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Swede61
Swede61 New Member • Posts: 8
Re: An Anniversary...

I purchased the M50 with the 15-45 and 55-200 for $600 at the start of the pandemic. Less than a year later, the M50 Mark ii and the M6 Mark ii were released.  The next good news for the M series came out in 2020, Canon planned to release five new lenses for the M mount:

  • EF-M 15mm f/2 STM
  • EF-M 52mm f/2 STM
  • EF-M 62mm f/4 Macro IS STM
  • EF-M 18-45mm f/2.8-4 IS STM
  • EF-M 100-300mm f/5.6-8 IS STM

I hope the M series gets a new camera with Digic X and these five new lenses are released in 2023.  Canon should understand the popularity of this lineup and the satisfied customer base of vloggers, travelers and hobbyists.  Canon should offer the M series cameras for under $900 for their mirrorless entry level camera sales to continue attracting new camera buyers.  I hope you get your wish in 2023!

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koenkooi Contributing Member • Posts: 919
Re: An Anniversary...

R2D2 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

The M50 Mark II was itself indeed a shock to me.

Would love to see an M6 Mark III "Firmware Update."

My sarcasm detector is not giving a clear reading, but Canon integrating the past 3 years of improvements and releasing that would be a good thing. Depending on how much I'd get for trading in my 'old' M6II, it might be worth it.

I'd still rather see a real update to the M line, like an Mx00 with eye-AF in servo mode and a digic X powered M6III, but I'll take what I can get

Having said that, if the R100 rumours are correct, that would be even more tempting to replace my M6II.

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User1303423862 Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
Re: An Anniversary...

koenkooi wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

The M50 Mark II was itself indeed a shock to me.

Would love to see an M6 Mark III "Firmware Update."

My sarcasm detector is not giving a clear reading, but Canon integrating the past 3 years of improvements and releasing that would be a good thing. Depending on how much I'd get for trading in my 'old' M6II, it might be worth it.

I'd still rather see a real update to the M line, like an Mx00 with eye-AF in servo mode and a digic X powered M6III, but I'll take what I can get

Having said that, if the R100 rumours are correct, that would be even more tempting to replace my M6II.

I'd settle for a nice low mileage M6ii at a reasonable price. There doesn't seem to be any stampede to sell them or EF-M lenses on ebay by RF-S series upgraders. Maybe people are waiting to see what the next crop (sorry) of lens releases looks like. We know there won't be any Sigma or Viltrox offerings...

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m100
m100 Senior Member • Posts: 2,048
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User1303423862 wrote:

koenkooi wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

The M50 Mark II was itself indeed a shock to me.

Would love to see an M6 Mark III "Firmware Update."

My sarcasm detector is not giving a clear reading, but Canon integrating the past 3 years of improvements and releasing that would be a good thing. Depending on how much I'd get for trading in my 'old' M6II, it might be worth it.

I'd still rather see a real update to the M line, like an Mx00 with eye-AF in servo mode and a digic X powered M6III, but I'll take what I can get

Having said that, if the R100 rumours are correct, that would be even more tempting to replace my M6II.

I'd settle for a nice low mileage M6ii at a reasonable price. There doesn't seem to be any stampede to sell them or EF-M lenses on ebay by RF-S series upgraders. Maybe people are waiting to see what the next crop (sorry) of lens releases looks like. We know there won't be any Sigma or Viltrox offerings...

Almost all of my keeper lenses came from MPB.

They have become my favorite camera store.

I buy ones that say like new and they mean it !

I like the spot focus on my 7D a lot. Reason I keep it I guess.

Spot focus on the M6II is better. If you like to use spot focus then you will like the M6II.

Mine nails focus with the 32mm mounted using spot focus and sometimes servo.

M6II is a dream camera with the 32mm. 32mm stays mounted on mine.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
Re: An Anniversary...

User1303423862 wrote:

koenkooi wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

The M50 Mark II was itself indeed a shock to me.

Would love to see an M6 Mark III "Firmware Update."

My sarcasm detector is not giving a clear reading, but Canon integrating the past 3 years of improvements and releasing that would be a good thing. Depending on how much I'd get for trading in my 'old' M6II, it might be worth it.

I'd still rather see a real update to the M line, like an Mx00 with eye-AF in servo mode and a digic X powered M6III, but I'll take what I can get

Having said that, if the R100 rumours are correct, that would be even more tempting to replace my M6II.

I'd settle for a nice low mileage M6ii at a reasonable price. There doesn't seem to be any stampede to sell them or EF-M lenses on ebay by RF-S series upgraders. Maybe people are waiting to see what the next crop (sorry) of lens releases looks like. We know there won't be any Sigma or Viltrox offerings...

