Any new affordable APS-C DSLRs on the horizon?

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krambjorn New Member • Posts: 12
Any new affordable APS-C DSLRs on the horizon?

Hi,

Only Pentax APS-C cameras available in Sweden right now are the too expensive (for me) K-3 III at $2100 and the six(!) years old K-70, which still goes for around $750 - $800.

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

/Krambjörn

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zakaria Veteran Member • Posts: 6,441
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K70 replacement should be on the horizon. I think it is the right time whereas the k3iii now is stable after one year in the market .

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There were a few rumors about a possible lower end model coming out, but this was several months back. The rumors have subsided since then. Rumors about future Pentax cameras are pretty much non-existent at the moment.

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krambjorn wrote:

Hi,

Only Pentax APS-C cameras available in Sweden right now are the too expensive (for me) K-3 III at $2100 and the six(!) years old K-70, which still goes for around $750 - $800.

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

/Krambjörn

Yes, a replacement of the K-70 might be on the way. But as soon as it will be announced, hurry up to get a K-70, as its replacement will be 2-times more expensive and just marginally improved. Unless Pentax is going to get rid finally of those green solenoids .

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The question is, if new DSLR K70 replacement can be in similar price level as entry level mirror-less cameras to be competitive.

a) DSLR will probably be more expensive than ILC counterparts with similar parameters, yet those competitors now have wider lens portfolio to select from.

b) Ricoh can try to build mirrorless camera and add K-mount autofocusing adaptor. That will provide three things. 1) new camera with competitve price, 2) more modern mount can be used with possible adaptors for other systems, 3) it will be a nice new start into new era with some chance to grab new customers. While "old" pentaxians will probably follow with K3III/K1, keep all lenses and later switch to some hi-end mirrorless Pentax when it will be available.

OVF is nice.. but current hi-end EVFs are different level. And if you'd like to experience cameras that are able to find eyes and track them.. there is no chance to do that with phase-detect AF and pentaprism. And who for some reason needs pentaprism and mirror flaps and front/back focus issues, well, plenty of DSLRs were made so far..

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RBIV Senior Member • Posts: 1,144
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krambjorn wrote:

Hi,

Only Pentax APS-C cameras available in Sweden right now are the too expensive (for me) K-3 III at $2100 and the six(!) years old K-70, which still goes for around $750 - $800.

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

/Krambjörn

If there is anybody on the forum that actually knows when Pentax will release a new APS-C, and what that price range will be -- they aren't saying.  For sure, Pentax isn't saying, or hasn't done so yet.

And as far as brand switch for APS-C, I still see a fair bit of cloudy sky there.  I'm not sure what the other makers plans are longer range for the format is as regards lens options and body availability.  Pretty clear they won't include DSLRs though....

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altis Senior Member • Posts: 1,088
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Sadly, no new cameras are imminent from Ricoh:

https://fccid.io/2ACZS

robbo d Veteran Member • Posts: 3,784
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New Canon R7 and R10 look very promising 🤔

Gesture Forum Pro • Posts: 10,057
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Just as I thought when Ricoh assumed Pentax, an OEM needs more than 1 extant (new) model at a time. Not like Canon or Nikon in their heyday. But more than 1 new model every 5-6 years. How would someone justify investment in lenses.  At first, they seemed to understand that.

kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 892
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krambjorn wrote:

Hi,

Only Pentax APS-C cameras available in Sweden right now are the too expensive (for me) K-3 III at $2100 and the six(!) years old K-70, which still goes for around $750 - $800.

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

/Krambjörn

The only Pentax-branded APS-C cameras available anywhere, except possibly a few left-over "new-old-stock" KPs, are the K-70 and the K-3iii.

And what would you expect that could be "better" than what the K-70 offers for less money … especially if you already have a commitment of Pentax-fit lenses?

Having used the K-70 extensively for over a year before I "upgraded" to a KP I know from experience that there's very little the K-70 can't do if the photographer knows what he's doing!

The very fact that the K-70 design is now 6 years old simply reflects how well it was designed in the first place … it no way implies that it needs to be replaced!

Pentax have declared their ongoing commitment to the DSLR concept, complete with optical viewfinder, so I feel there's very little chance of any dreams of a mirrorless body with EVF and full-function adaptor to support K-mount lenses ever becoming a reality … the designing of a whole new range of lenses to support this new body concept would be a major stumbling block before anything else!

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Gesture Forum Pro • Posts: 10,057
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Sony has been down that road with A-Mount.  A whole series of adapters.

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I would think that in these times, with the market as it is, that a low margin budget DSLR would be a mistake. Better to do a K-1iii.

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With kaf4 just getting started, perhaps some new functions will be coming whenever the kq arrives. Some dof bracketing, perhapsss?

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Going years without knowing what Pentax is doing, or having them announce something and waiting years for them to divulge any details.

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krambjorn wrote:

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

What's wrong with the K-70?

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Tom Lusk Senior Member • Posts: 1,902
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Sjak wrote:

krambjorn wrote:

So, is there anything new coming out, in a reasonable hobbyist price range, or is the only option to switch brands?

What's wrong with the K-70?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4657965

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Tom Lusk wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4657965

Yeah, crappy service, also what I experienced with my K-1 when it needed a small repair...

This, combined with 2 (yes TWO) lemons of the DFA* 1.4/50 made me decide to not purchase any high-end Pentax-stuff anymore.

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Gesture wrote:

Sony has been down that road with A-Mount. A whole series of adapters.

All current ILC manufacturers have AF adaptors for previous DSLR system. Sony can adapt Minolta/A mount with AF support.
Olympus can use 4/3 lenses on M4/3 bodies
Canon can use EF lenses on R mount
Nikon can use F lenses on Z mount.
Fuji had no own mount, but used Fmount and has adaptors.
I see no issue with Ricoh doing the same. And the best part is, that some adaptors give you options to use other system lenses on your system. Like you can attach Canon EF lens on almost anything and have it with AF. In some cases even with speedboosters...
Those are options far from very limited Pentax K mount AF lens portfolio.
Yes, Canon R7 is nice beast.. and cost 20% less than K3III here. If only tere was Kmount adaptor for it to utilize all my lenses collected over time..

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jim yeats Contributing Member • Posts: 712
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There comes a time when the best thing to do is sell what you have and move on.

You'll know when.

Sjak
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xmeda wrote:

All current ILC manufacturers have AF adaptors for previous DSLR system.

This is true to a degree, but there are differences across brands.

E.g. Sony had a few adapters for its legacy lenses, all crippled in different ways.

Canon had adapters for the R-mount that make EF-lenses better on R-cams than on EF-bodies.

Fuji had no own mount, but used Fmount and has adaptors.

To my best knowledge, there's no Fuji-endorsed F-X-adaper.

I see no issue with Ricoh doing the same.

Me neither.

Yes, Canon R7 is nice beast.. and cost 20% less than K3III here. If only tere was Kmount adaptor for it to utilize all my lenses collected over time..

I haven't used the R7 myself. How would you assess the UI and shooting experience when compared to a recent Pentax-camera?

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