don't own a R10, here are two shots I took of the R10 battery hinge.
If you can figure this out, I'll give you $100 Deal ?

From those shots, looks like the same procedure as a 40D Canon EOS 40D Battery Door Replacement - iFixit Repair Guide

Unfortunately, not.

If you take a closer look at the 40D body hinge it has a gap in one end that allows you to snap-insert one door pin. This is a good design Canon could have used in the R10. I looked for it, but these not the same.

I suppose Canon do this deliberately, as in other aspects, to push professionals towards the higher end models, a standard marketing practice, but not as an honest cost cutting measure or bad design.

It is what it is.
The R10 battery door is hard to replace or remove, only for repairs, period.

Hard to tell without one in my hand. Looks like slots rather than just holes for the hinge pins. I would guess pushing the switch down and twisting the door may do the trick but would need one in hand to be sure. I’ve dismantled quite a few cameras in my time so for me it is probably less of a challenge than for many.

Trust me. It is the simplest pin and hole system. Unibody, plastic door-pins.

To remove or insert the door, the R10 bottom plate and the glued-in rubberized surface has to be removed thus opening one of the pin holes.

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M Tracy Junior Member • Posts: 46
Re: R10 cheap battery door.
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RDM5546 wrote:

I don't know about the R10 but I bought a spare battery door from China for the R5 on Ebay for $30. You must take this door off when using the optional camera grip and I was concerned that the camera would be out of business when taking the grip on and off if I lost the original door. I do not know if it will fit on the R10 not. I have not tried the door on my R7.

did you know they have a spot for the door you take off the R5 to snap onto the battery grip. It's on the part of the grip that goes into the battery compartment in the camera. Makes it a lot harder to lose.

RDM5546
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Re: R10 cheap battery door.

M Tracy wrote:

RDM5546 wrote:

did you know they have a spot for the door you take off the R5 to snap onto the battery grip. It's on the part of the grip that goes into the battery compartment in the camera. Makes it a lot harder to lose.

No. I did not know that. Where in the battery compartments does it go? Does it attach to the battery holder?

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RDM5546
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Re: R10 cheap battery door.

RDM5546 wrote:

M Tracy wrote:

RDM5546 wrote:

did you know they have a spot for the door you take off the R5 to snap onto the battery grip. It's on the part of the grip that goes into the battery compartment in the camera. Makes it a lot harder to lose.

No. I did not know that. Where in the battery compartments does it go? Does it attach to the battery holder?

Wow! You right. Thanks for telling me! I put my door in a plastic bag but this is much better. I did even buy from EBAY a spare door because I was afraid I would otherwise lose it.

I just now put my R5 door on the proper side of the part that goes into the battery compartment.  It clicks in there nicely.   There is even a little graphic etched in that part of the grip's plastic showing where to door goes!

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
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Maybe I’m missing something obvious but it seems like it would be unlikely to break the door in typical use.  I’ve used the R10 quite a bit and the battery door doesn’t feel flimsy to me.  It’s not like you’re going to be using the camera with the door open so the only risk seems to be when you are inserting or removing the battery and for those operations it seems like you’d have to try to break it.  I don’t think it’s something I’d worry about personally.  I haven’t heard any reports of it breaking so far.  I can’t really think of any reason to make the door detachable if a battery grip isn’t going to be available.  It seems like having the door detachable could be a liability as you might accidentally detach it and lose it.  Since there isn’t a planned battery grip for the R10, why make the battery door more complicated than it needs to be?

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Photato
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Re: R10 cheap battery door.

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Maybe I’m missing something obvious but it seems like it would be unlikely to break the door in typical use. I’ve used the R10 quite a bit and the battery door doesn’t feel flimsy to me. It’s not like you’re going to be using the camera with the door open so the only risk seems to be when you are inserting or removing the battery and for those operations it seems like you’d have to try to break it. I don’t think it’s something I’d worry about personally. I haven’t heard any reports of it breaking so far. I can’t really think of any reason to make the door detachable if a battery grip isn’t going to be available. It seems like having the door detachable could be a liability as you might accidentally detach it and lose it. Since there isn’t a planned battery grip for the R10, why make the battery door more complicated than it needs to be?

I'm not going into an endless debate on how likely the battery door is to break.
Any moving part has a finite life, by wear and tear or accident, and Cameras are not the exception. IMO, this is the most breakable part of many cameras.

Obviously, Canon designed the R10 door deliberately, not to be removable, perhaps to discourage its use by professionals with third party battery grips. That is fine, I understand.
But in doing so, made it unnecessarily hard to repair.
Otherwise they would have designed the hinge like the 40D, a very simple part as well which only difference is a tiny gap in the body hinge to easily remove the door when needed.

In a very detailed camera specification sheet, there would be a row containing "Removable Battery Door" and for the R10 is No.

This is not good for repairability, no matter how some like to spin it.
Is it a big deal? Perhaps not, until it breaks.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
Re: R10 cheap battery door.

Photato wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something obvious but it seems like it would be unlikely to break the door in typical use. I’ve used the R10 quite a bit and the battery door doesn’t feel flimsy to me. It’s not like you’re going to be using the camera with the door open so the only risk seems to be when you are inserting or removing the battery and for those operations it seems like you’d have to try to break it. I don’t think it’s something I’d worry about personally. I haven’t heard any reports of it breaking so far. I can’t really think of any reason to make the door detachable if a battery grip isn’t going to be available. It seems like having the door detachable could be a liability as you might accidentally detach it and lose it. Since there isn’t a planned battery grip for the R10, why make the battery door more complicated than it needs to be?

