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G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

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Nyalgy Bubu
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G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

About 3 or four years back, I [twice!] bought the Canon G7X Mk.2 and twice sent it back as, although I loved the hardware, I just couldn't get on with the way the camera worked in software.

I wrote a post about it at the time:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4168536

One of my main bugbears with the camera was the lack of info in the viewfinder when in either Aperture or Shutter priority mode. ie. as you changed aperture or shutter speed, the viwfinder info didn't update in real time to show you how the other setting was changing. Or as Kenneth123 succintly explained it in that thread:

What is odd to me is that in AV (or TV), the display only shows the value that you're actually adjusting, but not the corresponding related value, until you half-press the shutter. In other words: if I'm shooting in AV, as I adjust the aperture I don't have any real time information on what's happening with the shutter speed. When I go to half-press the shutter, it will tell me the shutter speed that it's about to use for the exposure, but it doesn't provide that information simultaneously with my adjustments of the aperture.

By comparison, my Canon DSLRs, and my Sony DSC-RX100 Mk. 1, always show these values linked. So, as I adjust the aperture I'm instantly able to view the change on shutter speed.

Am I missing something? I get from the above that the AE lock can give me this information, but only if I actually lock the exposure first. It seems awkward that this information can only come up if AE lock is used.

So, as the title asks; have these things been 'fixed' in the G7X Mk.III or is it still functionally the same, software-wise?

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Pap38
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Re: G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

You answered your own question. Use the cameras that do you bidding!

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KEG
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Re: G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

madra wrote:

About 3 or four years back, I [twice!] bought the Canon G7X Mk.2 and twice sent it back as, although I loved the hardware, I just couldn't get on with the way the camera worked in software.

I wrote a post about it at the time:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4168536

One of my main bugbears with the camera was the lack of info in the viewfinder when in either Aperture or Shutter priority mode. ie. as you changed aperture or shutter speed, the viwfinder info didn't update in real time to show you how the other setting was changing. Or as Kenneth123 succintly explained it in that thread:

What is odd to me is that in AV (or TV), the display only shows the value that you're actually adjusting, but not the corresponding related value, until you half-press the shutter. In other words: if I'm shooting in AV, as I adjust the aperture I don't have any real time information on what's happening with the shutter speed. When I go to half-press the shutter, it will tell me the shutter speed that it's about to use for the exposure, but it doesn't provide that information simultaneously with my adjustments of the aperture.

By comparison, my Canon DSLRs, and my Sony DSC-RX100 Mk. 1, always show these values linked. So, as I adjust the aperture I'm instantly able to view the change on shutter speed.

Am I missing something? I get from the above that the AE lock can give me this information, but only if I actually lock the exposure first. It seems awkward that this information can only come up if AE lock is used.

So, as the title asks; have these things been 'fixed' in the G7X Mk.III or is it still functionally the same, software-wise?

I got curious so I tested this on R, M3, M6 mk I and M6 mk II, both R and M6ii have FV so they both support this but the others not.

G7 X III around the same age as R and M6ii so I guess that it is possible for it to have it also but on the other hand, this is something I have never noticed and has never bothered me.

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KEG
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Re: G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

KEG wrote:

madra wrote:

About 3 or four years back, I [twice!] bought the Canon G7X Mk.2 and twice sent it back as, although I loved the hardware, I just couldn't get on with the way the camera worked in software.

I wrote a post about it at the time:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4168536

One of my main bugbears with the camera was the lack of info in the viewfinder when in either Aperture or Shutter priority mode. ie. as you changed aperture or shutter speed, the viwfinder info didn't update in real time to show you how the other setting was changing. Or as Kenneth123 succintly explained it in that thread:

What is odd to me is that in AV (or TV), the display only shows the value that you're actually adjusting, but not the corresponding related value, until you half-press the shutter. In other words: if I'm shooting in AV, as I adjust the aperture I don't have any real time information on what's happening with the shutter speed. When I go to half-press the shutter, it will tell me the shutter speed that it's about to use for the exposure, but it doesn't provide that information simultaneously with my adjustments of the aperture.

By comparison, my Canon DSLRs, and my Sony DSC-RX100 Mk. 1, always show these values linked. So, as I adjust the aperture I'm instantly able to view the change on shutter speed.

Am I missing something? I get from the above that the AE lock can give me this information, but only if I actually lock the exposure first. It seems awkward that this information can only come up if AE lock is used.

So, as the title asks; have these things been 'fixed' in the G7X Mk.III or is it still functionally the same, software-wise?

I got curious so I tested this on R, M3, M6 mk I and M6 mk II, both R and M6ii have FV so they both support this but the others not.

G7 X III around the same age as R and M6ii so I guess that it is possible for it to have it also but on the other hand, this is something I have never noticed and has never bothered me.

For another just fun check I tried my ancient Lumix G3 and it also shows shutterspeed when I change aperture.

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,910
Re: G7X Mk.III --Have the Niggles Been Fixed?

KEG wrote:

KEG wrote:

madra wrote:

About 3 or four years back, I [twice!] bought the Canon G7X Mk.2 and twice sent it back as, although I loved the hardware, I just couldn't get on with the way the camera worked in software.

I wrote a post about it at the time:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4168536

One of my main bugbears with the camera was the lack of info in the viewfinder when in either Aperture or Shutter priority mode. ie. as you changed aperture or shutter speed, the viwfinder info didn't update in real time to show you how the other setting was changing. Or as Kenneth123 succintly explained it in that thread:

What is odd to me is that in AV (or TV), the display only shows the value that you're actually adjusting, but not the corresponding related value, until you half-press the shutter. In other words: if I'm shooting in AV, as I adjust the aperture I don't have any real time information on what's happening with the shutter speed. When I go to half-press the shutter, it will tell me the shutter speed that it's about to use for the exposure, but it doesn't provide that information simultaneously with my adjustments of the aperture.

By comparison, my Canon DSLRs, and my Sony DSC-RX100 Mk. 1, always show these values linked. So, as I adjust the aperture I'm instantly able to view the change on shutter speed.

Am I missing something? I get from the above that the AE lock can give me this information, but only if I actually lock the exposure first. It seems awkward that this information can only come up if AE lock is used.

So, as the title asks; have these things been 'fixed' in the G7X Mk.III or is it still functionally the same, software-wise?

I got curious so I tested this on R, M3, M6 mk I and M6 mk II, both R and M6ii have FV so they both support this but the others not.

G7 X III around the same age as R and M6ii so I guess that it is possible for it to have it also but on the other hand, this is something I have never noticed and has never bothered me.

For another just fun check I tried my ancient Lumix G3 and it also shows shutterspeed when I change aperture.

SX60 behaves the same way as the older cameras.

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