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Too much NX kit (!)

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Too much NX kit (!)

I've decided that I've got too much nx kit that's not being used as much as I'd like.

As much as I love it, the Galaxy NX is the first to go...if anyone's interested please check out the listing in the for sale forum.

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Siralgovia Regular Member • Posts: 157
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Ah, if I didn't already have two I'd buy it. By far my favorite NX. I actually prefer it over the NX500. Never used the NX1 but I already have a Panasonic G9 for video. Somehow the NX1 never appealed to me knowing that I can get the same sensor in the NX500.

Unfortunately my NX500 has a broken SD card slot since last week. Not sure what happened but when I pulled out my SD, one of the connectors got caught on it. Now I can't insert a card anymore. Will have to open it up and can hopefully fix it.

Regarding the Galaxy NX, there is no other mirrorless camera out there with a screen that size and I also love the instant Bluetooth transfer you can do without having to use the Samsung app. Which btw doesn't work for me anymore with my new phone.

I also think that there is something special / different about its sensor or rather processing. They say it's the exact same sensor of the NX300 but the processor is different. I find it gives me the most natural looking colors of all NX cameras I have used. The NX500 has some sort of grayish yellow green shade on there that I cannot get fully rid of in jpeg, even when I tweak the settings. I'm sure it's no issue in Raw. My favorite combo is now the NX with the 20mm. The whole thing is very light and I barely feel it hanging around my neck.

But I am considering slimming things down as well. If I can't fix my NX500 I am likely looking for another. I still love the output even though I prefer that of the Galaxy NX. And I like the exact lining up of the 20mm with my Ricoh viewfinder. I just got the 12-24mm last month and I don't think I will need the 16mm anymore. I also don't use my 45mm enough to justify having it sit in my closet. It's an outstanding lens, but I don't find myself using that focal length very often. I'm still deciding on my 18-200mm. I find it excellent paired with my Samsung NX Mini, but also very heavy. It feels more home on the Galaxy NX, but IQ is significantly better on the Mini since it crops the blurry edges.

Only considering to sell it to fund a PL100-400 for my G9 which will give me even more reach.

Just bought a NX3300 for pennies just to try it again after I sold my first, but the NX3000 definitely produces better jpegs. There is a clear difference for me. Will sell this as well. Will keep my NX3000, which I think is very underrated and probably the best deal regarding $/IQ you can get in Mirrorless at the moment.

The reason I have two Galaxy NXs is that they are so hard to find and I enjoy that model so much that if one breaks I have a backup waiting. But I have one here in the US and I keep the other at my parents' house in Germany, so I only need to bring a couple of lenses when I visit them.

I have two NX Minis for the same reason. To me they are a special model and a collector's item.

Currently I am mostly using my Fuji Xf10 and Ricoh GR but I always come back to my NXs.

I would not sell the Galaxy NX if I was you, if anything it is a collector's item, but I don't want to make it complicated for you as you already made your decision ;).

shutterbugnx
shutterbugnx Regular Member • Posts: 168
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I don't use any of my Samsung gear anymore, have already sold some of it.

Stopped caring about JPEG quality and learned to process from raw.

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OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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I agree with you about the Galaxy nx. It has a certain 'je ne sais quoi' about it! A bit like the 20mm lens, that has some strange undefined quality.

But I shoot a lot of video, and the NX1 is exceptional for that, and I have 3 NX1s at the moment!

It's a shame that the file sharing isn't as reliable on that camera compared to the galaxy nx, and of course you're right the screen is brilliant on the galaxy nx!

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Siralgovia Regular Member • Posts: 157
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Yes, I never use any of my Samsungs for video. I'm sure your NX1s beat the Galaxy NX there by a huge margin.

I'm spoiled by the Dual IS from my G9, but am still surprised how good the OIS is in the 18-200mm as well as in the 17mm Mini.

OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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Siralgovia wrote:

Yes, I never use any of my Samsungs for video. I'm sure your NX1s beat the Galaxy NX there by a huge margin.

