R10 cheap battery door.

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels weak because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Alternatively, can the door sensor be hacked to allow the camera turn on without the door ?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps the weakest R10 part concerning longevity, reliability.

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels poor quality simply because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Can the door sensor be hacked to let the camera turn on without the door on?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps my only R10 disappointment.

I don't know about the R10 but I bought a spare battery door from China for the R5 on Ebay for $30.  You must take this door off when using the optional camera grip and I was concerned that the camera would be out of business when taking the grip on and off if I lost the original door.   I do not know if it will fit on the R10 not.  I have not tried the door on my R7.

RDM5546 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels poor quality simply because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Can the door sensor be hacked to let the camera turn on without the door on?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps my only R10 disappointment.

I don't know about the R10 but I bought a spare battery door from China for the R5 on Ebay for $30. You must take this door off when using the optional camera grip and I was concerned that the camera would be out of business when taking the grip on and off if I lost the original door. I do not know if it will fit on the R10 not. I have not tried the door on my R7.

Unlike the R5, the R10 door can not be easily removed and I'm confident these doors are not the same part.
The R10 was not designed to have a battery grip, unfortunately.
It is an unnecessary vulnerability that this $1,000 camera can turn into a brick at the mercy of a $0.5 plastic piece of plastic.

At least, there should be an option to allow the camera be turn on without the door.

Hopefully the part will become available and easy to remove.

My M6ii became a pain to use when its internal clock battery stopped working and is not user replaceable.

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels weak because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Alternatively, can the door sensor be hacked to allow the camera turn on without the door ?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps the weakest R10 part concerning longevity, reliability.

Has anyone heard of any failures yet?

The “sensor” is a simple “depressable” momentary micro-switch that can be “hacked” with a bit of tape if needed.  It’s a good idea to keep a bit of duct type (but removable, non residue) tape with you anyway in your kit.

R2

R2D2 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels weak because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Alternatively, can the door sensor be hacked to allow the camera turn on without the door ?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps the weakest R10 part concerning longevity, reliability.

Has anyone heard of any failures yet?

Not me, but the R10 was released just 8 months ago.

The “sensor” is a simple “depressable” momentary micro-switch that can be “hacked” with a bit of tape if needed. It’s a good idea to keep a bit of duct type (but removable, non residue) tape with you anyway in your kit.

R2

I briefly tried to find it and inserted a paper clip where it looks like the switch would be located but didn't work.
Hopefully someone, someday make a tutorial video about replacing the door and hacking the switch.

Photato wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels weak because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Alternatively, can the door sensor be hacked to allow the camera turn on without the door ?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps the weakest R10 part concerning longevity, reliability.

Has anyone heard of any failures yet?

Not me, but the R10 was released just 8 months ago.

A plastic milk jug feels cheap (and is actually).  Have you ever tried to tear one open though?  

Like anything else in the camera bag, I’d keep a possible failure in mind (esp during a critical shoot), but otherwise I wouldn’t be overly worried about it.

The “sensor” is a simple “depressable” momentary micro-switch that can be “hacked” with a bit of tape if needed. It’s a good idea to keep a bit of duct type (but removable, non residue) tape with you anyway in your kit.

R2

I briefly tried to find it and inserted a paper clip where it looks like the switch would be located but didn't work.
Hopefully someone, someday make a tutorial video about replacing the door and hacking the switch.

Roll up a small wad of tape.  Stuff it in there, and secure it with another piece of tape.  Voila!

R2

Photato wrote:

RDM5546 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels poor quality simply because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Can the door sensor be hacked to let the camera turn on without the door on?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps my only R10 disappointment.

I don't know about the R10 but I bought a spare battery door from China for the R5 on Ebay for $30. You must take this door off when using the optional camera grip and I was concerned that the camera would be out of business when taking the grip on and off if I lost the original door. I do not know if it will fit on the R10 not. I have not tried the door on my R7.

Unlike the R5, the R10 door can not be easily removed and I'm confident these doors are not the same part.
The R10 was not designed to have a battery grip, unfortunately.
It is an unnecessary vulnerability that this $1,000 camera can turn into a brick at the mercy of a $0.5 plastic piece of plastic.

At least, there should be an option to allow the camera be turn on without the door.

