The R7 finally solves Canon’s 4K 60fps dilemma

Sorry to bump this thread but it looks like Canon actually did solve the 4K 60p dilemma by releasing the firmware 1.6 for the Canon R5. I finally bought one today. Maybe Canon was lurking this thread?? 👀 😆

Able1039 wrote:

Markr041 wrote:

Able1039 wrote:

I’ve been desperately trying to find a reliable way to shoot 4K 60 in a small form a factor. The Canon cameras that offer 4K 60fps are listed below with their weaknesses.

R6- beautiful but overheats

R5- overheats. Adding Atomos Ninja makes it cumbersome

R5 C- chews through a battery in 30 minutes. Adding battery grip makes cumbersome

C70- crop sensor, large body

IDX and R3 - price and size

I usually film skateboarding events at 1080p 60fps but this weekend I decided to bump it up to 4K 60p on my R6. There were 3 events with an hour cool down in between. I got about 30 minutes each event of 4K 60 until it overheated and the rest was shot full HD. When I finally edited the video this weekend I was stunned at how good the 4K 60p was. Crispy, able to slow mo, add stabilization in post, crop in… it was a dream come true. I couldn’t fathom going back to simply full HD. Here’s what I shot

https://youtu.be/CIednx5xS9M

All week I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to shoot more 4K 60p with Canon and kept running into issue after issue. I was particularly disappointed with the R5C. I shoot weddings as well and needed a B and C camera for ceremonies that shoot 4K and most importantly a 4K 60p camera for dreamy slow motion shot with a Ronin S. The only viable option I’ve found is the R7. I figure I’ll connect it to my Ronin, pop on my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I’ve got an equivalent 28-56mm f2.8. Not bad.
I’m just sharing my experience with guys just in case someone else is going through the same dilemma I am. A 4K 60p camera that doesn’t overheat* is a good sign for Canon. Makes me hopeful for the R5 and R6 Mark ii

Any similar stories, insights and disagreements are welcomed below

I am not a Sony fan boy, and shoot a lot of video with the R5. I also shoot skateboarders.

But if you are serious about slow motion and video quality, then the Sony fx3 or a7s iii is better than any of the Canon offerings. They shoot 4K 60p and 4K 120P with no overheating (fx3), no line skipping, and full frame.

Here is a skateboarding example shot in 4K 120p:

https://youtu.be/wb07_yXaKJk

The GoPro Hero 10 also shoots high quality 4K 120p, and gives you a wide perspective you may need - in your video in many of your shots you cut off subjects because you are too close or not zooming or panning fast enough. Zooming is really important for following action, and many Sony zoom llenses are near parfocal. A crop camera (APS-C) makes shooting fast action more difficult.

I appreciate your input on Sony camera models. The A7S iii is one I debated switching to.

thanks for the critique, but I think I know a thing or two about shooting skateboarding.
I’ve run a skate magazine for over 5 years.

https://www.ableskatemag.com

The style of filming in the video I posted was on purpose. It was more about the skaters and not the tricks. Those people were all legends and It was a teaser for a documentary.
Here’s a 60 second video I filmed for Volcom for my usual filming style

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWmioKLlVmX/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This isn’t about me though. It’s about Canon and their love/have relationship with video shooters

Firmware version 1.6 for R5 will fix some of this

Markr041 wrote:

Able1039 wrote:

I’ve been desperately trying to find a reliable way to shoot 4K 60 in a small form a factor. The Canon cameras that offer 4K 60fps are listed below with their weaknesses.

R6- beautiful but overheats

R5- overheats. Adding Atomos Ninja makes it cumbersome

R5 C- chews through a battery in 30 minutes. Adding battery grip makes cumbersome

C70- crop sensor, large body

IDX and R3 - price and size

I usually film skateboarding events at 1080p 60fps but this weekend I decided to bump it up to 4K 60p on my R6. There were 3 events with an hour cool down in between. I got about 30 minutes each event of 4K 60 until it overheated and the rest was shot full HD. When I finally edited the video this weekend I was stunned at how good the 4K 60p was. Crispy, able to slow mo, add stabilization in post, crop in… it was a dream come true. I couldn’t fathom going back to simply full HD. Here’s what I shot

https://youtu.be/CIednx5xS9M

All week I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to shoot more 4K 60p with Canon and kept running into issue after issue. I was particularly disappointed with the R5C. I shoot weddings as well and needed a B and C camera for ceremonies that shoot 4K and most importantly a 4K 60p camera for dreamy slow motion shot with a Ronin S. The only viable option I’ve found is the R7. I figure I’ll connect it to my Ronin, pop on my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I’ve got an equivalent 28-56mm f2.8. Not bad.
I’m just sharing my experience with guys just in case someone else is going through the same dilemma I am. A 4K 60p camera that doesn’t overheat* is a good sign for Canon. Makes me hopeful for the R5 and R6 Mark ii

