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R7 focus stacking in camera

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jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,036
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RightMomentRightExposure wrote:

It's good to point out focus stacking only works with inanimate objects.

and "relatively still" live ones(bugs), I often use stacking in small bursts when light / flash permits, other brands are apparently even better

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drsnoopy Senior Member • Posts: 1,216
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RightMomentRightExposure wrote:

It's good to point out focus stacking only works with inanimate objects.

Not necessarily - but they do need to be still for maybe half a second.  Butterflies are a good example, handheld stacking with an R7, R5 etc is very fast indeed.

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drsnoopy wrote:

RightMomentRightExposure wrote:

It's good to point out focus stacking only works with inanimate objects.

Not necessarily - but they do need to be still for maybe half a second. Butterflies are a good example, handheld stacking with an R7, R5 etc is very fast indeed.

And this is where you can point all the sour people saying "REAL photographers don't need 40fps" to. Having the 20fps available for focus stacking larger insects was a game changer for me.

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Netspyder New Member • Posts: 1
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I find a 20 image stack using the electronic shutter at 30fps works well, and most of the time I am happy with the final composited image and no longer need all the extra jpegs. Is there a setting which automatically discards them after the stacking process is completed?

AnfaengerFotograph New Member • Posts: 15
Re: R7 focus stacking in camera

Netspyder wrote:

I find a 20 image stack using the electronic shutter at 30fps works well, and most of the time I am happy with the final composited image and no longer need all the extra jpegs. Is there a setting which automatically discards them after the stacking process is completed?

I would also like to know this.

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I don’t use the in-camera stacking feature, but I do use Focus Bracketing for my macros.  It’s transformed the way I shoot macros!  So much easier to achieve the desired focus (focal plane).  Cherry-pick the best frame, or stack later in post!  Easy peasy.  

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Re: R7 focus stacking in camera

AnfaengerFotograph wrote:

Netspyder wrote:

I find a 20 image stack using the electronic shutter at 30fps works well, and most of the time I am happy with the final composited image and no longer need all the extra jpegs. Is there a setting which automatically discards them after the stacking process is completed?

I would also like to know this.

I've just checked, and can't find one. What you can do is select one of them to delete, and you get the option to delete the whole sequence. I shoot in RAW, so all the images, except the composited one, are RAWs. I tend to be very reluctant to discard images, though. Just in case I want to redo the stacking in Photoshop, I hang onto them.

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I'm still loving this feature on the R7. Here are a couple of handheld focus stacks, compositing done in camera. I tweaked the JPEGs in Topaz AI and Lightroom:

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AnfaengerFotograph New Member • Posts: 15
Re: R7 focus stacking in camera

Alastair Norcross wrote:

AnfaengerFotograph wrote:

Netspyder wrote:

I find a 20 image stack using the electronic shutter at 30fps works well, and most of the time I am happy with the final composited image and no longer need all the extra jpegs. Is there a setting which automatically discards them after the stacking process is completed?

I would also like to know this.

I've just checked, and can't find one. What you can do is select one of them to delete, and you get the option to delete the whole sequence. I shoot in RAW, so all the images, except the composited one, are RAWs. I tend to be very reluctant to discard images, though. Just in case I want to redo the stacking in Photoshop, I hang onto them.

That’s a good point. Thanks.

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I am thinking of switching from a Sony A7III to Canon so I can use the focus stacking feature.

Will the focus stack feature work with strobe lights?

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no

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apersson850 Senior Member • Posts: 2,076
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You can use it with a standard flash unit, though.

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PenPhotos wrote:

I am thinking of switching from a Sony A7III to Canon so I can use the focus stacking feature.

Will the focus stack feature work with strobe lights?

It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

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It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

Stroboscopic lights hasn't anything to do with the shutter.

Ordinary flash units do, if that's what you are referring to. And there you can have it working with electronic shutters too. It just depends on which camera model you get. My Canon mirrorless does indeed work with flash and electronic shutter in combination.

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jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,036
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Alastair Norcross wrote:

It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

Stroboscopic lights hasn't anything to do with the shutter.

Ordinary flash units do, if that's what you are referring to. And there you can have it working with electronic shutters too. It just depends on which camera model you get. My Canon mirrorless does indeed work with flash and electronic shutter in combination.

This canon manual page says flash is not possible with the r7, see the caution section

also there is no setting to set an interval between shots, to eg let the flash recover

you could perhaps tape over some of the flash pins…

That’s a shame really, other brand cameras do have that feature, and perhaps some other canon bodies too

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Re: R7 focus stacking in camera

jim mij wrote:

apersson850 wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

Stroboscopic lights hasn't anything to do with the shutter.

Ordinary flash units do, if that's what you are referring to. And there you can have it working with electronic shutters too. It just depends on which camera model you get. My Canon mirrorless does indeed work with flash and electronic shutter in combination.

This canon manual page says flash is not possible with the r7, see the caution section

also there is no setting to set an interval between shots, to eg let the flash recover

you could perhaps tape over some of the flash pins…

That’s a shame really, other brand cameras do have that feature, and perhaps some other canon bodies too

Yes, the Canon EOS R3 can use flash with the electronic shutter.

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drsnoopy Senior Member • Posts: 1,216
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apersson850 wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

Stroboscopic lights hasn't anything to do with the shutter.

Ordinary flash units do, if that's what you are referring to. And there you can have it working with electronic shutters too. It just depends on which camera model you get. My Canon mirrorless does indeed work with flash and electronic shutter in combination.

You must have an R3, that is the only Canon body that allows flash with e-shutter.

In the USA, flashguns are often described as “strobes” - incorrectly.

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apersson850 wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

It doesn't work with flash, because it uses e-shutter. But I use an LCD panel, which gives plenty of light, and can be adjusted for intensity and white balance.

Stroboscopic lights hasn't anything to do with the shutter.

In photography, the term 'strobe' or 'strobe light' refers to a kind of electronic flash. There is nothing 'incorrect' about this usage. Such lights will not work with e-shutter on most Canon cameras.

Ordinary flash units do, if that's what you are referring to. And there you can have it working with electronic shutters too. It just depends on which camera model you get.

Exactly. This thread is about focus stacking on the R7, which doesn't work with flash in e-shutter. The only current Canon model that works with flash in e-shutter is the R3.

My Canon mirrorless does indeed work with flash and electronic shutter in combination.

Again, this thread is about the R7 (it's in the title of the thread).

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apersson850 Senior Member • Posts: 2,076
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Yes, I know that Americans sometimes have illogical names for things. Like "wireless" implying radio when it just as well could be optical etc.

I checked the meaning of "strobe" and most sources I found said it was a stroboscopic light. Sorry for the confusion.

I've noticed that the headline says R7. So much better to include information about other models too, so those who haven't bought one yet can re-consider if needed.

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