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Canon R6 Mk II vs R5?

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kentmcpherson Regular Member • Posts: 157
Canon R6 Mk II vs R5?

I am making the switch to mirrorless.  I have been a Canon shooter for a long time. I have been very impressed with the articles and reviews on the new R6 Mk II. It seems its only drawback is the lower 24MP sensor. I want to make the right purchase to last several years so I looked at the R5 too. It is older and doesn’t have a few of the few features the new R6 does but it does have a 45MP sensor. Its biggest drawback is the price tag which is $1200 more than the R6 Mk II. Does anyone have any thoughts or direct experience with these 2 bodies? Thanks!!

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OP kentmcpherson Regular Member • Posts: 157
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I should add I do portrait work, sporting events of my grandkids, and bird photography.

Igor Sotelo Contributing Member • Posts: 923
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My logic is that top quality lenses can do well on 45-60MP full frame sensors. Perhaps lesser quality lenses would show some limitations, where a body with 24MP or less could be less forgiving.

Another consideration is cropping, that may be important for birds photography.

With the improvements in CPU power, it seems newer cameras have no problem achieving very high frame rates on +45MP sensors, though not sure about processing later a large amount of huge pics on the laptop.

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Unless you crop for reach a lot or make really huge prints (A1 and bigger) regularily R6Mk2 is better camera.

R5 is not more expensive by its body price only but also on memory cards and approx double size of the storage space needed in computer.

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Steve_tEkGuY Contributing Member • Posts: 599
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kentmcpherson wrote:

I am making the switch to mirrorless. I have been a Canon shooter for a long time. I have been very impressed with the articles and reviews on the new R6 Mk II. It seems its only drawback is the lower 24MP sensor. I want to make the right purchase to last several years so I looked at the R5 too. It is older and doesn’t have a few of the few features the new R6 does but it does have a 45MP sensor. Its biggest drawback is the price tag which is $1200 more than the R6 Mk II. Does anyone have any thoughts or direct experience with these 2 bodies? Thanks!!

I purchased both recently and for the last month I picked up the R5 instead of the R6Mk2. On my outings the R6 just sits in the back pack.

I do use the R6 when going out with the family where I takes photos and videos and I find the buttons and dials work faster compared to the R5 mode dial. I also like the human subject hold option in video so the focus doesn't shift or drift which is not available on the R5.

So for photos R5 - for video or hybrid perhaps the R6 Mk2 is better.

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expro Senior Member • Posts: 2,274
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I think you have to decide whether you want the higher mp look to your shots? If you like the higher mp then obviously R5 is best for you.

whwn I had 5dsr 50mp and 1dxii 20mp, they looked different, not necessarily one better. But the 1dxii was so much better at everything else that it became a no brainer to stick to the 1dxii as primary body.

many more people though now prefer more mp.

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gipper51 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,904
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kentmcpherson wrote:

I am making the switch to mirrorless. I have been a Canon shooter for a long time. I have been very impressed with the articles and reviews on the new R6 Mk II. It seems its only drawback is the lower 24MP sensor. I want to make the right purchase to last several years so I looked at the R5 too. It is older and doesn’t have a few of the few features the new R6 does but it does have a 45MP sensor. Its biggest drawback is the price tag which is $1200 more than the R6 Mk II. Does anyone have any thoughts or direct experience with these 2 bodies? Thanks!!

I wouldn't let the 24MP detract you. This not a low resolution camera, but rather 45MP+ is an extremely high resolution. We tend to "get used" to the numbers and forget that fact. Even most of the folks on these forums who want 100MP seem to be birders that want it so they can crop the $h!t out of their photos down to 20MP (ish) for final output. If cropping a lot for wildlife photography is important to you, then the R5 may be your choice.

20-24MP is more than enough for most applications, it's just how you get there. Do you plan to make prints over 30" wide on a regular basis and scrutinize them from nose length away? If not, 24MP is plenty. I've made many 12x18 prints over the years from 6MP cameras that nobody has ever complained they lacked detail.

All the megapixels in the world don't really matter unless you use them in some meaningful output. Pixel peeping on a screen can be fun but that rabbit hole has no bottom. I can 'peep a 500MP image all day, but it's doing nothing other than using a computer screen as a microscope.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of applications that can use more than 24MP for final output. But to me, if you have to ask the question you're not in that category. Landscape, fine art and high end commercial photography are the typical uses. And again, it only matters if a large print is your end goal.

The R6II is a fantastic camera. I've had one a few weeks, so it's still early days. But overall, I'm finding it to be just excellent for anything I point it at. The AF is everything they say it is, and the image quality is sublime. It's certainly going to be my most used camera going forward.

Oh, with everything I said above, I should note that I have a 50MP FF camera also.  And 16MP cameras with smaller sensors.  They all get heavy use.  Pics from any of them have yet to fail because of too few MP.

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nonproshooterdad Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
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R5 for birds.

OP kentmcpherson Regular Member • Posts: 157
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So I went with the R5 mostly for the ability to crop into a photo and still have good detail. I also got the RF 100-500mm L lens for birding and sports events. So far, very happy with the choice!

Ran Plett Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
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Have you considered a teleconvertor to get a little closer? What would that be, 700mm @ f9 plus cropping sounds really nice.

I really love shooting with my 100-400mm II L and 1.4x III teleconvertor. It knocked my socks off when I first tried it.

OP kentmcpherson Regular Member • Posts: 157
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Yes I have and will someday but the teleconverter is $499 so it’s nothing to sneeze at.

Ran Plett Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
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kentmcpherson wrote:

Yes I have and will someday but the teleconverter is $499 so it’s nothing to sneeze at.

I gotta say, spending an extra $1200 for a somewhat older camera just for the sake of cropping suggests that the $500 teleconvertor would be just a hair less helpful (1.4 vs. 1.6, roughly), but the $500 teleconvertor is more likely to retain its resale value, and be a lot more useful if you were to upgrade your camera down the road.

For example, all things being equal, if you tripod mounted an R5 (in crop mode) and R6 II (coupled with a 1.4x extender), you’d find the results quite comparable. So it would seem like the $500 option is a much better value.

OTOH, you have both options now, so for an additional $500, you can effectively shoot at 1120mm. Of course you may see some diminishing returns because the tighter photosites would give you effectively 1 stop less low light performance or heavier noise. There’s no such thing as a free lunch here.

John Sheehy Forum Pro • Posts: 26,698
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Ran Plett wrote:

OTOH, you have both options now, so for an additional $500, you can effectively shoot at 1120mm. Of course you may see some diminishing returns because the tighter photosites would give you effectively 1 stop less low light performance or heavier noise. There’s no such thing as a free lunch here.

The R5 has a little more read noise than the R6-II, but it is not as tremendous as it would seem at 100% pixel view, where the comparison is distorted by different sharpening and different magnification. The R6-II with a 1.4x will have slightly more pixels-on-subject than the R6-II (with the same shutter speed and lens, and no TC), and slightly less noise. The AOV in the viewfinder will be 41% wider, though, with the R5, making it easier to get the subject in the frame and keep it there. The advantage in low-light AF that normally favors the R6-II will decrease by a stop, too, with the 1.4x TC. Also, the rolling shutter will go through the subject about twice as fast with the R5, since it is about half the frame height.

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