The majority of the people buying RF-S are likely coming from crop DSLRs and not from the M system.  The M6 II was never anywhere near as popular as the M50/M50 II, so it is not surprising that there is not a flood of used copies on the market.

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User1303423862 Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
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m100 wrote:

User1303423862 wrote:

I'd settle for a nice low mileage M6ii at a reasonable price. There doesn't seem to be any stampede to sell them or EF-M lenses on ebay by RF-S series upgraders. Maybe people are waiting to see what the next crop (sorry) of lens releases looks like. We know there won't be any Sigma or Viltrox offerings...

Almost all of my keeper lenses came from MPB.

They have become my favorite camera store.

I buy ones that say like new and they mean it !

I like the spot focus on my 7D a lot. Reason I keep it I guess.

Spot focus on the M6II is better. If you like to use spot focus then you will like the M6II.

Mine nails focus with the 32mm mounted using spot focus and sometimes servo.

M6II is a dream camera with the 32mm. 32mm stays mounted on mine.

The focus on my 28 f/3.5 is very reliable too. I'll get myself an M6ii and then think about another lens once I've sold a few more unused items on ebay. At the moment, I'm leaning towards a lens I can use on both RF and EF-M mounts via EF adapters. I have my eye on a fast focusing nano-usm 70-300. I would love a 32 f/1.4 though... Must sell more stuff...

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Alan Sh Senior Member • Posts: 2,757
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I've got 2 M50's with most of the M lenses. I have no intention of 'upgrading' to the R7/10 because my M50's do everything I need.

I'd quite like an M50 style body with the M6ii internals - but if it doesn't come, I won't suddenly turn to Fuji or Sony in a temper tantrum

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Daniele200 New Member • Posts: 6
Re: An Anniversary...

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

Unfortunately Canon has stopped production of the eos m200.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-has-discontinued-another-eos-m-camera/

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

https://photorumors.com/2022/10/17/canon-m50-mark-ii-kiss-m2-and-powershot-g9-x-mark-ii-cameras-listed-as-discontinued-in-japan/

I don't understand Canon's choices. I am very disappointed.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
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Daniele200 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

Unfortunately Canon has stopped production of the eos m200.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-has-discontinued-another-eos-m-camera/

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

https://photorumors.com/2022/10/17/canon-m50-mark-ii-kiss-m2-and-powershot-g9-x-mark-ii-cameras-listed-as-discontinued-in-japan/

I don't understand Canon's choices. I am very disappointed.

Canon doesn't really have a choice. The camera market is a small fraction of what it used to be. Canon could continue on with four different mounts and only a couple current bodies for each mount, or Canon can consolidate everything under a single mount with several bodies. If Canon can only manage two new bodies and four new lenses per year, option 1 means scattered and sporadic updates across multiple mounts while option 2 looks like a healthy system with continued growth.

m100
m100 Senior Member • Posts: 2,048
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nnowak wrote:

Daniele200 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

Unfortunately Canon has stopped production of the eos m200.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-has-discontinued-another-eos-m-camera/

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

https://photorumors.com/2022/10/17/canon-m50-mark-ii-kiss-m2-and-powershot-g9-x-mark-ii-cameras-listed-as-discontinued-in-japan/

I don't understand Canon's choices. I am very disappointed.

Canon doesn't really have a choice. The camera market is a small fraction of what it used to be. Canon could continue on with four different mounts and only a couple current bodies for each mount, or Canon can consolidate everything under a single mount with several bodies. If Canon can only manage two new bodies and four new lenses per year, option 1 means scattered and sporadic updates across multiple mounts while option 2 looks like a healthy system with continued growth.

Cameras are more popular than ever.

Small cameras with small lenses that will fit in your pocket are the most popular.

And they will keep becoming more powerful ?

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Daniele200 wrote:

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

I don't see Canon discontinuing that until there is an R in the same price range. Perhaps the rumored R100 will do that.

nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
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m100 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Daniele200 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

Unfortunately Canon has stopped production of the eos m200.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-has-discontinued-another-eos-m-camera/

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

https://photorumors.com/2022/10/17/canon-m50-mark-ii-kiss-m2-and-powershot-g9-x-mark-ii-cameras-listed-as-discontinued-in-japan/

I don't understand Canon's choices. I am very disappointed.

Canon doesn't really have a choice. The camera market is a small fraction of what it used to be. Canon could continue on with four different mounts and only a couple current bodies for each mount, or Canon can consolidate everything under a single mount with several bodies. If Canon can only manage two new bodies and four new lenses per year, option 1 means scattered and sporadic updates across multiple mounts while option 2 looks like a healthy system with continued growth.

Cameras are more popular than ever.

Small cameras with small lenses that will fit in your pocket are the most popular.

And they will keep becoming more powerful ?

