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New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0

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bmninada Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0
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** HONEST FEEDBACK AFTER USAGE ++ HOW TO **

I opted for this service but using image.cloud which restricts to 80 images / month.

The way to get it is - one needs to download their app in the phone (image.cloud) and then using the app and the camera connect to each other. In parallel - you purchase the subscription for cloud processing (1 month trial).

Here it gets a bit convoluted. One needs to go to main menu - playback and then tab #3 "Cloud RAW Image Processing". Select images to process and camera uploads. [I was initially trying to find it in Menu -> Communications -> Upload to image.canon]. Also, I disabled automatic upload so that only those I want to process I send to cloud.

At this point I get an email within 15 min that Canon received my request and within 30 minutes get 2nd. email -> processed.

Critical to note: A Canon ID is required, Cloud processing is limited to 80 images/month but one can buy additional slots, photos remain for a month so auto download is recommended into PC or connect the cloud to auto upload into few services they offer connectivity, etc.

1 sad and bad detail and probably why I will not continue is I could not find a way to ask for neural processing of specific photos other than from the camera! This poses a huge problem for me since the LCD screen and the navigation makes it very cumbersome to decide which photos to send for processing. I have SFTP based auto download into my NAS drive so I use that 1st. to decide and mark which ones and then go back to camera to mark those and send for processing.

In terms of output:

1. I used LR (Trial) and Capture One (Trial) and DPP on a specific photo.

2. Applied neural on the same photo.

3. All starting from pure RAW

I can safely conclude neural did an amazing job. No noise, DLO, etc. all good. Small modifications might be required but if something can do what I do manually automatically and do it good - I'm sold.

The photo I selected was a HIGH ISO dark photo - purposefully.

I repeated this but with a portrait and finally repeated with HDR PQ enabled photo and also a Dual Pixel enabled photo. All of them were successfully processed. That surprised me since I read somewhere Dual Pixel RAW not supported!

I'm sold.

Note: The reason I opted for cloud is because otherwise one needs a relatively powerful PC to do it locally. Also note: this service is currently available only to a small subset of cameras.

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Ephemeris
Ephemeris Senior Member • Posts: 1,186
Re: New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0

Atta-Boy wrote:

Ephemeris wrote:

John_Hoffman wrote:

Through the Extended functions dropdown in DPP4.

Hi John.

I think that looks like how to download it but it requires a license. I've only seen the steps in the manual I posted but I understood the license requires you to sign up?

I could be wrong fella.

download does not require a license

No but to use it does.

Ephemeris
Ephemeris Senior Member • Posts: 1,186
Re: New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0

Zeee wrote:

Atta-Boy wrote:

Ephemeris wrote:

John_Hoffman wrote:

They do give a free 31 day trial. I used it to test a few images. Wasn't definitive enough for me to continue with it.

Do you know how to obtain it John?

it is in DPP4 manual = https://cam.start.canon/en/S002/manual/html/UG-05_Synthetic_0080.html

I forgot about that part. Windows only right now. DPP for Mac has not had that latest update. I’ve been checking for about 6 weeks and nothing.

After more looking I think the situation is as I had thought.

License required.

Need to sign up with a financial link, card etc to be able to obtain the license.

This I suppose could be viewed as a free trial but I'm less comfortable due to having to pass financial details.

Does anyone know if I've missed a trick?

Thomas A Anderson Senior Member • Posts: 1,360
Re: New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0

Hey, could you let jim (https://www.dpreview.com/members/5787885391/overview) know that I'd gladly help him with his question but I'm not able to respond directly to him due to my permanent probation?  He sent me a question via DM regarding processing RAW images and my previous writing on the subject.  It sounds like he's kind of missing the point of RAW, but he doesn't participate much in forums, so replying to his recent posts won't be a good work-around because he has no recent posts on the topic.

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Joe McCarthy_Ireland New Member • Posts: 1
Re: New Canon Neural Network Image Processing Tool 1.0
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Hi,

I started using Canons Neural Network Image Processing Tool yesterday and thought I'd post a quick example of what it can achieve.

This shot was taken on an R7 with a Sigma 150-600 C, at ISO 25600!, 1/8000 & F6.3

I also test out Dual Pixel RAW mode, I found it quite good for sharpening the image before processing it with the Neural Network tool.

It's 6euro per month where I live, with the first month as a trial. I haven't tried any other AI image processing tools, but my first impressions is that this is very good value, even more so since one of the main draw backs of the R7 is relatively poor high ISO performance.

Before (Obviously):

After a few minutes on Digital Photo Professional:

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