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focus stack of live jumping spider

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oneofone25
oneofone25 Senior Member • Posts: 1,586
focus stack of live jumping spider
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He is about 5mm long, a male Phidippus mystaceus

Olympus macro gear - 39 shot focus stack using the Olympus 60mm macro lens and MC-20 teleconverter (kenko 16mm tube to attach together)

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BlancheBarbe
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Nice !

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jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,027
Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

BlancheBarbe wrote:

Nice !

yes very

is that led lights reflected in its eyes ?

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oneofone25
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jim mij wrote:

BlancheBarbe wrote:

Nice !

yes very

is that led lights reflected in its eyes ?

yes, I was holding it in my left hand.  I did another that turned out maybe some better with the lighting...he was munching on a tiny fruit fly

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jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,027
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oneofone25 wrote:

jim mij wrote:

BlancheBarbe wrote:

Nice !

yes very

is that led lights reflected in its eyes ?

yes, I was holding it in my left hand. I did another that turned out maybe some better with the lighting...he was munching on a tiny fruit fly

I think thats definitely "maybe some better"

Those olympus cameras have their uses helping you with stacking.

Someone in the canon m forum helped me by describing a workaround for stacking using 14fps flash (in my case 4 before the flash gives up). Youve shown a stacking option with LEDs to try out. And I now have a raynox 250 too.

Lots to play with, such a shame its the off season and willing subjects are not to be found

So please send the spider over to my house, I hate fruit flies and gnats buzzing and crawling about, and id love to try out new techniques

jim

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AeroPhotographer Regular Member • Posts: 462
Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

That's a beautiful photo.

How long does your camera take to shoot that stack?

Thank you,

Alan

oneofone25
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Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

AeroPhotographer wrote:

That's a beautiful photo.

How long does your camera take to shoot that stack?

Thank you,

Alan

4-5 seconds for those 40 or so images I believe.  Many times I just have to redo it quickly if there is any movement...so it takes a few tries.  Thank the Lord for electronic shutter!

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macrophoto_markus New Member • Posts: 18
Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

Can I ask what settings you used? I just got the raynox 250 and tried some focus stacking at f5.6 and a focus bracketing increment of 3/10 and when i was at the back-end of my insect it got too small and ended up all messed up, was the stack too big or did I mess up something else?

oneofone25
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Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

macrophoto_markus wrote:

Can I ask what settings you used? I just got the raynox 250 and tried some focus stacking at f5.6 and a focus bracketing increment of 3/10 and when i was at the back-end of my insect it got too small and ended up all messed up, was the stack too big or did I mess up something else?

was this stacking IN CAMERA ??  What camera and lenses are you using?

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macrophoto_markus New Member • Posts: 18
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No, I took the pictures with focus bracketing on a tripod of a dead bumblebee with the EM1 III and the 60mm/Raynox 250. If I only stack the first 20 pictures of its head the stack turns out fine, anything beyond had the lines in the picture above.

oneofone25
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macrophoto_markus wrote:

No, I took the pictures with focus bracketing on a tripod of a dead bumblebee with the EM1 III and the 60mm/Raynox 250. If I only stack the first 20 pictures of its head the stack turns out fine, anything beyond had the lines in the picture above.

are they all the same sized images?

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3D Gunner Senior Member • Posts: 1,025
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If the individual images are good, the problem is with the software used for stacking.

pcassel Senior Member • Posts: 2,244
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Impressive image. I'm a newbie to macro. I'm hoping to learn how to find and place or orient to subjects. If you don't mind:

How did you get your subject to remain reasonably still on an open, flat surface? That is, was it there out in the open standing still or did you need to place it there? TIA if you choose to answer.

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macrophoto_markus New Member • Posts: 18
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I think I fixed the problem, smaller focus increments and I don't have any issues anymore, looks a lot better already:

I appreciate your help though, I really like your posts, I have been following them for a while now.

LesPickstock Contributing Member • Posts: 576
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Never managed a ‘live stack’ myself (Sony A7RivA) tho have tried perhaps 100 times. The vast majority it was me who moved rather than the subject. So it remains on my ‘to do’ list. Very well done.

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jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,027
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glad you got your teething troubles fixed, thats a big improvement from your earlier post

what are those white "hands", i've seen them on my pics too.

I did watch an Allen Wells youtube on how to wash & blow dry insects before use, which i've yet to do

Jim

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River Photography
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place him on a  leaf or flower for a more realistic environmental image. then you are there.

Rp

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River Photography
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Re: focus stack of live jumping spider

oneofone25 wrote:

macrophoto_markus wrote:

Can I ask what settings you used? I just got the raynox 250 and tried some focus stacking at f5.6 and a focus bracketing increment of 3/10 and when i was at the back-end of my insect it got too small and ended up all messed up, was the stack too big or did I mess up something else?

was this stacking IN CAMERA ?? What camera and lenses are you using?

this happens because you are shooting the image at 45 deg above the subject, the best results are when you shoot from the same level and then either move the camera towards the subject or use focus stacking. its a very common problem. you need to shoot on the same plain as the subject.

Rp

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