M3 + nifty fifty + viltrox adapter

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

I'm still on the cameras original firmware, meaning I haven't updated it to latest yet, and impressively the viltrox works super well and is tightly sealed.

One thing with the EF 50mm STM lens is you need to turn off continuous AF, else the lens will keep protruding in and out every second (focus hunting), there's also a loud motor sound that can be heard when this action is taking place.

That's the second thing I turn off with every Canon mirrorless camera I get.  The first thing I turn off is the beeps.

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

I'm still on the cameras original firmware, meaning I haven't updated it to latest yet, and impressively the viltrox works super well and is tightly sealed.

One thing with the EF 50mm STM lens is you need to turn off continuous AF, else the lens will keep protruding in and out every second (focus hunting), there's also a loud motor sound that can be heard when this action is taking place.

That's the second thing I turn off with every Canon mirrorless camera I get. The first thing I turn off is the beeps.

With ef-m lenses was never an issue, very noticeable with EF lenses though on M3

jackwelch wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

I'm still on the cameras original firmware, meaning I haven't updated it to latest yet, and impressively the viltrox works super well and is tightly sealed.

One thing with the EF 50mm STM lens is you need to turn off continuous AF, else the lens will keep protruding in and out every second (focus hunting), there's also a loud motor sound that can be heard when this action is taking place.

That's the second thing I turn off with every Canon mirrorless camera I get. The first thing I turn off is the beeps.

With ef-m lenses was never an issue, very noticeable with EF lenses though on M3

It's only not an issue because you can't hear them focussing.

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

I'm still on the cameras original firmware, meaning I haven't updated it to latest yet, and impressively the viltrox works super well and is tightly sealed.

One thing with the EF 50mm STM lens is you need to turn off continuous AF, else the lens will keep protruding in and out every second (focus hunting), there's also a loud motor sound that can be heard when this action is taking place.

That's the second thing I turn off with every Canon mirrorless camera I get. The first thing I turn off is the beeps.

With ef-m lenses was never an issue, very noticeable with EF lenses though on M3

It's only not an issue because you can't hear them focussing.

This is where efm lenses really outperform, you don't only hear no noise but you also don't have any protruding lens in and out (focus hunting).

jackwelch wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

I'm still on the cameras original firmware, meaning I haven't updated it to latest yet, and impressively the viltrox works super well and is tightly sealed.

One thing with the EF 50mm STM lens is you need to turn off continuous AF, else the lens will keep protruding in and out every second (focus hunting), there's also a loud motor sound that can be heard when this action is taking place.

That's the second thing I turn off with every Canon mirrorless camera I get. The first thing I turn off is the beeps.

With ef-m lenses was never an issue, very noticeable with EF lenses though on M3

It's only not an issue because you can't hear them focussing.

This is where efm lenses really outperform, you don't only hear no noise but you also don't have any protruding lens in and out (focus hunting).

If you own it, take another look at your EF-M 22mm f/2.0.  That lens definitely moves in and out when focusing.  The weird thing, it will even move in and out when mounting the lens, even if your camera is turned off.  It is also quite audible.

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

Don't waste your money on the DO version of the EF 70-300mm. The smaller size looks interesting, but that is where the positives end. Weight wise, it is heavier than the both the original and Mark II versions of the standard EF 70-300mm. The biggest problem is the lens is pretty awful optically.  Both regular versions of the EF 70-300mm as well as the L version are noticeably better.  If you are already looking at the 55-250mm STM and Tamron 100-400mm, there is probably not much use for a 70-300mm right in the middle.  You could just use the 55-250mm STM and crop your 24MP to 16.7MP to get the slightly longer field of view.

nnowak wrote:

jackwelch wrote:

So I received the whole set up finally today.

This was mainly a test to see how well such a set up will work, especially the lens being a "non-efm" native lens. And yes there is some difference that are very noticeable, but overall the whole set up works very well. I'm happy to say it works well and I'm now more comfortable spending more for EF or EFS lenses in the future (for example the ef-s 55-250mm stm, ef 70-300mm do lens, tamron 100-400mm, just as an example).

Don't waste your money on the DO version of the EF 70-300mm. The smaller size looks interesting, but that is where the positives end. Weight wise, it is heavier than the both the original and Mark II versions of the standard EF 70-300mm. The biggest problem is the lens is pretty awful optically. Both regular versions of the EF 70-300mm as well as the L version are noticeably better. If you are already looking at the 55-250mm STM and Tamron 100-400mm, there is probably not much use for a 70-300mm right in the middle. You could just use the 55-250mm STM and crop your 24MP to 16.7MP to get the slightly longer field of view.

