Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

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jerrylipski
jerrylipski New Member • Posts: 2
Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

I am a new owner of a Nikon D850 body.  I use it with my Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 and Nikon 200-400 f/4 to shoot horse events such as Pleasure Events, barrel racing and pole bending.   No matter what MODE I use, P, M, A or S, the images always come out 1-2 stops darker than what the back screen shows.     Yet when I am looking thru the eye piece, the metering is right on the center marker and I'm thinking, "The D850 has this"..

I have now uploaded the newest Firmware version, 1.20 and 2.018.    I checked to make sure I do not have BRACKETING turned on.    For me to get a somewhat good image, I need to be either at +0.7 or +1.0 in EV.

I use Matrix Metering with 20mm Center Weighted area.      Can anyone shed light on this.     I solely use JPG and do not use NEF unless I am doing portraits.

I take 1,500-2800 shots a day at events.  So editing is as streamline as it can get.

I had a D800 which really never gave me this issue.    Except for the huge jump in ISO which is great, I am starting to feel like I should get my D800 out again.   Please tell me I'm just adjusting something incorrectly..

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briantilley
briantilley Veteran Member • Posts: 7,098
Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

jerrylipski wrote:

I am a new owner of a Nikon D850 body. I use it with my Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 and Nikon 200-400 f/4 to shoot horse events such as Pleasure Events, barrel racing and pole bending. No matter what MODE I use, P, M, A or S, the images always come out 1-2 stops darker than what the back screen shows. Yet when I am looking thru the eye piece, the metering is right on the center marker and I'm thinking, "The D850 has this"..

I have now uploaded the newest Firmware version, 1.20 and 2.018. I checked to make sure I do not have BRACKETING turned on. For me to get a somewhat good image, I need to be either at +0.7 or +1.0 in EV.

I use Matrix Metering with 20mm Center Weighted area.

I don't know if it's going to help find the cause of the problem, but I'm confused by that remark.

The selectable size of the central area applies only to Centre-weighted metering.  It's not relevant to Matrix metering.  So, which are you using?

Can anyone shed light on this. I solely use JPG and do not use NEF unless I am doing portraits.

I take 1,500-2800 shots a day at events. So editing is as streamline as it can get.

I had a D800 which really never gave me this issue. Except for the huge jump in ISO which is great, I am starting to feel like I should get my D800 out again. Please tell me I'm just adjusting something incorrectly..

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MoreCowbell Contributing Member • Posts: 529
Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

I don't shoot jpeg, nor do I shoot horses, so I'm afraid I have no direct experience with your issue.  However, based on experience gained from three D850 bodies and a variety of lenses I'm going to make a WAG that there is some setting error rather than a defective camera.  Can't rule it out of course, but something broken not my first thought.

That being the case, my general purpose solution to such like difficulties is to perform a two button reset and start over.

It might be useful if you were to post a couple of original jpegs and a couple of original raw files to Dropbox or some such place so they can be examined.

Wahrsager
Wahrsager Veteran Member • Posts: 3,180
Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

jerrylipski wrote:

I am a new owner of a Nikon D850 body. I use it with my Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 and Nikon 200-400 f/4 to shoot horse events such as Pleasure Events, barrel racing and pole bending. No matter what MODE I use, P, M, A or S, the images always come out 1-2 stops darker than what the back screen shows. Yet when I am looking thru the eye piece, the metering is right on the center marker and I'm thinking, "The D850 has this"..

I have now uploaded the newest Firmware version, 1.20 and 2.018. I checked to make sure I do not have BRACKETING turned on. For me to get a somewhat good image, I need to be either at +0.7 or +1.0 in EV.

I use Matrix Metering with 20mm Center Weighted area.

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Can anyone shed light on this. I solely use JPG and do not use NEF unless I am doing portraits.

I take 1,500-2800 shots a day at events. So editing is as streamline as it can get.

I had a D800 which really never gave me this issue. Except for the huge jump in ISO which is great, I am starting to feel like I should get my D800 out again. Please tell me I'm just adjusting something incorrectly..

I have a similar experience when using D5 and Matrix. Over the years, I’ve gained a sense of how much exposure compensation to dial-in per scene.

You might find this older thread useful:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60110589

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Daniel Bliss Senior Member • Posts: 2,030
Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

I'd experiment a little. Compared to every other Nikon body I've owned, the D800 has been the one that tended in my view toward "overexposure". From what I've experienced the D800 metering applies less weight to strong highlights in the area of interest than did the N90, F100, D7000, D2H for example. I assume the D850 is back to more of a traditional Nikon pattern though I have not shot one (I have two D800s).

Bear in mind I'm one of those people that always rated Kodachrome 64 at ISO 80.

However, that's a pretty big adjustment. Do you still have your D800 around to test with, let's say on a blank wall in controllable lighting?

philm5d Senior Member • Posts: 1,123
Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues

Check menu B7 (Fine Tune Optimal Exposure) to see if there has been an exposure bias somehow set in error.

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primeshooter
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Re: Nikon D850 Exposure Issues
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jerrylipski wrote:

I am a new owner of a Nikon D850 body. I use it with my Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 and Nikon 200-400 f/4 to shoot horse events such as Pleasure Events, barrel racing and pole bending. No matter what MODE I use, P, M, A or S, the images always come out 1-2 stops darker than what the back screen shows.

Darker than what? Your PC monitor? If you explain what you mean more I can maybe help. Remember - your backscreen is likely up at max brightness "+5" for daylight viewing (like I also do). But that will not correlate to a PC monitor etc.

Yet when I am looking thru the eye piece, the metering is right on the center marker and I'm thinking, "The D850 has this"..

The D850 in matrix depending on the scene will underexpose, that is more about learning how to work the metering. Every camera is different. The D850 will underexpose a scene if you put a lot of white in it, and overexpose with a lot of black. Essentially it is trying to get everything a middle grey. But with time, experience you will see how it works and dial that in. That is about the photographer, getting the settings right.

I have now uploaded the newest Firmware version, 1.20 and 2.018. I checked to make sure I do not have BRACKETING turned on. For me to get a somewhat good image, I need to be either at +0.7 or +1.0 in EV.

I use Matrix Metering with 20mm Center Weighted area. Can anyone shed light on this. I solely use JPG and do not use NEF unless I am doing portraits.

I take 1,500-2800 shots a day at events. So editing is as streamline as it can get.

I had a D800 which really never gave me this issue. Except for the huge jump in ISO which is great, I am starting to feel like I should get my D800 out again. Please tell me I'm just adjusting something incorrectly..

The D800 meters differently. I had it, sounds like you just need to learn this new tool. New camera's take time to adapt to. It is why I am loathe to change things that work without damn good reason. I have a D810 now, but did enjoy the D800 for many years.

NB I am not a jpg shooter - but if I were I'd have ADL on to my preferred settings to help with JPG exposure balance. I'd also fine tune the D850 optimal exposure in it's menu to taste. I bumped mine up by 0.3 for raw shooting, then I ride the dials and get the settings I want.

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