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phazelag
phazelag Veteran Member • Posts: 3,376
Critique and question
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I totally don't mind critiques.   Critiques have been super helpful over the years.

All taken with M50 with with Loawa 9mm F2.8 Zero D.  Which does not register in Exif .   Set to F11 and infinity focus.   
First photo was my favorite, second photo the Zero D shows quite of bit of D in the lower left airplane.    The 3rd photo is for reference to see the plane straight and undistorted.

I did download and apply the Venus Optics Lens profile but that only seemed to correct minimal vignetting and some aberrations but does not seem to correct distortion.   Might not be possible as manual distortion correction didn't really help.   Its not a huge deal, this lens is great and rarely has this issue, but I would like to know what caused this.   Was it my angle to the plane and just have to live with it?   Can it be corrected?   Also the photo was cropped so it not even in the far corners.  
I would like to know if the first photo is appealing or is the plane just too far away to make a good subject?  Kind of reminds me Icarus! And the lady is very happy looking.
I also notice DPReview can not present photos great in full screen mode on occasion.   Let me know if these look clear when you see them.

Thanks in Advance.

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phazelag
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User1303423862 Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
Re: Critique and question

phazelag wrote:

I totally don't mind critiques. Critiques have been super helpful over the years.

All taken with M50 with with Loawa 9mm F2.8 Zero D. Which does not register in Exif . Set to F11 and infinity focus.
First photo was my favorite, second photo the Zero D shows quite of bit of D in the lower left airplane. The 3rd photo is for reference to see the plane straight and undistorted.

I did download and apply the Venus Optics Lens profile but that only seemed to correct minimal vignetting and some aberrations but does not seem to correct distortion. Might not be possible as manual distortion correction didn't really help. Its not a huge deal, this lens is great and rarely has this issue, but I would like to know what caused this. Was it my angle to the plane and just have to live with it? Can it be corrected? Also the photo was cropped so it not even in the far corners.
I would like to know if the first photo is appealing or is the plane just too far away to make a good subject? Kind of reminds me Icarus! And the lady is very happy looking.
I also notice DPReview can not present photos great in full screen mode on occasion. Let me know if these look clear when you see them.

They look fine on my monitor, nicely exposed, good photos. Others will have more knowledge on rectifying the distortion than me.

I think my approach would have been to take a zoom lens to an airshow. For 'setting the scene' I'd have orientated to portrait at wide angle and taken a series of shots to stitch together using software later. That would have dealt (pretty much) with distortion issues.

Then I'd have been able to zoom in for the 'Icarus' shot to get more resolution. I could have used the tele end of the zoom to get more detailed shots of individual planes too.

The main thing is that you enjoyed the event, and got some memorable captures with your super-wide lens.

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JustUs7 Senior Member • Posts: 4,327
Re: Critique and question
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I take Zero D to mean vertical lines will be vertical (not bowed).  But not all wide angle distortion can be prevented.  Things close to the camera and at the edges of the frame will be stretched when using ultra wide lenses.  Corrections don’t fix this.  Anything that you don’t want distorted, try to keep toward the middle of the frame.

To aid in keeping vertical lines perpendicular (vs converging) turn your level on in the EVF and keep the camera level and with no tilt.  So the green line appears all the way across the level.  Not just at the sides.

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phazelag
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Re: Critique and question

User1303423862 wrote:

phazelag wrote:

I totally don't mind critiques. Critiques have been super helpful over the years.

All taken with M50 with with Loawa 9mm F2.8 Zero D. Which does not register in Exif . Set to F11 and infinity focus.
First photo was my favorite, second photo the Zero D shows quite of bit of D in the lower left airplane. The 3rd photo is for reference to see the plane straight and undistorted.

I did download and apply the Venus Optics Lens profile but that only seemed to correct minimal vignetting and some aberrations but does not seem to correct distortion. Might not be possible as manual distortion correction didn't really help. Its not a huge deal, this lens is great and rarely has this issue, but I would like to know what caused this. Was it my angle to the plane and just have to live with it? Can it be corrected? Also the photo was cropped so it not even in the far corners.
I would like to know if the first photo is appealing or is the plane just too far away to make a good subject? Kind of reminds me Icarus! And the lady is very happy looking.
I also notice DPReview can not present photos great in full screen mode on occasion. Let me know if these look clear when you see them.

