The decision is about to be made, so speak now or forever hold your peace

Nigvo wrote:

I tried to get along with two systems, but I just found it a pain in the backside. Life is much easier if you just have one system.

This is why I'm grappling with a current evaluation. I have a OM-1 which I love along with most of their Pro glass. I'm evaluating having a FF along for the ride. A new Sony A7R5. So far it does have superior human face/eye detection. The animal detection is very close. But I'm not finding the image quality to be much if any different. In fact the OM seems to be sharper most of the time. It's a LOT easier to get a sharp result out of 20mp then 60mp. But I'm continuing to evaluate. It's a $7700 investment I'd dealing with with lenses chosen on that Sony so I"m just not sure it's worth it.

Messier Object wrote:

Gary from Seattle wrote:

I think your comment on weather sealing definitely goes to OM-1; but you have left out one of the greatest advantages of Olympus/OMD gear, industry tops IBIS. The only real need for a tripod in this family of gear is for low light macro focus stacking or bracketing or for long duration astro images.

Canon R6II:

• Built-in image stabilization rated to 8.0 stops

the era of Olympus|OMDS wearing the IBIS crown has ended

Peter

I'm finding out that manufacturers tend to stretch the truth where IBIS is concerned. In the real world I do believe you'll find he OM-1 stabilization especially with a Sync IS lens to be superior.

PhotoMac503 wrote:

If you're tired of juggling lenses why would you use two systems?

GAS is a mental health issue that shouldn't be mocked.

Don't laugh. I've had all 3 COVID's 2 of which had NO effect on me. More recently I had a real bad case of it that I suffered for 3 weeks with the ramifications of having had it. By the end of that all I was quite depressed. I then when into a stage of extreme boredom. I'm quite sure I'm NOT the only person whose been through this. That said the GAS sure did kick in when the A7RV was released. I just had to see what it was all about. I'm evaluating one as we speak with a rather sweet Tamron 35-150 f2-f2.8 lens and a 200-600 Sony lens to check out distant stuff. So far I'd be lying if I didn't admit with close shot evaluations it's NOT blowing me away in any regard except it's face/eye tracking is impressive. More refined than my OM-1. But the OM-1 is capable of such sharp images that it seems to compete with the A7R5 regardless of it's 60mp FF sensor.

The weird part is shooting in Jpeg the OM-1 actually has LESS noise and is easier to eliminate at the likes of say ISO3200. Go figure. I'll be continuing to work with them to see if I plan on keeping the Sony over the next week. But the cost is one thing I'm not sure of if it doesn't blow me away. But once again regarding GAS and mental status you better believe it's a factor.

Funkmon wrote:

Prepare to be unimpressed with the OM1

Where in the world did THAT comment come from? Most certainly another galaxy. I'm currently comparing a A7R5 60mp FF camera with an OM-1 and have to tell you the differences are extremely minor. Unless you're using a Hasselblad you have no clue about what you are saying. The OM-1 is one of the MOST impressive photographic tools available at this time. And the light carry weight is just a bonus.

Sounds like you considered all those aspects. You're good to go.

All the best

mikero wrote:

Rolling shutter is still there with the OM-1. Quite noticeable if panning with buildings in the background. So don't be fooled.

Is that for video, or still photos as well?

Nonetheless I love my two OM-1s.

Mike

PhotoMac503 wrote:

If you're tired of juggling lenses why would you use two systems?

In my opinion that's a transition phase (speaking from experience).

I can also see a multi-system scenario. FF and m43 systems are different enough (2x the sensor size) that they can supplement each other for different needs.

May be the R6 will stay for the long run, with one or two specific lenses, while two m43 bodies will cover everything else.

GAS is a mental health issue that shouldn't be mocked.

Messier Object wrote:

In the real world Olympus and OM also cherry picked the IBIS specs they published. Read the * note in their fine print and you will see it’s for a particular lens at a particular focal length

And presumably, so do everybody else.

What is the CIPA test for establishing the IS value?

Cheers,

Rick

Also, it's irrelevant what other makers are doing because their efforts do not reduce how effective Oly/OM IBIS, OIS and sync-IS are.

There are two major brands supporting M4/3 and we would not like it ever to be one.

Messier Object wrote:

Gary from Seattle wrote:

I think your comment on weather sealing definitely goes to OM-1; but you have left out one of the greatest advantages of Olympus/OMD gear, industry tops IBIS. The only real need for a tripod in this family of gear is for low light macro focus stacking or bracketing or for long duration astro images.

Canon R6II:

• Built-in image stabilization rated to 8.0 stops

the era of Olympus|OMDS wearing the IBIS crown has ended

Peter

Olympus made a rod for their own back when they based their claim for greatness of how good their IBIS was. It was a good selling point once but now that all cameras have IBIS its sales benefit has been neutered.

So IBIS is very useful but its benefit has been over-hyped to the point where the number of stops runs into crazy-land as if nobody can hold a camera steady and fast lenses have become a joke.

The pious hope that IBIS will cure everything including capturing images whilst break dancing ...

Looking forward for a claim of 20 stops when just 2 stops might be quite good enough.

nzmacro wrote:

Tommy S wrote:

I was looking for a second body to complement my R6 to stop juggling the lenses. I analyzed all Pros & Cons of entering the new MFT system. I think I did my homework well enough and I am not wrong to buy OM-1 with 12-40 and 40-150 F2.8 Pro lenses.

My reasoning to buy such a combo:

R6II just can't hold up in this competition.

• Electronic shutter with no apparent rolling shutter
• 10 to 50 FPS
• Form factor OM-1 / 12-40 for street photography vs R6 / RF24-105F4
• PreCapture w/o RS
• Probably better weather sealing (I have never tried shooting in the rain or snow)
• Better F-speed for 200-300mm of FL equivalent (40-150 F2.8 vs EF 70-200 F2.8)

I am going to keep R6 with EF 24-70 F2.8 for short distances and shallower DoF, I think 2 such different systems will complement each other much better than another body of Canon R system. I will also return to taking the camera with me on vacation. MFT knocks out FF in this area.

I am open to your comment even if you think I suffer from GAS

That's the beauty of manual focus lenses. Pick what ever body you want. In my case m4/3 and Sony.

Very easy, no lists needed, just need a shutter button and any box will do basically.

Danny.

Might I suggest that he wait for the R6III or R6IV which should be available in a year or so .... Panasonic is still selling the desirable G9 - I have had mine since it was first released and have no felt need that it needs upgrading.