The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Isola Verde wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.

No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter

Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?

NiX82 wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.

No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter

Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?

Hi! Is that on MPB's European site?

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The introduction to this UK website's reviews of the two...

For the Pen-F: "The Olympus PEN-F body only costs £999.99 / $1199, the PEN-F and M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-42mm 1-3.5-5.6 EZ Pancake lens kit £1099.99, PEN-F and the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 17mm 1:1.8 lens kit is £1199.99."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_pen_f_review

As against, for E-P7: "The Olympus E-P7 is available now in two colour combinations, white & silver or black & silver, as body only priced at £749 or as a kit with the M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ lens for £849."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_e_p7_review

So £250 more, either body-only, or with the EZ kitlens - before currency fluctuations, inflation etc.

Peter

Isola Verde wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

On a side note, the price range of the PEN-F, used, is 749 EUR to 864 EUR.

The price of the PEN E-P7, new, is 849 EUR body only, and 949 EUR with the 14-42mm pancake lens.

No idea whether their mainland Europe operation has any, but MPB in the UK have several E-P7 camera bodies, in "Like New" condition, priced at £504... which is some 580 Euro, I think?

Got mine, from the UK site, almost a year ago now.

They've also got no less than eighteen Pen-Fs at the moment - with those in "Excellent" condition (their next step down from "Like New") priced at £729.

More than I was, or am, prepared to pay!

Peter

Oddly enough, I see the PEN-Fs but not the PEN E-P7s on MPB.

Any idea how much the PEN-F was sold at when it was released?

Hi! Is that on MPB's European site?

*******************************************

The introduction to this UK website's reviews of the two...

For the Pen-F: "The Olympus PEN-F body only costs £999.99 / $1199, the PEN-F and M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-42mm 1-3.5-5.6 EZ Pancake lens kit £1099.99, PEN-F and the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 17mm 1:1.8 lens kit is £1199.99."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_pen_f_review

As against, for E-P7: "The Olympus E-P7 is available now in two colour combinations, white & silver or black & silver, as body only priced at £749 or as a kit with the M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ lens for £849."

https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_e_p7_review

So £250 more, either body-only, or with the EZ kitlens - before currency fluctuations, inflation etc.

Peter

Thanks Peter, super helpful!

And yes, that's using the non-UK European version of MBP.

Looking at some pictures, it seems as if they hand out the "excellent condition" quite generously!

NiX82 wrote:

BruceRH wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

Hey folks!

I took immense pleasure reading this post, as I've been contemplating purchasing the EP-7 myself.

This being said, as i already own the OM-5 (and the OM-1), I find it hard to justify the purchase... however good looking the EP-7 appears to be!

Some already commented on this, but I'm keen to hear from people who have owned both the Pen-F (can be found used in Europe) and the EP-7 (can be found new).

I've owned the Fuji X100v in the past and, as I'm left eye dominant, the viewfinder was actually annoying at times in my experience!

I look forward to reading you all!

The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!

I like how you think, I'd love to get both! But then I'm pretty sure I'd have to sleep in my car for the better part of 2023!

So looks aside, you would say you enjoy using your PEN-F more than your EP-7 (which you enjoy nonetheless)?

It's a shame it's no longer possible to find them other than online. I wish I could start by holding one in person; that would be a good start!

I enjoy them both but the big thing is that the Pen-F has an EVF. Build quality for the Pen-F is also nicer but I was pleasantly surprised about the EP-7 quality, it is really quite nice. So the Pen-F is slightly bigger, has a FAS and an EVF, comes in silver or black. The EP-7 is slightly smaller with a tilt screen and silver only. Image quality is going to be basically the same. It really comes down to your preferences.

BruceRH wrote:

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The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!

Had a GRIII (x) as well, too small and light for me.  But nice images.

BruceRH wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

BruceRH wrote:

NiX82 wrote:

Hey folks!

I took immense pleasure reading this post, as I've been contemplating purchasing the EP-7 myself.

This being said, as i already own the OM-5 (and the OM-1), I find it hard to justify the purchase... however good looking the EP-7 appears to be!

Some already commented on this, but I'm keen to hear from people who have owned both the Pen-F (can be found used in Europe) and the EP-7 (can be found new).

I've owned the Fuji X100v in the past and, as I'm left eye dominant, the viewfinder was actually annoying at times in my experience!

I look forward to reading you all!

The Pen-F is, well, the Pen-F. It is wonderful to use. I have an OM-1, EM5 MKiii and now an EP-7. I sold my EM10 MKiv in favor of the EP-7 because it is even smaller. The EP-7 is more for social situations where I will need a small flash such as at a restaurant. I also really like the tilt screen. The OM-1 is more my wildlife camera, the EM5 MKiii for city and travel but so is the Pen-F. At some point the 5 will be sold but no way for the Pen-F. If you can find a nice Pen-F, that is the one I would choose. The EP-7 (I like it way more than I thought I would) is a very nice camera but the Pen-F wins easily between the two for me. Get both if you can 😁

I also had the X100V but sold it after getting the Ricoh GRIII, a fantastic camera!

I like how you think, I'd love to get both! But then I'm pretty sure I'd have to sleep in my car for the better part of 2023!

So looks aside, you would say you enjoy using your PEN-F more than your EP-7 (which you enjoy nonetheless)?

It's a shame it's no longer possible to find them other than online. I wish I could start by holding one in person; that would be a good start!

I enjoy them both but the big thing is that the Pen-F has an EVF. Build quality for the Pen-F is also nicer but I was pleasantly surprised about the EP-7 quality, it is really quite nice. So the Pen-F is slightly bigger, has a FAS and an EVF, comes in silver or black. The EP-7 is slightly smaller with a tilt screen and silver only. Image quality is going to be basically the same. It really comes down to your preferences.

Some user reviews said that the AF of PenF is very slow, and keep hunting in low light. 
And Pen-F is not light at all in my opinion

GutiWong wrote:

Some user reviews said that the AF of PenF is very slow, and keep hunting in low light.
And Pen-F is not light at all in my opinion

I guess it all depends what you’re used to. The PEN-F is neither the fastest- nor the slowest-focusing camera I own, but it seems perfectly adequate. I suspect the E-P7 edges it out, though (haven’t done a rigorous side-by-side comparo).

The PEN-F does have a nice heft for its size, on account of its all-metal construction, but I’d still consider it an objectively lightweight camera at well under 500 grams. Here again the E-P7 has the advantage though, if you prioritize smaller dimensions and lesser weight.