Any similar stories, insights and disagreements are welcomed below

I am not a Sony fan boy, and shoot a lot of video with the R5. I also shoot skateboarders.

But if you are serious about slow motion and video quality, then the Sony fx3 or a7s iii is better than any of the Canon offerings. They shoot 4K 60p and 4K 120P with no overheating (fx3), no line skipping, and full frame.

Here is a skateboarding example shot in 4K 120p:

https://youtu.be/wb07_yXaKJk

The GoPro Hero 10 also shoots high quality 4K 120p, and gives you a wide perspective you may need - in your video in many of your shots you cut off subjects because you are too close or not zooming or panning fast enough. Zooming is really important for following action, and many Sony zoom llenses are near parfocal. A crop camera (APS-C) makes shooting fast action more difficult.

FX30 and 3 have no EVF this make them hard to use outdoor. If you add monitir the it is cumberson as stated in this thread before

seragram wrote:

Markr041 wrote:

Able1039 wrote:

I’ve been desperately trying to find a reliable way to shoot 4K 60 in a small form a factor. The Canon cameras that offer 4K 60fps are listed below with their weaknesses.

R6- beautiful but overheats

R5- overheats. Adding Atomos Ninja makes it cumbersome

R5 C- chews through a battery in 30 minutes. Adding battery grip makes cumbersome

C70- crop sensor, large body

IDX and R3 - price and size

I usually film skateboarding events at 1080p 60fps but this weekend I decided to bump it up to 4K 60p on my R6. There were 3 events with an hour cool down in between. I got about 30 minutes each event of 4K 60 until it overheated and the rest was shot full HD. When I finally edited the video this weekend I was stunned at how good the 4K 60p was. Crispy, able to slow mo, add stabilization in post, crop in… it was a dream come true. I couldn’t fathom going back to simply full HD. Here’s what I shot

https://youtu.be/CIednx5xS9M

All week I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to shoot more 4K 60p with Canon and kept running into issue after issue. I was particularly disappointed with the R5C. I shoot weddings as well and needed a B and C camera for ceremonies that shoot 4K and most importantly a 4K 60p camera for dreamy slow motion shot with a Ronin S. The only viable option I’ve found is the R7. I figure I’ll connect it to my Ronin, pop on my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I’ve got an equivalent 28-56mm f2.8. Not bad.
I’m just sharing my experience with guys just in case someone else is going through the same dilemma I am. A 4K 60p camera that doesn’t overheat* is a good sign for Canon. Makes me hopeful for the R5 and R6 Mark ii

Any similar stories, insights and disagreements are welcomed below

I am not a Sony fan boy, and shoot a lot of video with the R5. I also shoot skateboarders.

But if you are serious about slow motion and video quality, then the Sony fx3 or a7s iii is better than any of the Canon offerings. They shoot 4K 60p and 4K 120P with no overheating (fx3), no line skipping, and full frame.

Here is a skateboarding example shot in 4K 120p:

https://youtu.be/wb07_yXaKJk

The GoPro Hero 10 also shoots high quality 4K 120p, and gives you a wide perspective you may need - in your video in many of your shots you cut off subjects because you are too close or not zooming or panning fast enough. Zooming is really important for following action, and many Sony zoom llenses are near parfocal. A crop camera (APS-C) makes shooting fast action more difficult.

FX30 and 3 have no EVF this make them hard to use outdoor. If you add monitir the it is cumberson as stated in this thread before

Shooting fast-moving action for video using an EVF is not necessary and may even limit camera movement. There is zero need for a monitor, given the very flexible lcd screen.

If you are worried about sunlight (a legitimate concern), if you turn on camera sunny mode, there is no problem. I guess you have not used either the fx30 or fx3.