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R5/R6 Metering

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Basil Fawlty
OP Basil Fawlty Regular Member • Posts: 237
Re: R5/R6 Metering

Canon_Guy wrote:

Basil Fawlty wrote:

If I could ask Canon to make one change to the R5/R6 or other R series cameras, it would be to enable a feature that would allow the camera to meter the scene based on where you have the focus point aimed.

But it works exactly like this now. See my examples. Both shot at Av, Evaluative metering mode, Spot AF point. No settings changed between the two shots. First image is focused on dark trees in the bottom half of the image. Second shot focused on bright clouds.

I believe how metering works, is say you have spot metering or evaluative metering set - the light for the shot is metered from roughly the center of the scene. But what if your focus point is somewhere to the left or right and the lighting in that part of the scene is much different?

It would be nice to have a feature (selectable) that would allow you to have the metering based on wherever you have the focus point aimed. I would think this could be accomplished with a firmware update?

Do you have a "wish" for future firmware upgrades?

My apologies, I think I misstated the problem.  I said originally the issue was with spot metering and/ or evaluative metering. The issue (not really an issue) is that if you are in SPOT METERING mode (not evaluative), then, if you move the focus point, the metering (spot metering) will not follow the focus point but with stay in the center.   Try your experiment while in Spot Metering and see if you still get different results.  I just tried it in the house and shot with Spot metering and single point focus and first put the focus point on a bright part of the room, then took a second shot with the focus point on a very dark part of the room.  The exposure was virtually the same in both cases.

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apersson850 Senior Member • Posts: 2,076
Re: R5/R6 Metering

We know that. Spot metering is always in the center with these cameras. But the general idea with spot metering here is that you meter the important point, lock exposure, then re-compose as needed to take the picture.

And yes, it's true that the mirrorless do have settings that are similar to single point AF in a DSLR camera. But it's more of a fallback for diehards than the main focusing mode for the mirrorless ones.

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Basil Fawlty
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Re: R5/R6 Metering
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apersson850 wrote:

We know that. Spot metering is always in the center with these cameras. But the general idea with spot metering here is that you meter the important point, lock exposure, then re-compose as needed to take the picture.

And yes, it's true that the mirrorless do have settings that are similar to single point AF in a DSLR camera. But it's more of a fallback for diehards than the main focusing mode for the mirrorless ones.

It's not "always" in the center - that's not how it works on the flagship 1-series.  Even Rudy Winston (Canon senior tech advisor) says he wishes the spot metering on the R5 could move with the focus point and has mentioned it to their development team, and he said he isn't sure why they don't do it.

My only point was that it's something that I'd personally like to see implemented on the R5, even if it's an option you can turn off and on.  Yes, you can focus/meter and recompose, but the whole beauty of having a full screen full of focus points is so you don't have to do that.  It's simply a personal preference I would like to see.  I get it that it's not something everyone cares about, that's fine.

I also then to ask there is anything others would like to see implemented in the R5.

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mymuk New Member • Posts: 5
Re: R5/R6 Metering

Until they provide it I'll just use the fact I'm seeing through the sensor and roll the exposure compensation down until it looks how I want it.

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jonby Regular Member • Posts: 399
Re: R5/R6 Metering

Spot metering tied to the centre might work ok when handholding, but it's useless when the camera's on a tripod. Beats me why Canon still reserve these kinds of software features just for the 1-series cameras. People buy those cameras for the hardware. Nobody's going to stump up another five grand just for a movable spot meter.

Basil Fawlty
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Re: R5/R6 Metering

jonby wrote:

Spot metering tied to the centre might work ok when handholding, but it's useless when the camera's on a tripod. Beats me why Canon still reserve these kinds of software features just for the 1-series cameras. People buy those cameras for the hardware. Nobody's going to stump up another five grand just for a movable spot meter.

I’m sure it would be a relatively easy thing to implement.  And functionally it just makes so much sense.  Well, at least it works the logical way in other modes like evaluative.

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apersson850 Senior Member • Posts: 2,076
Re: R5/R6 Metering

Basil Fawlty wrote:

apersson850 wrote:

Spot metering is always in the center with these cameras.

It's not "always" in the center - that's not how it works on the flagship 1-series.

I referred to the cameras in the headline, R5 and R6.

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Basil Fawlty
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Re: R5/R6 Metering

apersson850 wrote:

Basil Fawlty wrote:

apersson850 wrote:

Spot metering is always in the center with these cameras.

It's not "always" in the center - that's not how it works on the flagship 1-series.

I referred to the cameras in the headline, R5 and R6.

Got ya.

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