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SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
Canon R5 or R6 Mark II or something else altogether...

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to switch my DSLR kit to the mirrorless world and have been researching the Canon R5 vs. the new Canon R6 Mark II. I would be looking at the following.

Canon R5 ($5,199 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)

or

Canon R6 Mark II ($3,299 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)
RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM ($1,999 CAD)

R5 kit - $6,948 CAD
R6 Mark II kit - $7,047 CAD (+ $99 CAD over R5 kit)

For the R5 kit, I would add on the RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM later. I'm not concerned with video, as I am more interested in photography for the sports I shoot.

  • I currently shoot with the following Nikon kit:
    Nikon D750
    AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR
    AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I know very little about the Canon mirrorless system as I'm currently doing my research. I am also looking at the Nikon Z 7 Mark II, and I've looked into Sony as well, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the various versions of the same model, so I am unsure what would compete with the R5 or R6 Mark II.

I am looking for feedback from those using either camera for sports (I know the R6 Mark II is new). Besides the extra megapixels in the R5, what else would I be giving up with the R6 Mark II?

Thanks in advance

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simjn Regular Member • Posts: 101
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Give it 3 or 4 months when we see a R5 mk ii come out. A minor update like the R6mk ii but with the new accessory shoe and other tweeks. The R6 mk ii came out of nowhere, maybe only 2 months notice on the rumour sites. I'm holding my cash for now.

robgendreau Forum Pro • Posts: 10,917
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SurettePhotography wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to switch my DSLR kit to the mirrorless world and have been researching the Canon R5 vs. the new Canon R6 Mark II. I would be looking at the following.

Canon R5 ($5,199 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)

or

Canon R6 Mark II ($3,299 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)
RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM ($1,999 CAD)

R5 kit - $6,948 CAD
R6 Mark II kit - $7,047 CAD (+ $99 CAD over R5 kit)

For the R5 kit, I would add on the RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM later. I'm not concerned with video, as I am more interested in photography for the sports I shoot.

  • I currently shoot with the following Nikon kit:
    Nikon D750
    AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR
    AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I know very little about the Canon mirrorless system as I'm currently doing my research. I am also looking at the Nikon Z 7 Mark II, and I've looked into Sony as well, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the various versions of the same model, so I am unsure what would compete with the R5 or R6 Mark II.

I am looking for feedback from those using either camera for sports (I know the R6 Mark II is new). Besides the extra megapixels in the R5, what else would I be giving up with the R6 Mark II?

Thanks in advance

I'd always go for the option that gives you more glass, especially since you seem to have no reason to get the R5 vs the R6 II. I'm not sure I'd get those two lenses though. The 70-200 yes, but the other seems to duplicate too much of its range.

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PAntunes Senior Member • Posts: 1,279
Re: Canon R5 or R6 Mark II or something else altogether...
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What kind of sports do you shoot? 
And what are you looking for? Do you need the reach of the lenses, do you need brighter lenses, faster frame rates, what kind of resolution are you interested in?

Avenger20 Regular Member • Posts: 179
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simjn wrote:

Give it 3 or 4 months when we see a R5 mk ii come out. A minor update like the R6mk ii but with the new accessory shoe and other tweeks. The R6 mk ii came out of nowhere, maybe only 2 months notice on the rumour sites.

Indeed, most likely the R5 will get an update next year for this reason. A 3-year update cycle seems reasonable.

OP SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
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robgendreau wrote:

SurettePhotography wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to switch my DSLR kit to the mirrorless world and have been researching the Canon R5 vs. the new Canon R6 Mark II. I would be looking at the following.

Canon R5 ($5,199 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)

or

Canon R6 Mark II ($3,299 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)
RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM ($1,999 CAD)

R5 kit - $6,948 CAD
R6 Mark II kit - $7,047 CAD (+ $99 CAD over R5 kit)

For the R5 kit, I would add on the RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM later. I'm not concerned with video, as I am more interested in photography for the sports I shoot.

  • I currently shoot with the following Nikon kit:
    Nikon D750
    AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR
    AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I know very little about the Canon mirrorless system as I'm currently doing my research. I am also looking at the Nikon Z 7 Mark II, and I've looked into Sony as well, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the various versions of the same model, so I am unsure what would compete with the R5 or R6 Mark II.