I'm spoiled by the Dual IS from my G9, but am still surprised how good the OIS is in the 18-200mm as well as in the 17mm Mini.

I really wanted to try the nx mini with the 17mm but haven't had the chance (so far...)

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shutterbugnx Regular Member • Posts: 168
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markyboy81 wrote:

I really wanted to try the nx mini with the 17mm but haven't had the chance (so far...)

2.7x crop factor, 45.9mm full-frame equivalent, it's not that stellar of a lens. Check out fast C-mount telephoto lenses. Though if the NX 20mm appeals to you, why not just use it on the NX mini? The OIS performance of the 17mm isn't particularly strong and NX mini is better suited for daylight shooting with its small sensor.

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OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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shutterbugnx wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

I really wanted to try the nx mini with the 17mm but haven't had the chance (so far...)

2.7x crop factor, 45.9mm full-frame equivalent, it's not that stellar of a lens. Check out fast C-mount telephoto lenses. Though if the NX 20mm appeals to you, why not just use it on the NX mini? The OIS performance of the 17mm isn't particularly strong and NX mini is better suited for daylight shooting with its small sensor.

I don't even own an nx mini at the moment. I'm slightly tempted, but would need the adapter, which is very rare. There was an nx mini that sold on ebay with the 9mm, 9-27mm and the adapter, for around £190, but I missed out on it.

I think I'll stick to what I have...

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shutterbugnx
shutterbugnx Regular Member • Posts: 168
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markyboy81 wrote:

I don't even own an nx mini at the moment. I'm slightly tempted, but would need the adapter, which is very rare. There was an nx mini that sold on ebay with the 9mm, 9-27mm and the adapter, for around £190, but I missed out on it.

I think I'll stick to what I have...

If you do end up with an NX mini, adapting C mount lenses is a lot of fun. The necessary adapter itself is relatively inexpensive.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203795867709

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Siralgovia Regular Member • Posts: 157
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I own the adapter but don't use it that much. The true powerhouse for the NX Mini is the 17mm lens. It rivals the sharpness of my Ricoh GR and Fuji Xf10 lenses (though different focal length of course). And is similarly portable package. The 17mm is expensive but it's not as rare as the adapter. The 9 and 9-27 are also nice lenses, with the 9 being somewhat flare prone. Those two lenses can't match the clarity and sharpness of my Ricoh and Fuji, but the 17mm can. And it has very effective OIS. If you have a Mini I highly recommend the 17mm with Ricoh wide angle adapter. It turns it into a 37mm lens without any blurring of the edges. Perfect focal length for me.

Onetwoshot Forum Member • Posts: 54
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Siralgovia wrote:

I also think that there is something special / different about its sensor or rather processing. They say it's the exact same sensor of the NX300 but the processor is different. I find it gives me the most natural looking colors of all NX cameras I have used.

I think Galaxy NX uses the nx1000 sensor. I opened one up and on the metal surrounding the sensor  NX1000 or NX100 (can't remember) is engraved in.

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OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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Onetwoshot wrote:

Siralgovia wrote:

I also think that there is something special / different about its sensor or rather processing. They say it's the exact same sensor of the NX300 but the processor is different. I find it gives me the most natural looking colors of all NX cameras I have used.

I think Galaxy NX uses the nx1000 sensor. I opened one up and on the metal surrounding the sensor NX1000 or NX100 (can't remember) is engraved in.

Would most likely be the nx1000 as the nx100 was only 14mp.

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Abbazz
Abbazz Senior Member • Posts: 1,339
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Onetwoshot wrote:

I think Galaxy NX uses the nx1000 sensor. I opened one up and on the metal surrounding the sensor NX1000 or NX100 (can't remember) is engraved in.

When you look at the EXIF data from its images,  the Galaxy NX is named "Samsung EK-GN100". Maybe that's the name you saw printed next to the sensor.

Cheers!

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OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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The Galaxy nx has gone now. As much as I loved it, the NX1 is much superior in my opinion and it wasn't getting a lot of use.

