Will Sigma ever release the 18-50mm F2.8 zoom for EF-M?

Sittatunga wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

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Unfortunately for us, the time to release this lens would have been 5 years ago.

The initial announcement that it was coming came less than a year ago. The loss of the IS isn't made up for by the extra ⅓-2 stops speed over the EF-M 18-55mm which had 10% more reach, and remains the only EF-M lens discontinued by Canon.

As thunder storm says, if you want speed, go for the Sigma 18-35mm, but that lens misses the point of EOS M for me.

You can leave the heavy lens in the trunk of the car and only use it in the restaurant, while enjoying a compact 15-45mm or reach of the 18-150mm the rest of the day. You can also use it at home only.  As such it can save you from buying a second full frame system next to your M system.

Of course you can have a full frame system making the 18-35mm f/1.8 redundant, but in that case you would have to bring that full frame system anyway, which means an extra lens+camera, and that combination will be easily more heavy than the 18-35mm + adapter, not to mention the costs.  I do have that full frame system, but I'm considering that 18-35mm not to be redundant for that very reason.

The Sigma f/2.8 is only 280 grams of course but the 15-45mm is 130 grams.  The Sigma is more than twice the weight, and the size difference is significant too.  The Sigma f/1.8 is crazy heavy of course, however, if the lens is only used short periods when not walking around it allows you to make the most of your ILC without having the weight factor getting too much impact.  280 vs 130 grams for the walk around option and no IS can have more impact.  It can be 150 grams less * 6 hours and  720 grams more * 5 times * 3 minutes. When shooting an ILC it's not just weight, it's weight*time.

You can find those sigma f/1.8 zooms used being cheap as chips (300 bucks or so), although the launch of the R7 might raise the demand and therefor the price a little. The kitlens is almost for free and often owned anyway, so the true light weight option is already there. The Sigma f/2.8 for Sony is 500 bucks.

I can perfectly understand the f/2.8 zoom can be the better option.  However, there are more factors than just a single weight number.

Sittatunga wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

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Unfortunately for us, the time to release this lens would have been 5 years ago.

The initial announcement that it was coming came less than a year ago.

Yup, way too late!

The loss of the IS isn't made up for by the extra ⅓-2 stops speed over the EF-M 18-55mm

For ME it is (I shoot a lot of stuff that moves, where IS wouldn’t help). There’s also the benefit of increased DOF control with the faster lens.

which had 10% more reach,

I’ve been OK with 45mm even.

and remains the only EF-M lens discontinued by Canon.

Fortunately I have one of the EF-M 18-55 lenses, and it’s a very useful lens (for what I use it for). Every lens has its particular strengths and weaknesses, and of course part of our job as photographers is to play to those.

As thunder storm says, if you want speed, go for the Sigma 18-35mm,

For M it is indeed the fastest, however…

but that lens misses the point of EOS M for me.

Exactly!

And OTOH that new compact Sigma would split the Papa Bear and Baby Bear just perfectly down the middle!

R2

Well, the ef-m 56mm has distortion correction on a Canon camera.

R2D2 wrote:

And OTOH that new compact Sigma would split the Papa Bear and Baby Bear just perfectly down the middle!

R2

Yep. The 11-22, Sigma 18-50 2.8 and my Rexley modded 2X + 55-250 would make my ideal 3 zoom setup...