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What I look for in a Canon compact.

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Gesture Forum Pro • Posts: 10,236
What I look for in a Canon compact.
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Canon compacts are my everyday, carry with me cameras.

My favorites are the Powershot S100 and the Powershot 300HS.  Both produce wonderful images.  But sometimes, the poor handling of skies, dynamic range, rears its ugly head, as it does on my SX 260 HS and EOS-M.  No, reducing exposure isn't the solution.  Those sensors just have poor dynamic range and can't handle highlights well, as silly as that may seem.

What are your experiences and recommendations.  I'd even consider the near-APS-C compacts, but not if the sensor can't capture an everyday, normally lit, not even that bright scene.

Thanks.

Powershot S100

KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,910
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

Gesture wrote:

Canon compacts are my everyday, carry with me cameras.

My favorites are the Powershot S100 and the Powershot 300HS. Both produce wonderful images. But sometimes, the poor handling of skies, dynamic range, rears its ugly head, as it does on my SX 260 HS and EOS-M. No, reducing exposure isn't the solution. Those sensors just have poor dynamic range and can't handle highlights well, as silly as that may seem.

What are your experiences and recommendations. I'd even consider the near-APS-C compacts, but not if the sensor can't capture an everyday, normally lit, not even that bright scene.

M200 and M50 have amazing DR.

Thanks.

Powershot S100

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RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,427
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Actually the original M itself is quite capable; it's just the default exposure it, not smart, and you need to shoot RAW which on the original M, is downright poor performance in terms of FPS capable. I don't know if the original M has highlight tone priority, but if it does, use it and shoot RAW. That'll give you a lot right off the bat, no purchase needed. BTW, I think the PowerShot S100 may support this too, have a look. Give your PowerShot and your original M some more oomph. Should also add, processing these in a modern post processor gives noise reduction a substantial lift over in-camera JPEG too. Both DPP4 (free) and other post processors help. Now again, RAW performance on those cameras is slow, maybe 1 FPS though.

I'm going to side with KEG and say, M200 and M50 are huge lifts over the original M.

Also, the M5, M6, M100, all also share ADC on sensor. You need not go all the way to the latest and greatest. DIGIC7 and the 80D sensor goes a long ways. I do recommend an M200, M50 or M6 II though just so you get DIGIC8; much better AF.

The G1X Mark III itself uses the 80D sensor (ADC onboard) and DIGIC7. It's worth a shout if you want to stay in the PowerShot family. It really is cooking if you ask me. I've shot both the G5X II and G1X III, and I'll say, it really depends what you want to do. Both give unique benefits. I personally favor the G1X III, but, the G5X II's lens is really something with it's reach and speed (aperture).

The G1X III though on the other hand just has more image quality. It is APS-C after all. No way around it, more resolution, more color accuracy. Coin toss.

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OP Gesture Forum Pro • Posts: 10,236
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

Thanks.  May look at that M200.

MichielBd Regular Member • Posts: 152
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Gesture wrote:

Thanks. May look at that M200.

I would not buy the M200 if I were you. It has great image quality combined with the right lens. But I found it to be difficult to hold with for example the EF-M 32mm even with the EH31-FJ face jacket (if you can still get one).

It also has some childish quirks. Like the strange in camera raw processing and the fact that you can't rotate the images 180 degrees in camera.

KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,910
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

MichielBd wrote:

Gesture wrote:

Thanks. May look at that M200.

I would not buy the M200 if I were you. It has great image quality combined with the right lens. But I found it to be difficult to hold with for example the EF-M 32mm even with the EH31-FJ face jacket (if you can still get one).

It also has some childish quirks. Like the strange in camera raw processing and the fact that you can't rotate the images 180 degrees in camera.

I am fairly sure that none of the EOS cams support 180 degrees rotation in one step, but both M6 and R support 90 degree rotation.

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OP Gesture Forum Pro • Posts: 10,236
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

Thanks.

axlotl Senior Member • Posts: 2,273
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Biennale of Sydney Canon G1X.3  Extreme subject brightness range from direct sun on the rock wall at the rear ro dimly lit dark clothing nearer the camera.

Having used many compacts over the years I now have just one, the Powershot G1X.3 and use it frequently even though I have FF RF gear. It's not inexpensive but the results are very good. I shoot Raw and find the files respond well to asjustments in Adobe Camera Raw.

Fortunately the compact camera is not quite dead yet.

Andrew

MichielBd Regular Member • Posts: 152
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

KEG wrote:

MichielBd wrote:

Gesture wrote:

Thanks. May look at that M200.

I would not buy the M200 if I were you. It has great image quality combined with the right lens. But I found it to be difficult to hold with for example the EF-M 32mm even with the EH31-FJ face jacket (if you can still get one).

It also has some childish quirks. Like the strange in camera raw processing and the fact that you can't rotate the images 180 degrees in camera.

I am fairly sure that none of the EOS cams support 180 degrees rotation in one step, but both M6 and R support 90 degree rotation.

Ok I should have explained this point a little better.

The screen of the M200 can tilt up but it can't tilt down. So if you want to make an overhead shot you and you still want to see wat you are shooting you have a "problem". To overcome this "problem" you can shoot the camera upsite down. Then your flip up screen becomes a "flip down screen".

However if you have taken the shot the camera doesn't automatically rotate the image to the right orientation. So you have to do this manually. But in the camera there are only options to rotate the image 90 degrees. On any other camera this wouldn't be a problem because you can rotate the images twice but the M200 simply doesn't except a second rotation.

The only other camera with a flip up only screen I have is a Sony HX90  if  I use that camera upside down the picture is automatically rotated. My Canon G9X II doesn't do that but it has an option to rotate images 180 degrees in one step.

So It is childish of Canon not to allow 180 degrees rotation of images in the M200.

Swerky Contributing Member • Posts: 793
Re: What I look for in a Canon compact.

Gesture wrote:

Canon compacts are my everyday, carry with me cameras.

My favorites are the Powershot S100 and the Powershot 300HS. Both produce wonderful images. But sometimes, the poor handling of skies, dynamic range, rears its ugly head, as it does on my SX 260 HS and EOS-M. No, reducing exposure isn't the solution. Those sensors just have poor dynamic range and can't handle highlights well, as silly as that may seem.

What are your experiences and recommendations. I'd even consider the near-APS-C compacts, but not if the sensor can't capture an everyday, normally lit, not even that bright scene.

Thanks.

Powershot S100

I second a poster on the thread and recommend the Powershot G1X Mark III as well.
It has a very capable APS-C sensor that will render very good results, much more so when edited. I usually take my full frame kit when travelling, but this time I decided to go lighter and I've just returned from a two week trip, and I have to say that camera didn't disappoint. Sure it's a bit short on telephoto as it maxes at 72mm and I might have missed the odd bird here and there that I'd fancied shooting, but those would make about 15% of my total shots. Anyway if one wants a telephoto lens, one wouldn't choose that camera. 
It has plenty of buttons and dials to control your settings, more so than say an m200, it's weather resistant, did get splashed by a bit of sea water and survived. Have to wipe immediately in any case. Has a built in ND filter should you find yourself in very bright scenes or want to try some long exposures.

I've posted a couple of albums on the forum should you wish to check them out.

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