Well, my prediction..

All the YouTube channels are spitting out X100V videos, I think a new X100 is imminent, which means a new Xpro should be revealed as well!

Well I hope you are right but I doubt it's coming soon.

X100V videos have been popular on YouTube for quite a while now...I'm glad I own one and will be looking forward to seeing what they do in the next version.

Bring on the X-P4. The sooner the better.

Pocket Lint wrote:

All the YouTube channels are spitting out X100V videos, I think a new X100 is imminent, which means a new Xpro should be revealed as well!

Why should Fuji hurry up offering a new X100, if people pay 100s more for a X100V than a year ago and Fuji can’t build enough of them to meet demand?

There will be a new X100, but not in a few months.

What do you miss in the X100V?

I think it's more the general social media trend at the moment. Tiktockers are "fawning" over the 100V as life changing. Nothing more than chasing view counts.

Of course the 100 series will get an update eventually, but I don't think it is tied to the uptick in video popularity.

YouTube will show your what you watch.  Watch a video about your Canon 50mm f1.2 L and YouTube will show you more videos about that lens.

Stick your hand in your pocket and pink lint comes out.  Do it again and more pink lint comes out.

Morris

I just find it strange that it’s their 10th Anniversary of the X mount that was started with the Xpro and so far nothing and 2022 is nearing an end. I had really high hopes there would be a special 10th anniversary edition of the Xpro3.

DirkPeh wrote:

Pocket Lint wrote:

All the YouTube channels are spitting out X100V videos, I think a new X100 is imminent, which means a new Xpro should be revealed as well!

Most of the recent videos on YT are of the "1/2 years with the X100V," longer-term review stuff. I'm sure they're out there, but I can't recall seeing any of the more recent videos mentioning things like "it's dated," "I'm bored with it," "still really needs this," etc. That in and of itself is pretty impressive.

Why should Fuji hurry up offering a new X100, if people pay 100s more for a X100V than a year ago and Fuji can’t build enough of them to meet demand?

There will be a new X100, but not in a few months.

What do you miss in the X100V?

I also have a hard time believing Fuji has the next model of the X100 series as a high priority right now. No one can keep them in stock, prices are well above the new MSRP for EXC/VG condx used, and it is almost 3 years since it was released. Hard to think of anything similar in the digital era, even Leica stuff.

Fuji has created something very difficult to do in the digital era and in the shrinking camera market...created a cult favorite, an iconic camera that users (pros and amateurs alike) fall all over themselves raving about, much like film shooters to this day speak of their Nikon FEs/FMs, Canon AE-1s, etc. Again, very impressive.

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Good analogy!

DarnGoodPhotos wrote:

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Maybe. But again, don't see why it would be needed at all. OIS is for video shooters and the X100 series is for photographers, not video bloggers.

fotosean wrote:

DarnGoodPhotos wrote:

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Maybe. But again, don't see why it would be needed at all. OIS is for video shooters and the X100 series is for photographers, not video bloggers.

I can think of plenty of photos, not involving subjects that move, which would benefit from stabilzation. Back when Fuji had poor video capabilities, no one was complaining about the zooms having OIS.

In the past everything has been around a 24/26 mp sensor for a very long period of time. This new 40mp sensor changes a lot.
A X100x with a 40 mp sensor would be a kind of a Leica Q2 alternative. Cropping certainly helps with a fixed focal length.

The chips shortage might motivate them to use what they can get in newer models for a higher price point, and not in outdated camera models having been on the market for years. Lots of competition in a shrinking market.

I would not be surprised a new XPro, X100, XS, and XE models coming sooner than in the past. Not shure what will happen with the XTxx series.

fotosean wrote:

DarnGoodPhotos wrote:

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Maybe. But again, don't see why it would be needed at all. OIS is for video shooters and the X100 series is for photographers, not video bloggers.

I would have to respectfully disagree with that statement. From my own experience, IBIS serves the needs of photographers at least as much as videographers, if not more.

Most implementations of IBIS have yet to become fully optimized for video. It's great for locked-off shots, but once you start moving, there generally is some form of distortion/warping that occurs in the image corners.

For photography though, it sometimes means the difference between getting a decent shot or not.

I believe it could be especially useful on the X100 series as it is limited to a maximum aperture of f/2, which sometimes proves insufficient in dim light.

yayatosorus wrote:

fotosean wrote:

DarnGoodPhotos wrote:

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Maybe. But again, don't see why it would be needed at all. OIS is for video shooters and the X100 series is for photographers, not video bloggers.

I would have to respectfully disagree with that statement. From my own experience, IBIS serves the needs of photographers at least as much as videographers, if not more.

Most implementations of IBIS have yet to become fully optimized for video. It's great for locked-off shots, but once you start moving, there generally is some form of distortion/warping that occurs in the image corners.