Hopefully the part will become available and easy to remove.

My M6ii became a pain to use when its internal clock battery stopped working and is not user replaceable.

You will need to send the R10 to Canon service to fix these things. However, if you need it may make sense.

They are very good and very quick in my experience.  They have been much quicker, and better in my experience with other camera makers.  It is one reason all my expensive cameras now are Canon.

Distinctly Average wrote:

RDM5546 wrote:

Photato wrote:

RDM5546 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels poor quality simply because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Can the door sensor be hacked to let the camera turn on without the door on?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps my only R10 disappointment.

I don't know about the R10 but I bought a spare battery door from China for the R5 on Ebay for $30. You must take this door off when using the optional camera grip and I was concerned that the camera would be out of business when taking the grip on and off if I lost the original door. I do not know if it will fit on the R10 not. I have not tried the door on my R7.

Unlike the R5, the R10 door can not be easily removed and I'm confident these doors are not the same part.
The R10 was not designed to have a battery grip, unfortunately.
It is an unnecessary vulnerability that this $1,000 camera can turn into a brick at the mercy of a $0.5 plastic piece of plastic.

At least, there should be an option to allow the camera be turn on without the door.

Hopefully the part will become available and easy to remove.

My M6ii became a pain to use when its internal clock battery stopped working and is not user replaceable.

You will need to send the R10 to Canon service to fix these things. However, if you need it may make sense.

They are very good and very quick in my experience. They have been much quicker, and better in my experience with other camera makers. It is one reason all my expensive cameras now are Canon.

They are easy to replace and can be purchased online - https://www.ebay.com/itm/155132746474

Thank you  DA !
Glad to know it exist and can be done. It didn't occur to me to search it online. Sight!
Will order one as a backup but they don't show instructions.
Is probably easy but I don't want to risk breaking the hinge, etc
Another Canon camera would probably have the same R10 door design for which instructions exist, even on video.

R2D2 wrote:

Photato wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

Photato wrote:

Is it me or the R10 battery door feels really cheap, like it could break at any moment ?
Or perhaps it feels weak because is not spring loaded, or mine have that spring missing ?
In my 15 years owning different digital cameras, this has to be the lowest quality battery door I've had.

What will happen when it finally breaks ?
The lousy switch looks like a point of failure.

The issue is, this camera won't turn on without the door shut, even when the battery is properly inserted.
Does Canon sells it as a part and can it be replaced by users ?
Alternatively, can the door sensor be hacked to allow the camera turn on without the door ?

I ask because I'm surprised this doesn't get mentioned, this is perhaps the weakest R10 part concerning longevity, reliability.

Has anyone heard of any failures yet?

Not me, but the R10 was released just 8 months ago.

A plastic milk jug feels cheap (and is actually). Have you ever tried to tear one open though?

Agree, this is why I said "feel" and wanted to hear from other R10 users. But still, it really feels flimsy compared to any other camera I had.
A milk jug is a disposable use-once thing, a camera battery door is supposed to last years. I bet you the milk jug cap threads break down within a year.

I could treat the R10 as a Smartphone and never oven that door, charging in-camera but to get the SD card I need to open it frequently.

Like anything else in the camera bag, I’d keep a possible failure in mind (esp during a critical shoot), but otherwise I wouldn’t be overly worried about it.

The part is available online for a reasonable price, so I'd probably buy it as a backup.

The “sensor” is a simple “depressable” momentary micro-switch that can be “hacked” with a bit of tape if needed. It’s a good idea to keep a bit of duct type (but removable, non residue) tape with you anyway in your kit.

R2

I briefly tried to find it and inserted a paper clip where it looks like the switch would be located but didn't work.
Hopefully someone, someday make a tutorial video about replacing the door and hacking the switch.

Roll up a small wad of tape. Stuff it in there, and secure it with another piece of tape. Voila!

R2

Will use this hack when using the R10 DC coupler with the cage. Thanks

Sad to find out the R10 battery door can't be easily replaced.
While 1 eBay vendor sells the OEM part, to install it, it requires the removal of the frontal/bottom plate plus the rubber cover. Good luck gluing that back in place like it originally was.

This really sucks since there are other cameras with battery door designs which are easy to remove, or easier to replace when it breaks.