I am looking for feedback from those using either camera for sports (I know the R6 Mark II is new). Besides the extra megapixels in the R5, what else would I be giving up with the R6 Mark II?

Thanks in advance

I'd always go for the option that gives you more glass, especially since you seem to have no reason to get the R5 vs the R6 II. I'm not sure I'd get those two lenses though. The 70-200 yes, but the other seems to duplicate too much of its range.

Canon doesn't make a RF 24–70mm F4 L IS USM, thus the reason I choose the RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM, and yes it's overlap with the 70-200.

OP SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
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PAntunes wrote:

What kind of sports do you shoot?
And what are you looking for? Do you need the reach of the lenses, do you need brighter lenses, faster frame rates, what kind of resolution are you interested in?

I shoot ice hockey and baseball for the most part.  Most arena's lighting is horrible, and I have to primarily shoot with my f/4 Nikon glass.  The range is actually perfect for hockey, the 70-200mm f/4 would be extra reach.

However for baseball, 200mm is not enough, and I would typically use the 300mm Nikon lens I have.  Faster frame rates than the D750 is a must, not overly concerned about resolution.  f/2.8 lens are out of my budget.

PAntunes Senior Member • Posts: 1,279
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SurettePhotography wrote:

PAntunes wrote:

What kind of sports do you shoot?
And what are you looking for? Do you need the reach of the lenses, do you need brighter lenses, faster frame rates, what kind of resolution are you interested in?

I shoot ice hockey and baseball for the most part. Most arena's lighting is horrible, and I have to primarily shoot with my f/4 Nikon glass. The range is actually perfect for hockey, the 70-200mm f/4 would be extra reach.

However for baseball, 200mm is not enough, and I would typically use the 300mm Nikon lens I have. Faster frame rates than the D750 is a must, not overly concerned about resolution. f/2.8 lens are out of my budget.

Maybe have a look at the Sony A9 or A9II with the tamron 28-75 2.8 and 70-180 2.8 and see how that fits with your budget.

davev8
davev8 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,833
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SurettePhotography wrote:

PAntunes wrote:

What kind of sports do you shoot?
And what are you looking for? Do you need the reach of the lenses, do you need brighter lenses, faster frame rates, what kind of resolution are you interested in?

I shoot ice hockey and baseball for the most part. Most arena's lighting is horrible, and I have to primarily shoot with my f/4 Nikon glass. The range is actually perfect for hockey, the 70-200mm f/4 would be extra reach.

However for baseball, 200mm is not enough, and I would typically use the 300mm Nikon lens I have. Faster frame rates than the D750 is a must, not overly concerned about resolution. f/2.8 lens are out of my budget.

EF lenses work splendidly on my R6.. i see on ebay secand hand  70-200F2.8Lismkii go for <900GBP

a 400 F5.6L is £500...you will have to check what frame rate you get with these lenses as some EF lens won't give you full FPS

if you get a 1.4X extender as well for the price of a R 70-200f4L you will have 70-200F2.8  A 98-280f4,  A 400f5.6 and a 560F8

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R2D2 Forum Pro • Posts: 26,530
Re: Canon R5 or R6 Mark II or something else altogether...

SurettePhotography wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to switch my DSLR kit to the mirrorless world and have been researching the Canon R5 vs. the new Canon R6 Mark II. I would be looking at the following.

Canon R5 ($5,199 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)

or

Canon R6 Mark II ($3,299 CAD)
RF 24–105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,749 CAD)
RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM ($1,999 CAD)

R5 kit - $6,948 CAD
R6 Mark II kit - $7,047 CAD (+ $99 CAD over R5 kit)

For the R5 kit, I would add on the RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM later. I'm not concerned with video, as I am more interested in photography for the sports I shoot.

  • I currently shoot with the following Nikon kit:
    Nikon D750
    AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR
    AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I know very little about the Canon mirrorless system as I'm currently doing my research. I am also looking at the Nikon Z 7 Mark II, and I've looked into Sony as well, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the various versions of the same model, so I am unsure what would compete with the R5 or R6 Mark II.

I am looking for feedback from those using either camera for sports (I know the R6 Mark II is new). Besides the extra megapixels in the R5, what else would I be giving up with the R6 Mark II?