They look fine on my monitor, nicely exposed, good photos. Others will have more knowledge on rectifying the distortion than me.

I think my approach would have been to take a zoom lens to an airshow. For 'setting the scene' I'd have orientated to portrait at wide angle and taken a series of shots to stitch together using software later. That would have dealt (pretty much) with distortion issues.

Then I'd have been able to zoom in for the 'Icarus' shot to get more resolution. I could have used the tele end of the zoom to get more detailed shots of individual planes too.

The main thing is that you enjoyed the event, and got some memorable captures with your super-wide lens.

Thank you for your feedback!
I also had the 11-22 with me and I took most of the shots with an R7 and RF100-400.  The M50 was mainly to get another perspectives.  So I was thinking like you would have.  

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Re: Critique and question

JustUs7 wrote:

I take Zero D to mean vertical lines will be vertical (not bowed). But not all wide angle distortion can be prevented. Things close to the camera and at the edges of the frame will be stretched when using ultra wide lenses. Corrections don’t fix this. Anything that you don’t want distorted, try to keep toward the middle of the frame.

To aid in keeping vertical lines perpendicular (vs converging) turn your level on in the EVF and keep the camera level and with no tilt. So the green line appears all the way across the level. Not just at the sides.

Thank you.   Thats helpful.

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User1303423862 Senior Member • Posts: 1,070
Re: Critique and question

phazelag wrote:

User1303423862 wrote:

phazelag wrote:

I totally don't mind critiques. Critiques have been super helpful over the years.

All taken with M50 with with Loawa 9mm F2.8 Zero D. Which does not register in Exif . Set to F11 and infinity focus.
First photo was my favorite, second photo the Zero D shows quite of bit of D in the lower left airplane. The 3rd photo is for reference to see the plane straight and undistorted.

I did download and apply the Venus Optics Lens profile but that only seemed to correct minimal vignetting and some aberrations but does not seem to correct distortion. Might not be possible as manual distortion correction didn't really help. Its not a huge deal, this lens is great and rarely has this issue, but I would like to know what caused this. Was it my angle to the plane and just have to live with it? Can it be corrected? Also the photo was cropped so it not even in the far corners.
I would like to know if the first photo is appealing or is the plane just too far away to make a good subject? Kind of reminds me Icarus! And the lady is very happy looking.
I also notice DPReview can not present photos great in full screen mode on occasion. Let me know if these look clear when you see them.

They look fine on my monitor, nicely exposed, good photos. Others will have more knowledge on rectifying the distortion than me.

I think my approach would have been to take a zoom lens to an airshow. For 'setting the scene' I'd have orientated to portrait at wide angle and taken a series of shots to stitch together using software later. That would have dealt (pretty much) with distortion issues.

Then I'd have been able to zoom in for the 'Icarus' shot to get more resolution. I could have used the tele end of the zoom to get more detailed shots of individual planes too.

The main thing is that you enjoyed the event, and got some memorable captures with your super-wide lens.

Thank you for your feedback!
I also had the 11-22 with me and I took most of the shots with an R7 and RF100-400. The M50 was mainly to get another perspectives. So I was thinking like you would have.

Haha! OK. I'd have taken my M6 and EF-S 50-250 IS + Rexley special 2X TC for an 800mm (equivalent) reach, so I could see which brand of cigarettes the pilots were smoking.

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Jayson A Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: Critique and question

Aren’t you worried about burning your sensor by pointing it at the direct sun light that?

phazelag
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Sun Damage.

It’s a good question.    But my answer is not really.    I have looked this up and it’s for sure a risk, but I generally only have it pointed that way a few seconds at a time.  I have done it for years with many cameras with no damage.

I am careful to make these brief but I acknowledge it could cause damage

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Jayson A Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: Sun Damage.

phazelag wrote:

It’s a good question. But my answer is not really. I have looked this up and it’s for sure a risk, but I generally only have it pointed that way a few seconds at a time. I have done it for years with many cameras with no damage.

I am careful to make these brief but I acknowledge it could cause damage

Mirrorless cameras are very different from DSLRs in the way that the sensor is always exposed to light, whereas DSLRs have a mirror in front that flips up for only a split second while the light hits the sensor.

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