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Night photography tips

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Marco Nero
Marco Nero Veteran Member • Posts: 7,582
Re: Dunlin

Dunlin wrote:

Amazing photos Marco....

Did you use the original M6 or the M6 II?

The EOS M6.  The EOS M6 II has been unavailable here, even prior to discontinuation by Canon.  I had plans to buy one but the local retailers ran out of stock over a year ago, with the exception of a few of the silver models.  But I expect we may see another model someday further down the track.

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Marco Nero.

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Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,593
Re: Dunlin

Marco Nero wrote:

Dunlin wrote:

Amazing photos Marco....

Did you use the original M6 or the M6 II?

The EOS M6. The EOS M6 II has been unavailable here, even prior to discontinuation by Canon. I had plans to buy one but the local retailers ran out of stock over a year ago, with the exception of a few of the silver models. But I expect we may see another model someday further down the track.

It's good to see someone coming up with good  (amazing) results from an EOS-M that isn't the M6 mk2.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: Dunlin - EOS M10

12mm f/2 @ f/2.8, 30×30s combined in StarStax

The source of the light dome was 150 million kilometres away, this was the darkest 15 minutes of the summer solstice, hence the blue sky.  The wall was built exactly 1900 years ago, the sycamore is nowhere near that old. I was really annoyed by those lads coming dien the hill with their bright torch.

Dunlin Senior Member • Posts: 2,593
Re: Dunlin - EOS M10

Sittatunga wrote:

12mm f/2 @ f/2.8, 30×30s combined in StarStax

The source of the light dome was 150 million kilometres away, this was the darkest 15 minutes of the summer solstice, hence the blue sky. The wall was built exactly 1900 years ago, the sycamore is nowhere near that old. I was really annoyed by those lads coming dien the hill with their bright torch.

Cool! I think that flashlight adds a little something extra. 

How much that sort of lens cost 2nd hand?

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I tried doing a very basic star trail at home (I've done it once or twice before) with my 7D and kit lens last night; the battery was basically empty. I managed to get about 3 secs from bulb before the camera turned off.

If it's another clear night tonight I'll try again.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: Dunlin - EOS M10

Dunlin wrote:

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How much that sort of lens cost 2nd hand?

The Samyang lens I used seems to go for about £150. E mount or X mount won't fit as it's a mirrorless lens, and I'd want a guarantee for a second-hand Samyang.

Apologies for the autocorrupt, which I can't edit now.

I tried doing a very basic star trail at home (I've done it once or twice before) with my 7D and kit lens last night; the battery was basically empty. I managed to get about 3 secs from bulb before the camera turned off.

If it's another clear night tonight I'll try again.

OP Nipar Junior Member • Posts: 28
Re: Night photography tips

Dear friends,

I just come back from Uzbekistan and sadly I couldn't take any milky way pic in the night we were in the desert because a full and brighty moon...

I also tried to get some "torch beam" pic without success indeed.

Anyway: most of the time I shot with the 32mm.

I changed extremely frequently to 11-22, that's why I was wondering...in the last years did some fast lens (low F or fixed F) into the range 11-32 come out?

I'd like to get the same beautiful pics of the 32mm but having a better range in order to avoid changing lens each two minutes.

Any suggestion?

Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: Night photography tips

Nipar wrote:

Dear friends,

I just come back from Uzbekistan and sadly I couldn't take any milky way pic in the night we were in the desert because a full and brighty moon...

I also tried to get some "torch beam" pic without success indeed.

Anyway: most of the time I shot with the 32mm.

I changed extremely frequently to 11-22, that's why I was wondering...in the last years did some fast lens (low F or fixed F) into the range 11-32 come out?

I'd like to get the same beautiful pics of the 32mm but having a better range in order to avoid changing lens each two minutes.

Any suggestion?

The EF-M 22mm f/2 duplicates the long end of your 11-22mm but is three stops (8×) faster. You're better off without AF for nightscapes and focus by wire is an embarrassment, so it's worth looking at cheap Chinese and Korean manual focus lenses. The Samyang (alias Rokinon) 12mm f/2 that I used for that star trail further up the thread is excellent in EF-M mount - there are now cheaper Chinese 12mm f/2 lenses with metal bodies, but I don't know how good they are.  My Samyang 21mm /1.4 is even better than the Canon EF-M 22mm  (I found it better for stars than the RF 35mm f/1.8 on full-frame), but it was quite expensive and the British importer no longer lists it, though Samyang still do.

OP Nipar Junior Member • Posts: 28
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Dear friends,

After some months at the end I gave up and I bought a... EF-M 22mm 

I didn't try it yet but something suggests me I'll definitively stop using the EF-M 11-22 and I am a bit sad because of that, because a lens left at home is a lens not used; and it has been my first gear.

But if the 22mm has the same colors and same brightness of the 32mm - then I am already in love with it.

Now in my travel backpack I'll carry 22mm, 32mm, 55-250.

Larry Rexley Senior Member • Posts: 1,238
Re: Night photography tips

Nipar wrote:

Dear friends,

After some months at the end I gave up and I bought a... EF-M 22mm

I didn't try it yet but something suggests me I'll definitively stop using the EF-M 11-22 and I am a bit sad because of that, because a lens left at home is a lens not used; and it has been my first gear.

But if the 22mm has the same colors and same brightness of the 32mm - then I am already in love with it.

Now in my travel backpack I'll carry 22mm, 32mm, 55-250.

I think you'll be happy with the lens.

When I initially got the 22, I already had the 11-22 and thought like you do ---- why have both, aren't they similar? After quite a bit of use I have found that in fact they do have quite different uses.

The 11-22 is a great walkaround 'daytime' lens --- also doubling as an excellent ultrawide, a focal range I use a lot (near the 11mm end). Sometimes I shoot video with 2 bodies: one has the 11-22 and the other either the 18-150, EF-M 55-200, or EF-S 55-250 IS STM.

I also often carry the 22mm lens with me if I know my shooting will extend near or past sunset. I find the lens so small that I can almost always carry it along with 3 or 4 other lenses, plus 2 M6ii bodies in a medium-sized camera bag... the 22 fits into side pockets in most my camera bags. Only the 1.5x teleconverter, the Viltrox speed booster, or the Laowa 9mm f2.8 lens would also fit in those side pockets. All other lenses need to take up 'slots' in the main camera bag compartment.

The 22mm also makes a great street photography and travel lens. I often go out with just an M200 or M6ii body with the 22mm on it ---- the combo easily fits into a jacket pocket or even gym short pockets, and nobody even knows I have a camera with me until it comes out!

For me 22mm is the 'perfect' versatile 'normal' focal length. When I was shooting with film cameras, 35mm was by favorite 'normal' focal length... I always found 50mm to be a little too cramped.

The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is an incredible 'night lens', being faster than the 22mm and having less flare -- but it's a more expensive lens, and it's the widest and heaviest native EF-M lens and so it has to be a very conscious decision to put it in the camera bag. I will bring it only when I know no other lens can do the job it can do.

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