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What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

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stevet1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,300
What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Do you have one?

What aperture do you think gives you your sharpest pictures?

I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to this question. Does it vary by camera or lens?

I've read that it's usually about 2 or 3 stops down from a lens's widest aperture, but I don't know for sure.

Steve Thomas

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Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,611
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

stevet1 wrote:

Do you have one?

What aperture do you think gives you your sharpest pictures?

I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to this question. Does it vary by camera or lens?

I've read that it's usually about 2 or 3 stops down from a lens's widest aperture, but I don't know for sure.

Steve Thomas

Steve, I haven't actually tested any of my lenses for their sweet spot.

But, on APS-C, a photo taken at an aperture smaller than f/8 will suffer from diffraction.

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Len Philpot
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Dunlin wrote:

But, on APS-C, a photo taken at an aperture smaller than f/8 will suffer from diffraction.

In my experience, diffraction may technically be there at >f/8, but it's generally not a noticeable factor until about f/13 or so.

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Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,611
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Len Philpot wrote:

Dunlin wrote:

But, on APS-C, a photo taken at an aperture smaller than f/8 will suffer from diffraction.

In my experience, diffraction may technically be there at >f/8, but it's generally not a noticeable factor until about f/13 or so.

I only really notice it if I'm trying to do a long exposure (without a ND).

Funnily, I recently found a photo in my archive shot at ISO6400 and f/16 in dim light. Why on earth did I do that?

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OP stevet1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,300
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Early on, when I first got my camera, I took a shot in Auto, and was shocked when I realized that the camera had chosen f/5.6 as its aperture.

I've wondered about that ever since.

Steve Thomas

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Iron Mike
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Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

stevet1 wrote:

Do you have one?

What aperture do you think gives you your sharpest pictures?

I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to this question. Does it vary by camera or lens?

I've read that it's usually about 2 or 3 stops down from a lens's widest aperture, but I don't know for sure.

Steve Thomas

There are review websites that show the image sharpness of a lens (measured by imatest) across its field of view for different apertures. The performance will vary for different lenses, some high end optics can be at maximal sharpness (centre) wide open or even 1 stop down. Often the edges of the image circle will improve at smaller apertures, even after the centre is already past its maximal resolution (or losing sharpens due to diffraction). The performance of zoom lenses can vary depending on the focal length. The review sites https://www.imaging-resource.com/ and https://www.photozone.de both display this sort of data for a wide number of canon lenses.

Mike

Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,611
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Iron Mike wrote:

stevet1 wrote:

Do you have one?

What aperture do you think gives you your sharpest pictures?

I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to this question. Does it vary by camera or lens?

I've read that it's usually about 2 or 3 stops down from a lens's widest aperture, but I don't know for sure.

Steve Thomas

There are review websites that show the image sharpness of a lens (measured by imatest) across its field of view for different apertures. The performance will vary for different lenses, some high end optics can be at maximal sharpness (centre) wide open or even 1 stop down. Often the edges of the image circle will improve at smaller apertures, even after the centre is already past its maximal resolution (or losing sharpens due to diffraction). The performance of zoom lenses can vary depending on the focal length. The review sites https://www.imaging-resource.com/ and https://www.photozone.de both display this sort of data for a wide number of canon lenses.

Mike

Don't forget copy variance.

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Iron Mike
MOD Iron Mike Contributing Member • Posts: 540
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Dunlin wrote:

Don't forget copy variance.

Yup

Cheapo Marx
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Prime or Zoom?

I trust no zoom wider than f/8 but I'll go f/2.8 with a prime if need be.

Digirame Forum Pro • Posts: 41,857
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For inexpensive zoom lenses like I use, the sweet spot for the lens is generally the "middle" apertures and "middle" focal lengths.  That's a broad generalization.  Also consider the depth of field each time, especially when using telephoto lenses.  Check the lens reviews for more precise information.

Iron Mike
MOD Iron Mike Contributing Member • Posts: 540
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Ultimately, as a primarily landscape photographer these days, 95% of my shots are at f/11-f13, well above the f-stop for maximum resolution on my L lenses. Getting enough dof trumps maximum sharpness most of the time.

Digirame Forum Pro • Posts: 41,857
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

I agree about the depth of field.  More and more I'm keen to getting more attentive to where I focus, the focal length and aperture, so that I achieve the DOF that I want.

A lot of times a photographer may think it's the lens that caused the softness in spots, when it's a depth of field issue.  I see that a lot.  Lately, I am trying to get closer to my subjects and use less focal length if I want everything in focus.

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guinness2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,617
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

This is a good page to examine lens characteristics

http://www.photozone.de

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guinness2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,617
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Digirame wrote:

I agree about the depth of field. More and more I'm keen to getting more attentive to where I focus, the focal length and aperture, so that I achieve the DOF that I want.

A lot of times a photographer may think it's the lens that caused the softness in spots, when it's a depth of field issue. I see that a lot. Lately, I am trying to get closer to my subjects and use less focal length if I want everything in focus.

I can’t help myself, but the best combo for that sake was a lens with DoF scale written there and the split prism + microprism focusing screen for manual focusing.

Maybe I wouldn’t miss the autofocus, (except of movement pictures, of course.)

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guinness2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,617
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Digirame wrote:

I agree about the depth of field. More and more I'm keen to getting more attentive to where I focus, the focal length and aperture, so that I achieve the DOF that I want.

A lot of times a photographer may think it's the lens that caused the softness in spots, when it's a depth of field issue. I see that a lot. Lately, I am trying to get closer to my subjects and use less focal length if I want everything in focus.

One can use the dedicated camera button to check the actual DoF at the aperture chosen, at the expense of less light in the viewfinder. The focusing is done at full aperture and the DoF corresponds to that. That button is usually on the camera body near to the left down side of the lens.

(You probably know, Digirame , just for OP)

Additionally, Dofmaster.com webpage or app was great to calculate the DoF in advance

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guinness2 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,617
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Cheapo Marx wrote:

I trust no zoom wider than f/8 but I'll go f/2.8 with a prime if need be.

The f/8 is a good rule of thumb.

Full aperture, on the other side, is hardly the sweet spot of the lens, unless it is the expensively corrected L-series profi lens.

Central sharpness might be good, anyway, the border sharpness less (maybe

non-distracting or welcome), but the main problem could be the chromatic aberation.

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Ontarian Veteran Member • Posts: 3,859
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

With my Sony RX10iv 24-600 mm fixed lens, most of my photos are in the 2.4 - 4-0 range.  Occasionally up to 6.0.

Don

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Solophotog Regular Member • Posts: 294
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

Does Canon's DPProfesional correct for diffraction problems?

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Iron Mike
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Solophotog wrote:

Does Canon's DPProfesional correct for diffraction problems?

DPP has a function called DLO, which is a deconvolution algorithm that can correct for a myriad of optical issues, including diffraction or lens aberrations when shooting wide open. It was amazing how well it could fix the spherical aberration when shooting the Canon 50/1.4 wide open.

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Solophotog Regular Member • Posts: 294
Re: What is your aperture's "sweet spot"?

So what if anything corrects for diffraction at small apertures?

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