Got my X-H2s today!

echodoc wrote:

So,what is the point of more megapixels with less than leading class autofocus. The problem I have is that there are too numerous reviews of the X-H2s and to my knowledge none of them have claimed equivalence or superiority to Canon or Sony even in their non-stacked sensor cameras. I own more Fuji cameras and lenses than I do Sony, and . My favorite of the several I own is the XT4. What is not said speaks volumes to me.

That is factually inaccurate.

Galan’s Review

Taylor Jackson

They not only claim it, they prove it and show you it.

dv312 wrote:

Glad you didn't get the A9

As a A9 shooter for the past 3 years, I know it's a good camera as far as birding is concerned, the first with ultra fast AFC and stacked sensor but the ergo is nothing to be desired

The grip gives me cramps after 1 hour of shooting, it's just too small and has no room for the fingers to grab on to, nor the index to rest

When you don't enjoy holding the camera then it has to go in spite of its other virtues

I held the A1 and didn't feel any improvements so have to look elsewhere

Z9 at first but after waiting for 6 months I gave up, besides the whole system costs much more

Then comes Fuji whose body + 150-600mm still cost less than Z9 or A1

Easy decision for me

No, because when I was looking at it and thinking about the hassle of selling all my Fuji lenses, Fuji dropped this bomb on the market, so I waited for the reviews instead.

iRanN wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

Yes and that's my issue, how much of the benefit do we get from that, without the stacked sensor. This thing is fast and I'm very pleased with how well it is performing at the moment.

Aren’t stacked sensors more about fast sensor readouts than autofocus speed?

With the new generation of Expeed processor + new autofocus algorithm, the upcoming XT5 should be able to show a much faster autofocus than previous XTs.

Very few Sonys and Canons are equiped with stacked sensors and they exhibit top-notch autofocus….

There’s a difference between decent tracking and the level of tracking included with their stacked sensors based bodies.
The Canon R5 and R3 are stacked, the Sony A9, A9 II, and A1 are all stacked as well. The AF has 3.5x the speed in those bodies, over their un stacked enthusiast designs. Speed itself isn’t enough, but it certainly allows you to make up for some mistakes.

If you look for A9 vs A3 on YouTube, you will somebody explaining the advantages of the sensor.

Neither canons are stacked, the only cameras with stacked sensor are:

Sony A1, A9, A9ii, RX10iv, RX100vii, RX100vi, ZV1 and RX0ii

olympus OM-1

Nikon Z9

My mistake, I thought I had read they were.

FuzzyDice wrote:

iRanN wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

Yes and that's my issue, how much of the benefit do we get from that, without the stacked sensor. This thing is fast and I'm very pleased with how well it is performing at the moment.

Aren’t stacked sensors more about fast sensor readouts than autofocus speed?

With the new generation of Expeed processor + new autofocus algorithm, the upcoming XT5 should be able to show a much faster autofocus than previous XTs.

Very few Sonys and Canons are equiped with stacked sensors and they exhibit top-notch autofocus….

There’s a difference between decent tracking and the level of tracking included with their stacked sensors based bodies.
The Canon R5 and R3 are stacked, the Sony A9, A9 II, and A1 are all stacked as well. The AF has 3.5x the speed in those bodies, over their un stacked enthusiast designs. Speed itself isn’t enough, but it certainly allows you to make up for some mistakes.

If you look for A9 vs A3 on YouTube, you will somebody explaining the advantages of the sensor.

Neither canons are stacked, the only cameras with stacked sensor are:

Sony A1, A9, A9ii, RX10iv, RX100vii, RX100vi, ZV1 and RX0ii

olympus OM-1

Nikon Z9

My mistake, I thought I had read they were.

The only Canon that has a stacked sensor is the R3.

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

Yes and that's my issue, how much of the benefit do we get from that, without the stacked sensor. This thing is fast and I'm very pleased with how well it is performing at the moment.

Aren’t stacked sensors more about fast sensor readouts than autofocus speed?

With the new generation of Expeed processor + new autofocus algorithm, the upcoming XT5 should be able to show a much faster autofocus than previous XTs.

Very few Sonys and Canons are equiped with stacked sensors and they exhibit top-notch autofocus….

Hey just saw this on the site earlier today and thought you might be interested.

why-the-speed-of-stacked-cmos-is-key-to-nikon-s-pro-mirrorless-camera

FuzzyDice wrote:

echodoc wrote:

So,what is the point of more megapixels with less than leading class autofocus. The problem I have is that there are too numerous reviews of the X-H2s and to my knowledge none of them have claimed equivalence or superiority to Canon or Sony even in their non-stacked sensor cameras. I own more Fuji cameras and lenses than I do Sony, and . My favorite of the several I own is the XT4. What is not said speaks volumes to me.