I'm not going into an endless debate on how likely the battery door is to break.
Any moving part has a finite life, by wear and tear or accident, and Cameras are not the exception. IMO, this is the most breakable part of many cameras.

Obviously, Canon designed the R10 door deliberately, not to be removable, perhaps to discourage its use by professionals with third party battery grips. That is fine, I understand.
But in doing so, made it unnecessarily hard to repair.
Otherwise they would have designed the hinge like the 40D, a very simple part as well which only difference is a tiny gap in the body hinge to easily remove the door when needed.

In a very detailed camera specification sheet, there would be a row containing "Removable Battery Door" and for the R10 is No.

This is not good for repairability, no matter how some like to spin it.
Is it a big deal? Perhaps not, until it breaks.

I kind of have the impression that cameras in this price range are more or less considered disposable and ease of repair isn’t really a priority.  This whole discussion seems to be a bit of a tempest in a teapot.

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Photato
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Re: R10 cheap battery door.

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Photato wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something obvious but it seems like it would be unlikely to break the door in typical use. I’ve used the R10 quite a bit and the battery door doesn’t feel flimsy to me. It’s not like you’re going to be using the camera with the door open so the only risk seems to be when you are inserting or removing the battery and for those operations it seems like you’d have to try to break it. I don’t think it’s something I’d worry about personally. I haven’t heard any reports of it breaking so far. I can’t really think of any reason to make the door detachable if a battery grip isn’t going to be available. It seems like having the door detachable could be a liability as you might accidentally detach it and lose it. Since there isn’t a planned battery grip for the R10, why make the battery door more complicated than it needs to be?

I'm not going into an endless debate on how likely the battery door is to break.
Any moving part has a finite life, by wear and tear or accident, and Cameras are not the exception. IMO, this is the most breakable part of many cameras.

Obviously, Canon designed the R10 door deliberately, not to be removable, perhaps to discourage its use by professionals with third party battery grips. That is fine, I understand.
But in doing so, made it unnecessarily hard to repair.
Otherwise they would have designed the hinge like the 40D, a very simple part as well which only difference is a tiny gap in the body hinge to easily remove the door when needed.

In a very detailed camera specification sheet, there would be a row containing "Removable Battery Door" and for the R10 is No.

This is not good for repairability, no matter how some like to spin it.
Is it a big deal? Perhaps not, until it breaks.

I kind of have the impression that cameras in this price range are more or less considered disposable and ease of repair isn’t really a priority. This whole discussion seems to be a bit of a tempest in a teapot.

No drama, just disappointing to find out a negative aspect I did not know about the R10. That is all.
I don't consider my R10 disposable, since I'm planning to keep it for several years and when it comes to sell it I hope the second owner can enjoy it for as long as he/she wish.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
Re: R10 cheap battery door.

Photato wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Photato wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something obvious but it seems like it would be unlikely to break the door in typical use. I’ve used the R10 quite a bit and the battery door doesn’t feel flimsy to me. It’s not like you’re going to be using the camera with the door open so the only risk seems to be when you are inserting or removing the battery and for those operations it seems like you’d have to try to break it. I don’t think it’s something I’d worry about personally. I haven’t heard any reports of it breaking so far. I can’t really think of any reason to make the door detachable if a battery grip isn’t going to be available. It seems like having the door detachable could be a liability as you might accidentally detach it and lose it. Since there isn’t a planned battery grip for the R10, why make the battery door more complicated than it needs to be?

I'm not going into an endless debate on how likely the battery door is to break.
Any moving part has a finite life, by wear and tear or accident, and Cameras are not the exception. IMO, this is the most breakable part of many cameras.

Obviously, Canon designed the R10 door deliberately, not to be removable, perhaps to discourage its use by professionals with third party battery grips. That is fine, I understand.
But in doing so, made it unnecessarily hard to repair.
Otherwise they would have designed the hinge like the 40D, a very simple part as well which only difference is a tiny gap in the body hinge to easily remove the door when needed.

In a very detailed camera specification sheet, there would be a row containing "Removable Battery Door" and for the R10 is No.

This is not good for repairability, no matter how some like to spin it.
Is it a big deal? Perhaps not, until it breaks.

I kind of have the impression that cameras in this price range are more or less considered disposable and ease of repair isn’t really a priority. This whole discussion seems to be a bit of a tempest in a teapot.

No drama, just disappointing to find out a negative aspect I did not know about the R10. That is all.
I don't consider my R10 disposable, since I'm planning to keep it for several years and when it comes to sell it I hope the second owner can enjoy it for as long as he/she wish.

I’m planning on keeping my R10 for years as well, I really enjoy it.  Having said that, if it breaks I expect the repair cost to be high enough that I’ll replace it rather than repair it.  That’s typically been the case with sub $1000 cameras that I’ve owned.  If this were a 1d or R3 or similar I’d be more concerned about serviceability.

I’m generally pretty hard on cameras, mine rarely ever make it to a second owner and I’m not the slightest bit worried about the battery fore on the R10.  I seriously doubt that will be the thing to do mine in.

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