I am assuming you are speaking for yourself because every bit of sales data available shows the exact opposite of what you wrote, or are you referring to smartphones?

nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
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justmeMN wrote:

Daniele200 wrote:

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

I don't see Canon discontinuing that until there is an R in the same price range. Perhaps the rumored R100 will do that.

The M200 is following the exact same pattern the M6 II went through when it was discontinued.  First, there are rumors the model is discontinued.  Second, the models is listed as discontinued on the Canon Japan webshop.  Finally, the camera is listed as discontinued on the Official Canon Global Site.  The M6 II hit the final stage a few months ago and the M200 is now at the second stage.

The M50 II is a bit murkier and is sort of at stage 1.5 out of 3.  On the Canon Japan webshop, body only and 15-45mm kit options are all discontinued for the M50 II.  The only option available for purchase is the two lens kit consisting of the 15-45mm and 55-200mm, but those kits are out of stock with a 2 week estimated delivery.

As for lenses, none of the EF-M lenses show any indications of being discontinued, aside from the EF-M 18-55mm of course.

m100
m100 Senior Member • Posts: 2,048
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nnowak wrote:

m100 wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Daniele200 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

Unfortunately Canon has stopped production of the eos m200.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-has-discontinued-another-eos-m-camera/

The m50 mark II is also at risk.

https://photorumors.com/2022/10/17/canon-m50-mark-ii-kiss-m2-and-powershot-g9-x-mark-ii-cameras-listed-as-discontinued-in-japan/

I don't understand Canon's choices. I am very disappointed.

Canon doesn't really have a choice. The camera market is a small fraction of what it used to be. Canon could continue on with four different mounts and only a couple current bodies for each mount, or Canon can consolidate everything under a single mount with several bodies. If Canon can only manage two new bodies and four new lenses per year, option 1 means scattered and sporadic updates across multiple mounts while option 2 looks like a healthy system with continued growth.

Cameras are more popular than ever.

Small cameras with small lenses that will fit in your pocket are the most popular.

And they will keep becoming more powerful ?

I am assuming you are speaking for yourself because every bit of sales data available shows the exact opposite of what you wrote, or are you referring to smartphones?

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Pro camera system

48MP Main Ultra Wide Telephoto Photonic Engine for incredible detail and color
Autofocus on TrueDepth front camera.

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Yes that is what I am talking about.

Most people use the small cameras that are built into their phones to take pictures ?

That is what I saw at the car show this month.

With the good light they got some great shots ?

The Viltrox 23mm looks crazy sharp at f/5.6. Am thinking about using just that one lens at a car show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cxjHg12_k

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Alastair Norcross
Alastair Norcross Veteran Member • Posts: 9,874
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User1303423862 wrote:

m100 wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

Today is the two year anniversary of Canon's announcement of the M50 Mark II, which was just a minor update of the 2018 version.

I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice if Canon "shocked the world" by releasing a new M model.

I really like mine !

I already had a M50 but I bought it to see how improved the focus features really were.

My M50II does track better than my M6II and has better eye focus.

That is some 8 MB of firmware improvement !

M50II will mount my 11-22mm. 32mm and 56mm lenses too. What a big plus !

Took it to the Plant City car show yesterday ! No regrets !

If you were upgrading from an earlier M50 or M6 today, would you get the M50 II or the M6 II ? I currently have an M6 (and EVF-DC1) and I'm trying to decide which to get.

Better AF is certainly high on the list of wants. Resolution I'm not too hung up on, 24MP is ok for me. Can focus point be selected using screen as touch-pad with the M6 II while using an optional EVF?

Yes. This was one of many upgrades over the M6. I love touch and drag for focus point selection.

I haven't found a way to do that on the M6.

You can’t do it on the M6. The only respect, in my opinion, in which the M5 was better than the M6.

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User1303423862 Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
Re: An Anniversary...

Alastair Norcross wrote:

User1303423862 wrote:

If you were upgrading from an earlier M50 or M6 today, would you get the M50 II or the M6 II ? I currently have an M6 (and EVF-DC1) and I'm trying to decide which to get.

Better AF is certainly high on the list of wants. Resolution I'm not too hung up on, 24MP is ok for me. Can focus point be selected using screen as touch-pad with the M6 II while using an optional EVF?

Yes. This was one of many upgrades over the M6. I love touch and drag for focus point selection.

I haven't found a way to do that on the M6.

You can’t do it on the M6. The only respect, in my opinion, in which the M5 was better than the M6.

Thanks Alastair. My other question is about how much faster AF is on the M6 II over the M6. I just bought an EF 70-300 IS II USM. The nano USM focus motor system is blazingly fast on my EOS R, but on the M6, it doesn't focus any quicker than the older EF-S 55-250 IS STM. What can I expect if I upgrade to the M6 II ??

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