That is factually inaccurate.

Galan’s Review

Taylor Jackson

They not only claim it, they prove it and show you it.

Let’s wait for full reviews based on production model. Tracking seems good but will the pictures be in focus. I haven’t seen much pictures, mainly videos showing subjects tracked by the camera.

The autofocus seems anyway good enough and not lagging competition anymore for sure. The wait was long I have to say but we are finally there ! And now that it’s out, I don’t know why I’m not excited. What’s wrong with me !!! Maybe the price.

Fuji cameras used to be lighter and cheaper. They are definitely not cheaper anymore and I think weight is the same as the A7IV.

I like my XT2 dials but coming originally from a DSLR, I think I could go back to a non-dial type of body. But it’s true that I use my compensation dial a lot.

I think I’m a bit lost right now on what my next steps will be.

Sorry for the rant but ideas are constantly floating around in my head and I had to spit it out like in a psycho-therapy session

FuzzyDice wrote:

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

Yes and that's my issue, how much of the benefit do we get from that, without the stacked sensor. This thing is fast and I'm very pleased with how well it is performing at the moment.

Aren’t stacked sensors more about fast sensor readouts than autofocus speed?

With the new generation of Expeed processor + new autofocus algorithm, the upcoming XT5 should be able to show a much faster autofocus than previous XTs.

Very few Sonys and Canons are equiped with stacked sensors and they exhibit top-notch autofocus….

Hey just saw this on the site earlier today and thought you might be interested.

why-the-speed-of-stacked-cmos-is-key-to-nikon-s-pro-mirrorless-camera

Interesting indeed.

I have a question though: why isn’t Fuji autofocus system much better than that of a R5 or R6 or A7IV for example, which dont have a stacked sensor at their core ??

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

echodoc wrote:

So,what is the point of more megapixels with less than leading class autofocus. The problem I have is that there are too numerous reviews of the X-H2s and to my knowledge none of them have claimed equivalence or superiority to Canon or Sony even in their non-stacked sensor cameras. I own more Fuji cameras and lenses than I do Sony, and . My favorite of the several I own is the XT4. What is not said speaks volumes to me.

That is factually inaccurate.

Galan’s Review

Taylor Jackson

They not only claim it, they prove it and show you it.

Let’s wait for full reviews based on production model. Tracking seems good but will the pictures be in focus. I haven’t seen much pictures, mainly videos showing subjects tracked by the camera.

The autofocus seems anyway good enough and not lagging competition anymore for sure. The wait was long I have to say but we are finally there ! And now that it’s out, I don’t know why I’m not excited. What’s wrong with me !!! Maybe the price.

Fuji cameras used to be lighter and cheaper. They are definitely not cheaper anymore and I think weight is the same as the A7IV.

I like my XT2 dials but coming originally from a DSLR, I think I could go back to a non-dial type of body. But it’s true that I use my compensation dial a lot.

I think I’m a bit lost right now on what my next steps will be.

Sorry for the rant but ideas are constantly floating around in my head and I had to spit it out like in a psycho-therapy session

They addressed that too in the reviews.  There were some where they did 40 shot bursts and noted all of them were in focus.

This camera is the real deal and I’m speaking from experience, it is a beast.

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

gillesC wrote:

FuzzyDice wrote:

Yes and that's my issue, how much of the benefit do we get from that, without the stacked sensor. This thing is fast and I'm very pleased with how well it is performing at the moment.

Aren’t stacked sensors more about fast sensor readouts than autofocus speed?

With the new generation of Expeed processor + new autofocus algorithm, the upcoming XT5 should be able to show a much faster autofocus than previous XTs.

Very few Sonys and Canons are equiped with stacked sensors and they exhibit top-notch autofocus….

Hey just saw this on the site earlier today and thought you might be interested.

why-the-speed-of-stacked-cmos-is-key-to-nikon-s-pro-mirrorless-camera

Interesting indeed.

I have a question though: why isn’t Fuji autofocus system much better than that of a R5 or R6 or A7IV for example, which dont have a stacked sensor at their core ??

So, the R6 was often called the best, even more accurate than Sony with their Eye AF.  So watching the reviews I posted below, I would say it is much better than the R5 or R6 at that point.  I haven’t seen any A7 IV comparisons, but I would suspect it is better than that, if the  reviewers are telling the truth about it legitimately being as good as any on the market (That would mean it is A1 level and that’s beyond A7 level).