New to Canon M--a few questions

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale. A few questions for you experienced Canon M users.

1. How long does it take for Canon to ship?

2. Is the 18-55 lens any better than the 15-45?

3. Anyone use the 28 macro as your main lens for everyday shooting?

4. Seems like the 11-22 zoom has a great reputation for sharpness. Is it a huge improvement over the 15-45?

5. Is there an adapter for Fuji XF lenses to Canon M mount?

I'm retired and on a budget so trying to figure out what to get. Moving out of the Fuji system--not a pro and don't need that much money tied up in photography equipment.

Thanks for your help--I've been reading a bunch of threads in the Canon M forum.

mandodon wrote:

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale. A few questions for you experienced Canon M users.

1. How long does it take for Canon to ship?

2. Is the 18-55 lens any better than the 15-45?

3. Anyone use the 28 macro as your main lens for everyday shooting?

4. Seems like the 11-22 zoom has a great reputation for sharpness. Is it a huge improvement over the 15-45?

5. Is there an adapter for Fuji XF lenses to Canon M mount?

I'm retired and on a budget so trying to figure out what to get. Moving out of the Fuji system--not a pro and don't need that much money tied up in photography equipment.

Thanks for your help--I've been reading a bunch of threads in the Canon M forum.

What do you like to shoot?

R2

I live in NM and shoot a lot of landscapes, sunsets, mesas, horses, pets, people.

mandodon wrote:

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale. A few questions for you experienced Canon M users.

Welcome to the Canon M forum!

1. How long does it take for Canon to ship?

Most of the time you will get a refurb within a week, may be more with the black friday/cyber monday sales.

2. Is the 18-55 lens any better than the 15-45?

The 15-45 has more 'copy variation' than the 18-55, it's more likely to get a copy that is decentered and unsharp in some areas. the 15mm wide end is a lot wider than the 18mm wide end, so it's more useful for very wide-angle images. I have good copies of both.... the 15-45 is sharper in the center but the 18-55 is sharper in the corners and so more consistent across the frame. Every 15-45 I've had (6 of them) has 'frizzy' corners.

3. Anyone use the 28 macro as your main lens for everyday shooting?

Some do, it is sharper than the kit zooms and a good walk-around lens if you have enough light for f3.5.

4. Seems like the 11-22 zoom has a great reputation for sharpness. Is it a huge improvement over the 15-45?

Absolutely - the 11-22 is consistently sharp across the frame at all apertures and focal lengths.

5. Is there an adapter for Fuji XF lenses to Canon M mount?

No.

I'm retired and on a budget so trying to figure out what to get. Moving out of the Fuji system--not a pro and don't need that much money tied up in photography equipment.

Thanks for your help--I've been reading a bunch of threads in the Canon M forum.

Thanks for all the responses!

The 3 lens, 6 lens, and 9 lens thread is very helpful also.

Looking forward to posting some pics and joining in more once I get the M50 II.

mandodon wrote:

Thanks for all the responses!

The 3 lens, 6 lens, and 9 lens thread is very helpful also.

Looking forward to posting some pics and joining in more once I get the M50 II.

Welcome to the forum.

I like the 28 macro a lot for general walkaround shooting and the great macro capability for casual insect and tiny flower shots while out and about. The image stabilisation means the f/3.5 max aperture isn't a problem outdoors in general. You should also get the 22mm f/2 for lower light/faster moving subjects though. It's tiny, sharp and inexpensive.

The 32 f/1.4 is the best of all the M primes, but I've never found the money (very expensive in UK, cheaper at the moment in the U.S.

mandodon wrote:

mandodon wrote:

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale. A few questions for you experienced Canon M users.

1. How long does it take for Canon to ship?

2. Is the 18-55 lens any better than the 15-45?

3. Anyone use the 28 macro as your main lens for everyday shooting?

4. Seems like the 11-22 zoom has a great reputation for sharpness. Is it a huge improvement over the 15-45?

5. Is there an adapter for Fuji XF lenses to Canon M mount?

I'm retired and on a budget so trying to figure out what to get. Moving out of the Fuji system--not a pro and don't need that much money tied up in photography equipment.

Thanks for your help--I've been reading a bunch of threads in the Canon M forum.

I live in NM and shoot a lot of landscapes, sunsets, mesas, horses, pets, people.

Thanks for the info.

11-22 would be the top choice for landscapes, sunsets, mesas.  15-45 is very useful (if you get a good copy) for landscapes, groups, and even individuals.  18-55 is Very sharp (my copy is), though not as wide.  I'd rather have a zoom for everyday shooting than a prime.

