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rick decker
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White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs
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A "Salvage" attempt of a forgotten image that I was never sure of and it wound p inthe wrong folder and just got kind of forgotten. It is an SD15 shot of an area called "White Pocket" and is several miles out in un-maintained sometimes-deep-sand trail.

The original shot was cropped from 2640x1760 to 1600x797 and then run thru Adobe 2x2 SuperRes to 1594x3200

I am posting the cropped version and the original. Comments would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Rick

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Re: White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs

Rick I like it, except for the dark area in the sky at the top edge to the right of middle. Why did you do that?

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Re: White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs

Hi Rick,

It's an attractive subject and good composition, however it has quite a strong green cast which I have tried to correct using a quick WB adjustment.

I've also sharpened it a little.

I'm still not convinced it looks quite right but it is somewhat better, IMHO.

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rick decker
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It came like that and I tried to undo it somewhat but couldn't get a clean image.  Maybe I will start over with the RAW file which I recently found.

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Re: White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs

Thanks Vitee...Given my color perception I could not see the green cast.  The lens was 8-16 at 8mm and the shot is really not sharp enough to start with although the clouds handled it well.  i think I sharpened it once already.  I find this shot interesting - the cropped version.  Appreciate your efforts

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Two quite nice views, but...

They're both a bit too bloo, RIck (also a bit dim)

My tried fixes for each (without boring everyone with re-posts of 'em):

1) The whole shot: (all Photoshop) Auto Levels, then make new layer from that; Screen Blend then reduce that to 50~70%.

2) The cropped version (which I think I prefer): Auto Levels, then Shadow/Highlights with Shadows range set to 35%.

TFS

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PS: At the risk of bombardment by Vitée... Yours ended up way too bloo, mate. (Which at least sounds like Hey, True Blue

Peter Slovakia
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Rick, if you'll excuse me, there's another alternative. Let the foreground of this image stand out, the structure of the foreground is beautiful. I would work with the sky .. the foreground is gorgeous, it's a very nice, attractive picture 👍

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DMillier Forum Pro • Posts: 23,871
Re: White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs

I agree, I think that is the way to do it. Pity the cloud formations are not quite sympathetic to the foreground shapes, but it still works.

A mono version might be good as well.

There are some weird overlapping circular structures in the sky that jump out from a mono conversion - maybe lens flare? I've tried to disguise them a bit.

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May I ask ...

... what main subject did you intend to bring out, Rick, if any?

In the second image, the sky blue appears to be "upside down", i.e. is darkening or is more saturated from the top downward toward the horizon ... a trick of the weather perhaps?

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My favorite sleepover ever!
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Hey Rick,

I'm not sure if this photo was taken on our trip or not--but spending a night under the stars at White Pocket was a highlight of that trip for me. We had such amazing skies that day, with the wind blowing so hard and the clouds racing...  It was good that it was completely still that night, otherwise we would have froze to death!

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The sky was very frustrating.  If you would like to try, I will  make the RAW available.  Vitee did some reprocessing because of green cast.  His one has a strong blue cast in the skies which is not at all unppealing.  I wanted the beautiful SD15 skiess!!

Want to try?

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Not sure if I ever showed you this shot.  Yes it was that trip and I hated sleeping on the ground.

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RAW available at link below. Also a BW here
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http://www.lightreflection.com/UpsandDowns/

The file is  WhitePocket.X3F

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Re: White Pocket Vermilion Cliffs

Rick, the colors from RAW came out differently ... I hope you don't mind if I tried. Beautiful photo, I would save her whole ..

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Re: May I ask ...

rick decker wrote:

The sky was very frustrating. If you would like to try, I will make the RAW available. Vitee did some reprocessing because of green cast. His one has a strong blue cast in the skies which is not at all unappealing. I wanted the beautiful SD15 skies!!

Want to try?

Sure, Rick!

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xpatUSA wrote:

rick decker wrote:

The sky was very frustrating. If you would like to try, I will make the RAW available. Vitee did some reprocessing because of green cast. His one has a strong blue cast in the skies which is not at all unappealing. I wanted the beautiful SD15 skies!!

Want to try?

I think the root problem was shooting in Auto WB.

So in SPP 5.5.3 I returned all the sliders to zero and set the WB to Sunlight.

Then exported to RawTherapee as ProPhoto, 16-bit TIFF.

In RT:

Clicked on AUTO development and adjusted highlite compression to bring the now-bright bits back into the histogram.

Next white-balanced on a medium-toned piece of cloud.

Then upped the detail contrast with Contrast By Detail Levels.

At no time did I adjust any color individually.

Mine versus the SPP TIFF:

Is that SD15 blue? ....

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Thanks Peter...what about the luminance difference in the blue sky from top to bottom of sky.  My clolor vision fails me often but that is life.

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I'm sorry, Rick, I didn't realize that so deeply when I tried to adjust the photo to my liking. I just wanted to help, according to my perception of this thing and working with photography brings me joy.

However, I am happy to tell you that your photos are some of the best and most beautiful I have seen in recent years (I do not count the Bayer chip, I am not interested, it is waste).

You're a great photographer, and I think a great person, Rick.
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rick decker wrote:

http://www.lightreflection.com/UpsandDowns/

The file is WhitePocket.X3F

Hi Rick:  I love this B&W rendition.  I downloaded the X3F file and will run it through my work flow.  Thanks for sharing.  

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Re: RAW available at link below. Also a BW here

Rick:  The raw file seems to be underexposed by 1.1 stops and had a blue-green color cast.  I correct these and processed the raw files through Photoshop and Camera Raw. The finished jpeg was converted to Black and White in Camera Raw.  Below are my attempts.  A very nice image

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