Grey haze over my scans

Started Sep 15, 2022 | Questions
Yaoier New Member • Posts: 9
Grey haze over my scans

Hey, so I've just received my scans of a B&W film (roll of Fomapan 400) and I was very excited until I found out that all of my photos have a weird haze over them. There is basically no contrast/no deep blacks and they are all grey unlike my other scans. I was wondering if it was due to my error or the lab made a mistake when scanning or developing the film. I attached photos from a different roll where I didn't have this problem as well.

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D Saul
D Saul Contributing Member • Posts: 509
Re: Grey haze over my scans

Yaoier wrote:

Hey... basically no contrast/no deep blacks

You answered your own question.

Just reprocess the (bad) scans you got and add contrast.

tomnorth
tomnorth Senior Member • Posts: 1,308
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What do the negatives look like? If they are thin then I’d say the roll was underexposed. If they look normal with decent density then I’d say the scans are bad.

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Autonerd Senior Member • Posts: 3,412
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tomnorth wrote:

What do the negatives look like? If they are thin then I’d say the roll was underexposed. If they look normal with decent density then I’d say the scans are bad.

My thoughts exactly -- though I would think that if the negs were underexposed, the scanner would have tried to correct.

Yaoier, do you have the negatives? Snap some pics of them with a phone or digicam, preferably on a light background (a white screen on your computer will do) and that'll help us troubleshoot.

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OP Yaoier New Member • Posts: 9
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These are the negatives (on the left is the one with the haze, on the right one is a roll that had no problems)

Tomm111 Senior Member • Posts: 2,276
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Yaoier wrote:

These are the negatives (on the left is the one with the haze, on the right one is a roll that had no problems)

Looks to me that the film was externally exposed in a fairly even fashion, so it wouldn't be a light leak, cameraor cassette. Could be a bad roll of film or a problem with the processing, I am thinking the former. You wouldn't still have the boxes for the lot number? (I know I wouldn't). It would be interesting if the 2 rolls were from the same lot.

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OP Yaoier New Member • Posts: 9
Re: Grey haze over my scans

They weren't, the rolls were processed by two different labs. This one, I was just trying for the first time and the one on the right is from a lab that I often go to.

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The negs on the left have somehow been fogged. You can see that the space around the sprockets has been exposed. Given that it’s uniformly fogged my guess would be that it’s not a camera light leak, especially since the other roll looks just fine. It looks like the roll was exposed to light in the processing. Unless this is a long expired roll of film and it got fogged over time.

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Tomm111 Senior Member • Posts: 2,276
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Yeah, I don't think it it was the lab, probably the film, the fogging is too even. If you were processing the film yourself I would have thought your dark space wasn't tight. Tell the lab your film is evenly fogged show them the image of the two films. Did you buy the 2 rolls at the same time? If you have more rolls around from a similar time, I would shoot it and get it processed. One more idea did you fly with this film?

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Yaoier wrote:

They weren't, the rolls were processed by two different labs. This one, I was just trying for the first time and the one on the right is from a lab that I often go to.

So, the bad one is a new lab, same film batch as that on the right? If that is correct, I would say the lab fogged that whole roll.

Someone else asked about air travel, and that was the other thing that I wondered about. Fogged by airport x-ray?

The density in the area around the sprocket holes should match roll to roll when the film is the same. In your case, it does not which is why I think it got fogged someplace/somehow.

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Yaoier wrote:

These are the negatives (on the left is the one with the haze, on the right one is a roll that had no problems)

The ones on the left look underexposed to me.  Even those on the right look slightly underexposed.

That would explain the lack of contrast in the scans.  The slight fogging of the negs on the left would only make matters worse.

justinwonnacott Senior Member • Posts: 1,318
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The  film on yhe left is fogged and underexposed and underdeveloped. Was it ol stock or stored in hot conditions...sure looks like it.

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justinwonnacott Senior Member • Posts: 1,318
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justinwonnacott wrote:

The film on yhe left is fogged and underexposed and underdeveloped. Was it ol stock or stored in hot conditions...sure looks like it.

How old is the left film. It looks like it is 20 yrs old or worse. Setting the end points in scanner and steepening the curve will help.

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justinwonnacott Senior Member • Posts: 1,318
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tomnorth wrote:

The negs on the left have somehow been fogged. You can see that the space around the sprockets has been exposed. Given that it’s uniformly fogged my guess would be that it’s not a camera light leak, especially since the other roll looks just fine. It looks like the roll was exposed to light in the processing. Unless this is a long expired roll of film and it got fogged over time.

Did you forget to put the center bit in a Patterson tank? That let's fogging light in....

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Cerridwen
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The base density on the bad roll is dark. As already stated, it was an issue with either development, somehow fogged, or in the rare case a batch error.

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