Distinctly Average wrote:

Photato wrote:

Sad to find out the R10 battery door can't be easily replaced.
While 1 eBay vendor sells the OEM part, to install it, it requires the removal of the frontal/bottom plate plus the rubber cover. Good luck gluing that back in place like it originally was.

This really sucks since there are other cameras with battery door designs which are easy to remove, or easier to replace when it breaks.

The problem be on the R7 has a simple sliding clip

Another detail in favor of the R7.

I'm sure Canon did this deliberately, because is not really about cutting costs.
What would be the reasoning ?!
The 40D of years gone by has a very simple door hinge like the R10, but it could easily be removed by the user when placed on an certain angle to snap it out.

Distinctly Average wrote:

Photato wrote:

Sad to find out the R10 battery door can't be easily replaced.
While 1 eBay vendor sells the OEM part, to install it, it requires the removal of the frontal/bottom plate plus the rubber cover. Good luck gluing that back in place like it originally was.

This really sucks since there are other cameras with battery door designs which are easy to remove, or easier to replace when it breaks.

Where did you find out that the door was hard to replace?

I don’t own an R10, so checked online first. It looked easy and even Walmart sell the door. Then I saw this post suggesting it is complicated. So I asked an R10 owning friend to take a look at his and he said it looks very easy to take off.

Walmart - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Canon-Battery-Door-Cover-LID-for-EOS-R10-Mirrorless-Camera-CG2-7393-Part-USA-NEW/1462704033

Your door hasn’t broken, nor has anyone complained about it on here yet. Hopefully we don’t see any.

Where did I find out?

By myself, but for confirmation I asked my brother who is a mechanical engineer and works for Jabil , fixing all kinds electronic and mechanical issues. He has fixed my two crashed drones before, so I trust him.
He took a look at the hinge mechanism under the microscope and couldn't figure out how to replace the battery door without disassembling the body.
Confirming my suspicions.
But many R10 owners without that level of expertise would tell you the same thing after taking a close look at the door hinge mechanism.

Sure, my R10 battery door might not be broken now but it could in the future. If I knew this before buying the R10, it might have changed my decision. The R7 has a user replaceable door.
I don't know about you, but when I buy costly items, user reparability is an important factor to me and to many others planning to keep these devices long term, if desired.
Battery doors do break, just search Youtube to see hundreds of videos on the subject or the availability of these parts as evidence.

Since you don't own a R10, here are two shots I took of the R10 battery hinge.
If you can figure this out, I'll give you $100 Deal ?

Kmccarthy wrote:

I agree the door is flimsy, and should be easier to replace. Having said that, I’ve had over a dozen canon cameras and have never broken a door. Now that the R10 supports USB charging, I rarely open the door anyway… I’m not going to worry about it…

I came to realize that the flimsy impression is subjective, probably because the door is not spring loaded. So in that regard it could be as fragile as many other battery doors.

But, I use the door often, to get the SD card in and out and to swap batteries on the go.
Almost always I charge with the external charger to lower the charging temperature and is the only way to charge a couple of 3rd party batteries.

The bottom line is that this door is not user removable like other Canon cameras.
You need to do some body disassembling to remove it, that is, for repair only.
This is something potential buyers need to be aware of, that is all.

Photato wrote:

Since you don't own a R10, here are two shots I took of the R10 battery hinge.
If you can figure this out, I'll give you $100 Deal ?

From those shots, looks like the same procedure as a 40D Canon EOS 40D Battery Door Replacement - iFixit Repair Guide

cnyphotoguy wrote:

Photato wrote:

Since you don't own a R10, here are two shots I took of the R10 battery hinge.
If you can figure this out, I'll give you $100 Deal ?

From those shots, looks like the same procedure as a 40D Canon EOS 40D Battery Door Replacement - iFixit Repair Guide

Unfortunately, not.

If you take a closer look at the 40D body hinge it has a gap in one end that allows you to snap-insert one door pin. This is a good design Canon could have used in the R10. I looked for it, but these are not the same.

I suppose Canon do this deliberately, as in other aspects, to push professionals towards the higher end models, a standard marketing practice, but not as an honest cost cutting measure or bad design.

It is what it is.
The R10 battery door is hard to replace or remove, only for repairs, done preferable by service professionals, period.