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Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

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darinb Contributing Member • Posts: 941
Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

My daughter wants a strobe for Christmas--her first strobe. I'm a photographer but not a diver. She's a diver with an Olympus TG-6.

Am I correct that the Mini 2 will be a wonderful close uplight (within a foot or two?) and a passable mid-range light (up to six feet, say?).

With the Olympus she will probably be shooting at a much larger aperture than people with a mirrorless and I don't think she needs/wants those inky dark backgrounds that tend to be favored. Just some light on the subject to help the color and brightness.

Will the Mini 2 work as an intro strobe or do I need to go to something like a Inon D-200?

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Barmaglot_07 Contributing Member • Posts: 633
Re: Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

darinb wrote:

Am I correct that the Mini 2 will be a wonderful close uplight (within a foot or two?)

Within a foot or less, yes.

and a passable mid-range light (up to six feet, say?).

No way. I don't know what your experience is with underwater photography, but six feet underwater is quite a significant distance, and you need powerful strobes to light something that far. I use Retra Pro strobes, and if I am shooting something big enough to require me to hover six feet away, I expect to crank the power up to maximum to close to that.

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Re: Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

For macro work, the Miniflash is really good.  Small, portable, and doesn't need to be big because it needs to be close.   That works for macro, but you'll be shooting with another stop or two of ISO for wide angle work.  Not sure how much spread it has for that sort of thing either.

I think it works well with my 105mm macro, but I mount a pair of YS-D1's for wide angle.

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Re: Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

darinb wrote:

My daughter wants a strobe for Christmas--her first strobe. I'm a photographer but not a diver. She's a diver with an Olympus TG-6.

Am I correct that the Mini 2 will be a wonderful close uplight (within a foot or two?) and a passable mid-range light (up to six feet, say?).

With the Olympus she will probably be shooting at a much larger aperture than people with a mirrorless and I don't think she needs/wants those inky dark backgrounds that tend to be favored. Just some light on the subject to help the color and brightness.

Will the Mini 2 work as an intro strobe or do I need to go to something like a Inon D-200?

I have a NEW inbox Mini 1 and Optical snoot kit I can sell you. I bought 2 thinking I would be able to use them as a pair for entry level Wide-Angle and unfortunately there isn't enough light for wide angle so I bought a set of Inon Z330s.  and to clarify I borrowed the second strobe from a friend during a dive day so I didn't have to get mine wet.

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kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
Re: Backscatter Mini 2 as first strobe?

darinb wrote:

My daughter wants a strobe for Christmas--her first strobe. I'm a photographer but not a diver. She's a diver with an Olympus TG-6.

Am I correct that the Mini 2 will be a wonderful close uplight (within a foot or two?) and a passable mid-range light (up to six feet, say?).

6 ft is close to the max distance that any strobe can be effective at.

With the Olympus she will probably be shooting at a much larger aperture than people with a mirrorless and I don't think she needs/wants those inky dark backgrounds that tend to be favored. Just some light on the subject to help the color and brightness.

People go to big F-stops (small actual aperture) to maximize depth of field which is tiny for macro.   The dark backgrounds just remove distraction from the subject.

Single strobe shooting cuts in half the number of ways you can get a shot wrong, but a single strobe does have a ceiling at to what it can do.    Nevertheless, better to start with one, and I think this one is a a decent choice.   BS products are well conceived, and you can read through their (self) review to see what it can do well.   They also promote/sell a lot of the TGs, so I believe they are well matched.    Get two batteries.

Wide Angle requires two strobes.   'Normal' angle like a 18" fish at a few feet can be ok with one.

As LEDs have gotten cheaper and brighter, there are more people doing macro with them.   This can be less frustrating when your subject is in the midst of a staghorn coral and you keep getting the it in the flash's shadow.   OTOH, live creatures tend to hide from the light.

I have also been somewhat successful in pairing a ring light (the $300 ish weefine 3000) with a 1" G7Xii, even won a piece of travel luggage in a Catalina one day shootout.   For subjects that don't run from the light, the ring removes the harsh shadow concerns, and doesn't need a strobe arm or aim.

Will the Mini 2 work as an intro strobe or do I need to go to something like a Inon D-200?

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