The EF-M primes (16, 22, 28, 32, 56) are all excellent.  The 32 is great for people.  The Sigma 56 will give you more separation and reach.

The EF-S 55-250 would give you telephoto (you'd need an EF to EF-M adapter), and this lens is at an unbelievably low price of $99 at the Canon Refurbished Store right now...

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-ef-s-55-250mm-f-4-5-6-is-stm

Happy shopping!

R2

R2D2 wrote:

The EF-S 55-250 would give you telephoto (you'd need an EF to EF-M adapter), and this lens is at an unbelievably low price of $99 at the Canon Refurbished Store right now...

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-ef-s-55-250mm-f-4-5-6-is-stm

Happy shopping!

R2

I had to do that ! 

mandodon wrote:

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale.

That is one sweet little camera. M50II has the best focus eye focus powers of all the M cameras.

Did you see this thread ? Check this guy out !

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4644739

The few times I have ordered, it has taken 7-14 days to receive.

I am still waiting for shipping confirmation on a lens I bought on CM as well.

Get the 11-22

mandodon wrote:

I live in NM and shoot a lot of landscapes, sunsets, mesas, horses, pets, people.

32mm f/1.4 + 11-22mm for anything wider. Both lenses aren't exactly cheap, but they deliver, and just these two lenses can easily cover all your needs.

Personally I like the adapted Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8, which can be found for good prices used, but it's a heavy lens. The IQ is very nice though.

Welcome!

1122 You can not only take pictures of the scenery, but also people.

trungtran wrote:

The few times I have ordered, it has taken 7-14 days to receive.

I am still waiting for shipping confirmation on a lens I bought on CM as well.

Get the 11-22

I got the shipping confirmation for the M6ii ordered on Wed Nov 30. Expected delivery Wed Dec 7, seven days. later.

mandodon wrote:

Just ordered a refurbished M50 II with the 15-45 lens during the cyber Monday sale. A few questions for you experienced Canon M users.

1. How long does it take for Canon to ship?

Right now Canon have been dealing with logistics issues due to problems with international shipping.  It's hard to say but would depend on availability (which Canon can determine for you) plus your location.  The EOS M50 II is a good camera with pretty much everything you need.  It also has the DPAF sensor which makes a difference with AF performance and even the use of longer lenses.

2. Is the 18-55 lens any better than the 15-45?

I suspect it might be but the 15-45 is a popular kit-lens and costs a bit less to produce.  In the past there have been some questions raised about image quality but Canon seems to have improved QC and I think this lens was subject to a redesign quite a few years ago.  There is a difference between different lenses, even with startup times.

3. Anyone use the 28 macro as your main lens for everyday shooting?

I have used this numerous times for everyday shooting. The EF-M 28mm Macro lens is a sharp lens that offers some decent landscape and city-scape capability. Obviously it's famous for being a small Macro lens but note that this is a wide-angle Macro which produces a degree of scenic and subject distortion when up close, though nothing quite as warped as the images from an iPhone's wide-angle Macro. The look is quite unique and the lens is very handy. I find myself switching to a brighter lens after sunset though. At f/3.5, the aperture gets a little dim in low light if shooting without a flash or handheld. Bokeh is also nice when shooting closeup subjects.
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I often pair both the EF-M 28mm Macro and the EF-M 11-22mm lens with the bright and affordable EF-M 22mm f/2 lens for shooting in low light but more recently I prefer the super-bright EF-M 32mm f/1.4 lens which also has a very good closeup ability. Note that the EF-M 28mm Macro lens has an adjustable "Right Light" on the front of the lens and comes with a filter adapter ring. The included Filter Adapter takes the same 43mm diameter filter that several other lenses also accept... including the EF-M 32m lens and the EF-M 22mm lens.  The 28mm focal length equates to around 45mm when on an APS-C sensor so this means very low distortion for landscapes and that means you can more easily merge images to create panoramas.    There's no obvious sky banding when using this lens with a Circular Polarizer due to the field of view.
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EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens - this Harlequin Bug is around 10-12mm in size.