Thanks in advance

The R6 Mark II would be a pretty strong candidate IMHO.  In fact, it’s going to be my own event/ action/ sports camera (replacing my very capable R6 Mark I).

The R5 will give you more MP (aka more reach), and it has a larger buffer and faster buffer clearing (plus some other improvements).  But you may not need these, esp if you’re not a birder   .

The RF 24-105 f/4 is a pretty capable lens, with reasonably fast AF.  Good IQ.  It covers a lot of ground.

Canon doesn’t have an RF 70-300 yet, but does have a nice EF version.  The RF 70-200 lenses are excellent (but for baseball 300mm would be a lot better).

I’d venture if you have DxO’s Deep Prime noise reduction, you might find the lightweight 100-400 suitable for your field sports, but this depends on your output requirements.

I really love the RF 70-200 f/2.8 for sports, but it is pricey.  It’s so sharp though that you can crop it a fair amount and still retain a nice image.

Well, best of luck to you!

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SG2014 Forum Member • Posts: 84
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I currently use the original EOS R.  I have both the RF 24-105 and RF 70-200 F/4, and they are excellent lenses.  You might also look at the RF 100-400 for use in your baseball games.  I recently acquired the RF 100-400 and overall for the reasonably low cost of this lens, it performs very well.  I also pre-ordered the R6 Mk II.

OP SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the wonderful advice.

I went to a local Henry's this weekend to try out a R5 or R6. They only had the R5 in stock to play with. What I didn't realize is they are having a big sale at the moment. Up to 30% off bodies and lens up to a maximum of $600 CAD. For the R5 that's $600 off, for the F/4 glass that's $600 off.

So the question is this? R5 or R6 Mark II with the 70-200mm F/4L IS USM RF lens. I'm questioning the 24-105mm F/4L IS RF Lens because of the overlap 70-105mm.  I'm going to have to research alternatives.  I know there are more MP in the R5, but what else for the price difference?

Thanks again!

Mike Engles Senior Member • Posts: 2,573
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From what I know about the 24-105, it is no match for the 24-120.

Max5150 Senior Member • Posts: 1,045
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I'm somewhat amazed you're shooting ice hockey with an f/4 lens! What body are you currently using?

OP SurettePhotography Junior Member • Posts: 31
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Max5150 wrote:

I'm somewhat amazed you're shooting ice hockey with an f/4 lens! What body are you currently using?

I've been shooting hockey for well over 15 years, both professionally and now just for fun.  I have no issues shooting f/4 with the D750 (D700 and D300, and Canon kit prior to Nikon), if the lighting the arena allows for it.  If it's a cave, I put the gear away and enjoy the game.  A common setting will be 1/400 f/4 ISO 1600.  My 24-120 f/4 is my primary lens for hockey, because my 100-300 is way too slow at f/5.6-6.3

While the game is fast, if you understand the game and where action happens and when 1/400 or 1/500 is more than enough shutter speed.  I'd love more reach for my new kit that's why the 70-200 f/4 (or f/2.8) is a must.

Max5150 Senior Member • Posts: 1,045
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Interesting.  I usually shoot about 800-1000th f/2.8-3.2 iso 1600. First time tonight with a new lens but prob through the glass. I'm going to try your suggestions at my son's hockey game later today and see what I get.

So besides increased frame rate, why are you looking to switch systems?

davev8
davev8 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,833
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Mike Engles wrote:

From what I know about the 24-105, it is no match for the 24-120.

in what way?

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My 5D IS a MK1 classic
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thunder storm Forum Pro • Posts: 10,139
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Avenger20 wrote:

simjn wrote:

Give it 3 or 4 months when we see a R5 mk ii come out. A minor update like the R6mk ii but with the new accessory shoe and other tweeks. The R6 mk ii came out of nowhere, maybe only 2 months notice on the rumour sites.

Indeed, most likely the R5 will get an update next year for this reason. A 3-year update cycle seems reasonable.

There are possible explanations for the fast upgrade of the R6 which don't imply it will be necessarily the same for the R5.

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Mike Engles Senior Member • Posts: 2,573
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Because I once tested them both in earlier versions. The MK 1 Canon was dreadful and really from what I have seen from reviews the MK 2 not not much better.Whereas the Nikons always were very well regarded and it was my impression when I tested one, albeit some time ago.

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Henrys has $600 off the R5?

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