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The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

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Ken Prager Regular Member • Posts: 443
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Thanks to everyone who responded!

I’ll have to adjust my GR IIIx lcd screen settings for use in bright sunlight to see if that helps. The E-P7 looks very compelling! I may have to give it a try. 😉

Promeneur Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings.  But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?  Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like.  Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later.  I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today.  And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150.  Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

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Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good
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Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes  doesn’t quite work  I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion   And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

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Promeneur Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes doesn’t quite work I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

I went back through this thread and in particular took a close look at the photos you have posted and those of slow_cooker. Took a good look at the exif as well. Wow, first so many great photos and you both have demonstrated that in capable hands that the E-P7 is really a nice camera. It nearly “ticks off all the boxes” for me! I’m ok without an EVF and in fact find an EVF a bit of a disadvantage for “street” imho. And with shorter focal lengths for out and about photos an LCD works fine for me to compose.

With all the current speculation of what Panasonic is going to do next I decided to push the button again and the E-P7 does not seem to be coming to the USA and you can’t find it at FNAC in France either, so does not seem to be available in Europe. FNAC also has stores in six other European countries. I was curious to see if I could find it in Europe at a retailer I am familiar with. I don’t want to buy a GX9 either as it offers nothing more than my G95. I do like my GX85, but I bought it for the kit lens included which makes it such a great deal when on promotion. The E-M10 Mark IV is already too big as I prefer a small rangerfinder unless of course I’m putting on a big lens and then it’s less important and then I also want an EVF. Two kits for different uses and situations. Anyway, your evaluation of the E-P7 pretty much guarantees I won’t be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way after looking at your photos I was surprised by how high you pushed the ISO at times with such great results! I will be experimenting on that with the GRIII so I can raise my minimum shutter speed to a minimum of 1/500 for night street photos. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers!

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Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes doesn’t quite work I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

I went back through this thread and in particular took a close look at the photos you have posted and those of slow_cooker. Took a good look at the exif as well. Wow, first so many great photos and you both have demonstrated that in capable hands that the E-P7 is really a nice camera. It nearly “ticks off all the boxes” for me! I’m ok without an EVF and in fact find an EVF a bit of a disadvantage for “street” imho. And with shorter focal lengths for out and about photos an LCD works fine for me to compose.

With all the current speculation of what Panasonic is going to do next I decided to push the button again and the E-P7 does not seem to be coming to the USA and you can’t find it at FNAC in France either, so does not seem to be available in Europe. FNAC also has stores in six other European countries. I was curious to see if I could find it in Europe at a retailer I am familiar with. I don’t want to buy a GX9 either as it offers nothing more than my G95. I do like my GX85, but I bought it for the kit lens included which makes it such a great deal when on promotion. The E-M10 Mark IV is already too big as I prefer a small rangerfinder unless of course I’m putting on a big lens and then it’s less important and then I also want an EVF. Two kits for different uses and situations. Anyway, your evaluation of the E-P7 pretty much guarantees I won’t be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way after looking at your photos I was surprised by how high you pushed the ISO at times with such great results! I will be experimenting on that with the GRIII so I can raise my minimum shutter speed to a minimum of 1/500 for night street photos. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers!

Thanks for the look! A few comments on what you said on the high ISO:

- generally speaking if you are shooting in low light, faster quicker shutter speeds will yield photos with a bit less noise. This is because the fact you can shoot at those speeds suggests there's stronger light in those environments that it may seem

- I really dont' think you need to push the ricoh to 1/500 other than mainly an experiment. You should be freezing people depending the situation at 1/160 to 1/250.

- Remember the Ricoh is an F2.8.  While you still benefit from better color/DR, in many ways you are drawing it back to m43rds performance. Of Course, the ricoh is completely pocketable.

- Did you try ordering the EP7 from Amazon Japan? That's what I did.

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Promeneur Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes doesn’t quite work I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

I went back through this thread and in particular took a close look at the photos you have posted and those of slow_cooker. Took a good look at the exif as well. Wow, first so many great photos and you both have demonstrated that in capable hands that the E-P7 is really a nice camera. It nearly “ticks off all the boxes” for me! I’m ok without an EVF and in fact find an EVF a bit of a disadvantage for “street” imho. And with shorter focal lengths for out and about photos an LCD works fine for me to compose.