For photography though, it sometimes means the difference between getting a decent shot or not.

I believe it could be especially useful on the X100 series as it is limited to a maximum aperture of f/2, which sometimes proves insufficient in dim light.

Fair enough. I understand that everyone has unique use cases, and there will be folks that believe IBIS is essential these days. I personally don't think the X100-series needs IBIS, for the reason I mentioned before (gonna change the form figure and make it much bigger.)

But I have to say I respectfully disagree with the low light struggles you reference. The closest thing I have to the X100V is the Z fc, and I usually keep the Z 40mm f/2 on it (as the Z primes I have are very good in low light but bulky on the Z fc. The X100V is miles better than the Z fc and the 40mm in low light. I like to do a lot of night street photography, and I can't remember the last time I needed to even use the superb fill flash on the X100V.

fotosean wrote:

Fair enough. I understand that everyone has unique use cases, and there will be folks that believe IBIS is essential these days. I personally don't think the X100-series needs IBIS, for the reason I mentioned before (gonna change the form figure and make it much bigger.)

But I have to say I respectfully disagree with the low light struggles you reference. The closest thing I have to the X100V is the Z fc, and I usually keep the Z 40mm f/2 on it (as the Z primes I have are very good in low light but bulky on the Z fc. The X100V is miles better than the Z fc and the 40mm in low light. I like to do a lot of night street photography, and I can't remember the last time I needed to even use the superb fill flash on the X100V.

I personally often find myself either in places where either my ISO is maxed out, so my shutter speed drops drastically, and the IBIS unit ensures the pictures are free of any shake that would naturally occur.

Another scenario where I like to take advantage of IBIS is when I require a certain amount of depth of field while keeping my ISO low and not underexposing. The shutter speed is again set to rather low values that require the camera to be very stable to avoid any blurring - this is where IBIS gives you that edge. All of that could be done with a tripod, but IBIS being able to as low as 1/4th takes care of all but the most extreme lighting conditions.

fotosean wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

fotosean wrote:

DarnGoodPhotos wrote:

fotosean wrote:

Most people that opine about the X100V's successor seem to mention IBIS in the next iteration. Ok, each user has their own reasons for purchasing cameras, specific or unique use cases. The X100V does not need IBIS, IMHO. If the next X100 comes out with IBIS as the most notable upgrade, likely it will change the form factor significantly. In that case, I would have absolutely no inclination to get the "latest and greatest," seeing as how the X100V performs so well without it.

Fuji could add three or four stop OIS without changing the form-factor nearly as much as adding IBIS would.

Maybe. But again, don't see why it would be needed at all. OIS is for video shooters and the X100 series is for photographers, not video bloggers.

I would have to respectfully disagree with that statement. From my own experience, IBIS serves the needs of photographers at least as much as videographers, if not more.

Most implementations of IBIS have yet to become fully optimized for video. It's great for locked-off shots, but once you start moving, there generally is some form of distortion/warping that occurs in the image corners.

For photography though, it sometimes means the difference between getting a decent shot or not.

I believe it could be especially useful on the X100 series as it is limited to a maximum aperture of f/2, which sometimes proves insufficient in dim light.

Fair enough. I understand that everyone has unique use cases, and there will be folks that believe IBIS is essential these days. I personally don't think the X100-series needs IBIS, for the reason I mentioned before (gonna change the form figure and make it much bigger.)

But I have to say I respectfully disagree with the low light struggles you reference. The closest thing I have to the X100V is the Z fc, and I usually keep the Z 40mm f/2 on it (as the Z primes I have are very good in low light but bulky on the Z fc. The X100V is miles better than the Z fc and the 40mm in low light. I like to do a lot of night street photography, and I can't remember the last time I needed to even use the superb fill flash on the X100V.

For most of what I shoot IS isn’t necessary as it involves people movement. But find the stabilization in the ugly distant cousin of the X100, the Q2 liberating in extremely low light. A night sky, street lights or adding motion blur to a waterfall can be fun. Hand holding an X100V at 1/2 second would be a challenge for me. Since it's considered a "street" (gosh, I can't stand the term, but you know what I mean?) camera, IBIS could dramatically extend the working hours. I often shoot long after dark in places around the world and think it would be a good idea.

You clearly disagree, because of a possible change in form factor, but then, the T5 just got smaller 🤔

I’d just point out that it’s extremely unlikely any of these YouTubers know anything we don’t. Most have zero relationship with Fuji and get their rumours from the same place as the rest of us.

Now that the XT5 is out there, of course we’re going to see 40mp versions of the other model lines sometime soon.. but I doubt there’s anything  firmed up yet in the next few months, else we’d know about it already. I’m also slightly doubtful of the X-Pro continuing at all. For some time now Fuji have pretty much ignored the XP3 entirely.