What cameras do video not in h.264 or h.265 format?

During my research to upgrade my PC for video editing, I learned that the problem I encountered (stutter in fast forward and fast backward playback) has more to do with the H.264 codec than with my PC hardware.

Someone suggested that proxy is an integral part of a professional video editing workflow.

That makes me wonder, is there any cameras (for serious amateur, prosumers) that record in ProRes or DNxHD codec?

PS: Actually, after posting the above, I found that some cameras would record the high resolution H.264 or H.265 while simultaneously recording proxy so I don't have to go through the transcoding.

Now what cameras do that? GH6?

DMKAlex wrote:

During my research to upgrade my PC for video editing, I learned that the problem I encountered (stutter in fast forward and fast backward playback) has more to do with the H.264 codec than with my PC hardware.

Someone suggested that proxy is an integral part of a professional video editing workflow.

That makes me wonder, is there any cameras (for serious amateur, prosumers) that record in ProRes or DNxHD codec?

PS: Actually, after posting the above, I found that some cameras would record the high resolution H.264 or H.265 while simultaneously recording proxy so I don't have to go through the transcoding.

Now what cameras do that? GH6?

Sony fx3 for proxy recording. You can even choose 10bit or 8bit, H264 or H265 codecs for the simultaneously recorded proxies.

Another option is to shoot in All-I rather than Long GOP. Those files are much easier to edit than the Long GOP codecs you are thinking of. The fx3 has that option also, and is the preferred Netflix option btw.

264 shouldn't be that hard on modern hardware.  The comment that it's challenging was true in 2014 but shouldn't be killing you today.

The Z9 does ProRes internal. If you use an Atmos you can pick various options. The Blackmagic recorder route gives you BRaw instead of Prores raw.

Your current GH5 can record ALL-l 400Mbps, and I got the impression it is similar to certain ProRes formats. It is also easier to edit than compressed H.264/265.

if you are building a PC, then consider selecting such a CPU/GPU that supports your prefered codec, see https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/What-H-264-and-H-265-Hardware-Decoding-is-Supported-in-Premiere-Pro-2120/

It started out as my search for perfection in my editing experience. In a lot of way, I was fooled by some of the Youtube tutorials where the OP scrub their clips back and forth at high speed and yet the playback was creamy smooth (now I am convinced that most of them were transcoded footages).

I built my PC a couple of years ago to make my video/editing hobby fun. And it did in a lot of way. But I was annoyed that it stuttered when I fast forward/backward and scrub the source in search of the exact moment.

It's not easy to get a full pictures of the situation and the potential scenario. But the exercise brings me to realize that I can forever chase for the perfection which may or may not be that much better than what I have.

The editing experience is a combination of . . .

• Codec of the camera
• Software (NLE)
• Hareware: GPU/CPU/RAM
• Workflow

Codec: Since most of the consumer grade camera are all recording in H.264 or H.265, it is not something I can change.

Software: I have dabbled into Resolve (free version), but I am still a lot more comfortable with PPCC. I don't think I will change too soon.

Hardware: When the hype is cooled off, my current PC setup is really not that bad. I can do most of the tasks with ease. Well, if there is a good deal on the RTX 3060ti I might still jump for it.

Workflow: I built my PC because I wanted to avoid transcoding my 4K videos for editing. My current setup can handle most tasks without transcoding with the exception of some isolated clips with fast action that I wanted to pin down the exact moment. That's far and few in between. When that occurs, I am going to quickly transcode that one particular footage and do my scrubbing. I guess that's is the best of both world solution.

Thank you all for contributing to my education.