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Siralgovia Regular Member • Posts: 157
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Oh, absolutely, the NX1 is technically miles ahead of the Galaxy NX. So is the NX500. The Galaxy is slow as heck and to restart it from idle is glacial. It's hard to change settings quickly and there are no dedicated function buttons that can be programmed. It has a beautiful grip and great screen and awesome Bluetooth transfer. But most everything else about it almost sucks compared to newer cameras and I would imagine the NX1 as well, which is classes ahead technically. But I'll be darned if some of my most breathtaking images didn't come from the Galaxy NX (breataking to me that is not sure if others would agree, I'm probably just a mediocre photographer).  And I own a Ricoh GR and GXR, Fuji Xf10, Fuji Xpro 1, Panasonic G9 and GM1. All with a variety of lenses and lensors. And more Samsung NXs. I was soooo close to selling the Galaxy NX a few times but then comparing it to my NX500, I can't deny that the Galaxy just beats it, at least in Jpeg output. There is a 3D thing in there I just cannot achieve with my NX500.

But you have to go with your gut, and if having sold the Galaxy NX feels good, you did the right thing. I sold my Pentax gear even though my models and lenses were praised as standout cult items. I just didn't feel it. I think the beauty is that there are cameras out there that hit the right spot for different people. I personally can't do Nikon, their color science and rendering just does not gel with me. It's very likely brilliant but I cannot personally see the wow factor.

I will have to get my hands on an NX1. I hear the output is very comparable to the NX500, but maybe there's some fairy dust in there I'm not aware of.

OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
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Siralgovia wrote:

Oh, absolutely, the NX1 is technically miles ahead of the Galaxy NX. So is the NX500. The Galaxy is slow as heck and to restart it from idle is glacial. It's hard to change settings quickly and there are no dedicated function buttons that can be programmed. It has a beautiful grip and great screen and awesome Bluetooth transfer. But most everything else about it almost sucks compared to newer cameras and I would imagine the NX1 as well, which is classes ahead technically. But I'll be darned if some of my most breathtaking images didn't come from the Galaxy NX (breataking to me that is not sure if others would agree, I'm probably just a mediocre photographer). And I own a Ricoh GR and GXR, Fuji Xf10, Fuji Xpro 1, Panasonic G9 and GM1. All with a variety of lenses and lensors. And more Samsung NXs. I was soooo close to selling the Galaxy NX a few times but then comparing it to my NX500, I can't deny that the Galaxy just beats it, at least in Jpeg output. There is a 3D thing in there I just cannot achieve with my NX500.

But you have to go with your gut, and if having sold the Galaxy NX feels good, you did the right thing. I sold my Pentax gear even though my models and lenses were praised as standout cult items. I just didn't feel it. I think the beauty is that there are cameras out there that hit the right spot for different people. I personally can't do Nikon, their color science and rendering just does not gel with me. It's very likely brilliant but I cannot personally see the wow factor.

I will have to get my hands on an NX1. I hear the output is very comparable to the NX500, but maybe there's some fairy dust in there I'm not aware of.

You're absolutely right, there is something magical about the output of the GNX. However, I shoot a lot of video so it seemed a waste not using the GNX when the NX1 does a better job in this regard.

Some of the shortcomings of the GNX were;

No 4k video, no DIS, it sort of has a mic jack but only automatic volume control, doesn't work with all NX lenses (namely 50-150mm, there may be others),.

Also, despite it being a great connected camera, Samsung really under specced that aspect of it, even given that it was released several years ago. It was stuck on the same version of Android, didn't have much RAM (I had issues with messaging apps)and the onboard storage was low (although supported micro SD). When I first owned the GNX back in 2015 the android experience was better, but this time around I've had issues with certain apps and found it to be quite clunky.

Despite all of this, I still love the camera and there is nothing else like it, plus it produces some awesome skills. If it wasn't for the NX1 it'd still be in my armoury.

Now I'm just waiting for another eBay sellers offer and the NX500 will be sold...

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