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AF Oly 40 150 f2.8 slower than Oly 100-400

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al404
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AF Oly 40 150 f2.8 slower than Oly 100-400

I did take quite a lot of shots with Pro Capture L and Burst in AF-C and Oly 40 150 f2.8 seems to focus slower than Oly 100-400

I was wondering why is not full compatible with OM-1 burst mode

Did anybody else experience the same thing?

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Jack Tingle
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al404 wrote:

I did take quite a lot of shots with Pro Capture L and Burst in AF-C and Oly 40 150 f2.8 seems to focus slower than Oly 100-400

I was wondering why is not full compatible with OM-1 burst mode

Did anybody else experience the same thing?

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Peter Heckert2
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I found the Olympus 100-400 is definitely faster, when the focus limiter is on.
Also stabilization ist better and better stabilization makes it easier for the camera to find focus.

This might explain it.

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Albert Valentino Veteran Member • Posts: 9,762
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I believe that when a lens focuses it always uses the widest aperture available to get the most light to focus the 40-150 would therefore have 4x the light. This is why to see what the resulting shot will look like one need to use the DOF preview button which closes the shutter down to see what the DOF for the captured image. I use DOF preview option a lot when shooting macro. Also, for the mentioned lenses I believe the 40-150 has a faster focus motor, but also try to use the Limit switch to minimize the range a lens hunts, especially when using macro like the 60mm macro (which focuses much slower than my old 40-150 Pro). Bottom line, what you are experiencing seems normal

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Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
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Curious what you're measuring, time to acquire focus or retaining focus on moving subjects? Only have the 40-150 and 300, each of which seems able to stick on moving subjects like glue with the OM1 (and E-M1ii/iii). Additionally, they are two of the six lenses that can access 50fps SH2, a different speed metric.

Time to acquire in a worst-case scenario (nearest to infinity or vice versa) could favor the 300 based on using its focus limit feature, something shared by the 100-400 and not present on the 40-150. OTOH the 40-150 has split focus groups to reduce moving mass. Among those differences there could be advantages and disadvantages among the three lenses.

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Re: AF Oly 40 150 f2.8 slower than Oly 100-400

@Albert Valentino 40-150 f2.8 doesn't have any focus limiter switch, I also use the lens mostly wide open

@Skeeterbytes I see that on E-M1 III 40-150 f2.8 is slower in keeping subject in focus with AF-C or ProCapture L

100-400mm is faster

I did shot some dragonfly and 40-150 f2.8 was slower and got less hitrate

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Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
Re: AF Oly 40 150 f2.8 slower than Oly 100-400

al404 wrote:

@Albert Valentino 40-150 f2.8 doesn't have any focus limiter switch, I also use the lens mostly wide open

@Skeeterbytes I see that on E-M1 III 40-150 f2.8 is slower in keeping subject in focus with AF-C or ProCapture L

100-400mm is faster

I did shot some dragonfly and 40-150 f2.8 was slower and got less hitrate

What is your C-AF sensitivity setting? +1 or 2 are the most reactive, -1 or 2 prevent focus jumps but will not track as quickly.

Cheers,

Rick

ETA the 100-400 specs show a linear focus motor, perhaps something from the Sigma parts bin. Only linear-motor Oly lenses I'm aware of are the SWDs, and perhaps that gives the new zoom extra-fast focusing. Seem to recall Oly folks claiming the 150-400 is their fastest, topping the 300 as the champ in the lineup. How the 100-400 slots in is anyone's guess.

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ProDude Senior Member • Posts: 4,857
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If you're talking about the Olympus 100-400 that sells for around $1400 there's nearly NO way it would focus faster then the 40-150 f2.8 Pro lens which has dual Voice Coil motors driving it's glass. Those suckers are lightning fast. And every place I've seen reviews and such about it states it's focus speeds being instantaneous. I don't see the 100-400 matching that in any way shape or form

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C-AF sensitivity setting is +2

I was shooting close up not sure it this can make any difference

I just publish the gallery on flickr ( link below )

I was surprise of 40-150 2.8 being less cable to keep up with insects fast movement since I alway read about how fast it is

https://www.flickr.com/photos/al404/albums/72177720299739252

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ProDude Senior Member • Posts: 4,857
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al404 wrote:

@Albert Valentino 40-150 f2.8 doesn't have any focus limiter switch, I also use the lens mostly wide open

@Skeeterbytes I see that on E-M1 III 40-150 f2.8 is slower in keeping subject in focus with AF-C or ProCapture L

100-400mm is faster

I did shot some dragonfly and 40-150 f2.8 was slower and got less hitrate

Not sure what OM settings you would have used. On an OM-1 there are a plethora of settings one could adjust to accommodate any changes as you described. I still don't believe under proper setup a 40-150 f2.8 wouldnt' trounce the focus speeds of a Oly 100-400.  Those VCM motors rock!

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al404 wrote:

C-AF sensitivity setting is +2

I was shooting close up not sure it this can make any difference

I just publish the gallery on flickr ( link below )

I was surprise of 40-150 2.8 being less cable to keep up with insects fast movement since I alway read about how fast it is

https://www.flickr.com/photos/al404/albums/72177720299739252

I can think of a possible explanation for what you observed.  The OM-1 focuses extremely quickly, if the target is visible in the EVF.  It however, does not focus quickly when the initial focus is poor.  If you were shooting both lenses at 150mm, the 100-400, with the much deeper depth of field for close targets would make the target more visible and more likely to focus.  If you temporarily fail to keep the insect in the frame, again the slower lens with its greater DOF might make refocusing easier.

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