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens - (vertical 2-shot panorama)

4. Seems like the 11-22 zoom has a great reputation for sharpness. Is it a huge improvement over the 15-45?

The EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens is very sharp. It's sharp across the image and it produces really lovely results with less distortion for portraits when zoomed out to 22mm. Whilst the bokeh is quite subtle from this lens, at 22mm there's some background defocus that helps separate the subject from the background. The way this lens handles light is excellent, despite the relatively narrow aperture. Color rendition is good. At 11mm this lens can produce sky-banding when a Circular Polarizer is used but when you zoom out to 22mm it disappears. This is common with wide angle lenses, even the most expensive varieties.  You can mask the banding by framing clouds in the sky or turn the 55mm filter to a more neutral position to avoid banding from occurring.
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The general opinion is that this lens produces 'L-series' results. It's small and lightweight and can be used as a walk-about lens, especially with travel. The optional lens hood is useful for protecting this lens if you don't like using filters.  And double stacking filters on top of each other WILL produce hard corner vignetting with this lens.  Thin profile filters are the way to go with this lens.
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EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

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5. Is there an adapter for Fuji XF lenses to Canon M mount?

No idea but there's a few Fuji users here who might be able to answer this.  I am not aware of such an adapter.

I'm retired and on a budget so trying to figure out what to get. Moving out of the Fuji system--not a pro and don't need that much money tied up in photography equipment.

I use both Canon DSLRs and not the EOS R system cameras alongside the EOS M system.  If I was to start out again from scratch, I'd likely just buy an EOS M camera with a handful of lenses.

Thanks for your help--I've been reading a bunch of threads in the Canon M forum.

One thing worth mentioning here is that Canon appear to have ignored the EOS M system in favor of their much more expensive EOS R system.  For this reason, we're unsure if Canon will continue to release new EF-M lenses or M-system cameras, something that hasn't happened in a while now.  But Canon did state (earlier this year) that they make a lot of money from EOS M sales and that they would "continue to support the EOS M system".  That's all we have to go on at the moment.
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For their price and size, the EOS M cameras are capable of taking exactly the same image quality as a decent DSLR camera.  And don't forget that you can mount just about any EF mount lens to the EOS M camera bodies.  This enables you to use perhaps a hundred or more lenses via a Canon lens adapter.  When I bought my EOS M I didn't even buy any native lenses for it but used EF lenses instead.  But the smaller, lighter sizes of the EF-M lenses make this camera system a pleasure to use. 
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For your Consideration...
For quite a few EOS M users, the recent EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM lens is perhaps one of the most popular - and is worth your consideration.  Priced slightly higher than the other EF-M lenses, it's absurdly sharp (one of Canon's sharpest lenses) and offers a very decent closeup focus capability.  The Bokeh from that lens is also very nice and quite bold.  You can usually fit an alternative lens hood to it without using the OEM hood which is large and perhaps a little overpriced.  This lens is bright enough to be used handheld in very dark locations.  I often handhold this lens at night without a flash.
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Welcome to the "M50 club" - I have both the M50 and the M50 Mk2 which is slightly improved (especially in the focusing speed and accuracy front).

Regarding lenses, as R2D2 mentioned the 15-45 is a very good lens if you are lucky to get a good copy.

One of the benefits of the M-series is the compactness of the bodies and lenses so for that reason my recommendations are for native lenses only - the adaptor (EF-M to EF) adds weight and EF and EF-S lenses are generally heavier and bulkier and often do not offer an image quality advantage. After a number of permutations I have settled with:

Canon 15-45 (general purpose)
Canon 11-22 (landscape, walkabout - great lens)
Sigma 30/1.4 (general purpose - great quality/images)
Sigma 56/1.4 (my favourite lens on this camera)
Canon 55-200 (for sports, candid etc - surprisingly capable)

The M50/M50Mk2 are very capable cameras especially when paired with quality glass such as the Sigmas mentioned above and Canon 11-22 and the Canon 32/1.4 which I hear is a great lens. I shoot weddings with my M50s (previously using D-SLR 5DMk3s) so such is my confidence in the system. Shame Canon is channelling all its R&D efforts on the R-system now..

Hope this helps
Alexis

Larry Rexley wrote:

trungtran wrote:

The few times I have ordered, it has taken 7-14 days to receive.

I am still waiting for shipping confirmation on a lens I bought on CM as well.

Get the 11-22

I got the shipping confirmation for the M6ii ordered on Wed Nov 30. Expected delivery Wed Dec 7, seven days. later.

I got my tracking number, ETA Friday, so it be 9 days since I ordered if it arrives on schedule.

User1303423862 wrote:

The 32 f/1.4 is the best of all the M primes, but I've never found the money (very expensive in UK, cheaper at the moment in the U.S.

Agree - that is why I invested in the Sigma 30/1,4 - a fine lens especially for the money.

Marco Nero wrote:

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens - this Harlequin Bug is around 10-12mm in size.

EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro lens - (vertical 2-shot panorama)

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 lens

beautiful photography such as these speak for themselves on capability of the system

Canon doesn't want this stuff hanging around, it is too good for such prices