I will back the call on not getting the 70-300mm DO version, I bought one and sent it straight back, it was awful. Awful handling and image quality, did not even come close to the 55-250mm STM, which in my opinion is the best bang for buck lens you could ever buy. Add in the Larry Rexley modified 1.5x teleconverter and you have a nice lightweight decent reach lens.  I now use in on a R7 and it is excellent, but without the teleconverter which does not work so nicely with the extra MP of the R7

Cheers

Jason

nnowak wrote:

Don't waste your money on the DO version of the EF 70-300mm. The smaller size looks interesting, but that is where the positives end. Weight wise, it is heavier than the both the original and Mark II versions of the standard EF 70-300mm. The biggest problem is the lens is pretty awful optically. Both regular versions of the EF 70-300mm as well as the L version are noticeably better. If you are already looking at the 55-250mm STM and Tamron 100-400mm, there is probably not much use for a 70-300mm right in the middle. You could just use the 55-250mm STM and crop your 24MP to 16.7MP to get the slightly longer field of view.

I'm only looking at the EF 70-300mm DO IS USM because it's been heavily discounted to $430 for new.

I would never pay the original retail price of that lens.

If anyone is looking at this lens too, do check it out, you might find a stock clearance price too.

JasonS70 wrote:

Don't waste your money on the DO version of the EF 70-300mm. The smaller size looks interesting, but that is where the positives end. Weight wise, it is heavier than the both the original and Mark II versions of the standard EF 70-300mm. The biggest problem is the lens is pretty awful optically. Both regular versions of the EF 70-300mm as well as the L version are noticeably better. If you are already looking at the 55-250mm STM and Tamron 100-400mm, there is probably not much use for a 70-300mm right in the middle. You could just use the 55-250mm STM and crop your 24MP to 16.7MP to get the slightly longer field of view.

I will back the call on not getting the 70-300mm DO version, I bought one and sent it straight back, it was awful. Awful handling and image quality, did not even come close to the 55-250mm STM, which in my opinion is the best bang for buck lens you could ever buy. Add in the Larry Rexley modified 1.5x teleconverter and you have a nice lightweight decent reach lens. I now use in on a R7 and it is excellent, but without the teleconverter which does not work so nicely with the extra MP of the R7

Cheers

Jason

The 55-250mm stm is not really cheap in my country. It's about $300 for new. I figured add on a bit more and probably get the EF 70-300mm DO IS USM $430, EF 70-300 IS ii USM $500 or even the Tamron 100-400mm $610.

jackwelch wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Don't waste your money on the DO version of the EF 70-300mm. The smaller size looks interesting, but that is where the positives end. Weight wise, it is heavier than the both the original and Mark II versions of the standard EF 70-300mm. The biggest problem is the lens is pretty awful optically. Both regular versions of the EF 70-300mm as well as the L version are noticeably better. If you are already looking at the 55-250mm STM and Tamron 100-400mm, there is probably not much use for a 70-300mm right in the middle. You could just use the 55-250mm STM and crop your 24MP to 16.7MP to get the slightly longer field of view.

I'm only looking at the EF 70-300mm DO IS USM because it's been heavily discounted to $430 for new.

I would never pay the original retail price of that lens.

If anyone is looking at this lens too, do check it out, you might find a stock clearance price too.

I am surprised you are still finding new copies of that lens as it was officially discontinued back in 2017. Canon repair support is ending February of 2023 for the 70-300mm DO. After February of next year, Canon will no longer repair that lens.

In another post you said "The 55-250mm stm is not really cheap in my country. It's about $300 for new. I figured add on a bit more and probably get the EF 70-300mm DO IS USM $430, EF 70-300 IS ii USM $500 or even the Tamron 100-400mm $610."

Frankly, even $430 is far too much for the DO lens.  All of the other lenses in your list are quite good and are far better than the DO lens.  There are absolutely zero reasons to choose the DO lens over any of the other options in your list.

nnowak wrote:

I am surprised you are still finding new copies of that lens as it was officially discontinued back in 2017. Canon repair support is ending February of 2023 for the 70-300mm DO. After February of next year, Canon will no longer repair that lens.

In another post you said "The 55-250mm stm is not really cheap in my country. It's about $300 for new. I figured add on a bit more and probably get the EF 70-300mm DO IS USM $430, EF 70-300 IS ii USM $500 or even the Tamron 100-400mm $610."

Frankly, even $430 is far too much for the DO lens. All of the other lenses in your list are quite good and are far better than the DO lens. There are absolutely zero reasons to choose the DO lens over any of the other options in your list.

A good thing (or maybe it's a bad thing) about living in Asia, is things are sometimes backwards. For example I see prices of lenses in the west so cheap but here it can sometimes be pricey.

Anyways this exactly why I post such stuff here, the feedback from you and also the community is always very much appreciated.