With all the current speculation of what Panasonic is going to do next I decided to push the button again and the E-P7 does not seem to be coming to the USA and you can’t find it at FNAC in France either, so does not seem to be available in Europe. FNAC also has stores in six other European countries. I was curious to see if I could find it in Europe at a retailer I am familiar with. I don’t want to buy a GX9 either as it offers nothing more than my G95. I do like my GX85, but I bought it for the kit lens included which makes it such a great deal when on promotion. The E-M10 Mark IV is already too big as I prefer a small rangerfinder unless of course I’m putting on a big lens and then it’s less important and then I also want an EVF. Two kits for different uses and situations. Anyway, your evaluation of the E-P7 pretty much guarantees I won’t be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way after looking at your photos I was surprised by how high you pushed the ISO at times with such great results! I will be experimenting on that with the GRIII so I can raise my minimum shutter speed to a minimum of 1/500 for night street photos. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers!

Thanks for the look! A few comments on what you said on the high ISO:

- generally speaking if you are shooting in low light, faster quicker shutter speeds will yield photos with a bit less noise. This is because the fact you can shoot at those speeds suggests there's stronger light in those environments that it may seem

- I really dont' think you need to push the ricoh to 1/500 other than mainly an experiment. You should be freezing people depending the situation at 1/160 to 1/250.

- Remember the Ricoh is an F2.8. While you still benefit from better color/DR, in many ways you are drawing it back to m43rds performance. Of Course, the ricoh is completely pocketable.

- Did you try ordering the EP7 from Amazon Japan? That's what I did.

The reason I put it at a minimum shutter speed of 1/500 rather than 1/250 is that sometimes at 1/250 if the person is moving their hands quickly that's where I get some blur. But, yes in general 1/250 would be plenty fast.  It also gives me a margin of error if the movement is me.  I'll play around with it and try different shutter speeds.

Yes, I ordered it yesterday from Amazon Japan.  And so did some others as the vender who is filling the order is no longer appearing when I log on to Amazon Japan and do a search.  No doubt he sold out the other three he had on hand.  Anyone here, push the button?  Amazon tracking shows it as "Ordered Today" while my bank shows it as the sale as "pending".  Do you recall how long a time it took from the time you placed the order until tracking showed it shipped on your Amazon Japan account?  Amazon says I should have it between August 15th and the 18th both online and in the email confirming the order.  I also paid priority International Shipping which was only a few US dollars more than standard International.  I'm just a big kid and already downloaded the User manual! 

(unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 47,805
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes doesn’t quite work I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

I went back through this thread and in particular took a close look at the photos you have posted and those of slow_cooker. Took a good look at the exif as well. Wow, first so many great photos and you both have demonstrated that in capable hands that the E-P7 is really a nice camera. It nearly “ticks off all the boxes” for me! I’m ok without an EVF and in fact find an EVF a bit of a disadvantage for “street” imho. And with shorter focal lengths for out and about photos an LCD works fine for me to compose.

With all the current speculation of what Panasonic is going to do next I decided to push the button again and the E-P7 does not seem to be coming to the USA and you can’t find it at FNAC in France either, so does not seem to be available in Europe. FNAC also has stores in six other European countries. I was curious to see if I could find it in Europe at a retailer I am familiar with. I don’t want to buy a GX9 either as it offers nothing more than my G95. I do like my GX85, but I bought it for the kit lens included which makes it such a great deal when on promotion. The E-M10 Mark IV is already too big as I prefer a small rangerfinder unless of course I’m putting on a big lens and then it’s less important and then I also want an EVF. Two kits for different uses and situations. Anyway, your evaluation of the E-P7 pretty much guarantees I won’t be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way after looking at your photos I was surprised by how high you pushed the ISO at times with such great results! I will be experimenting on that with the GRIII so I can raise my minimum shutter speed to a minimum of 1/500 for night street photos. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers!

Thanks for the look! A few comments on what you said on the high ISO:

- generally speaking if you are shooting in low light, faster quicker shutter speeds will yield photos with a bit less noise. This is because the fact you can shoot at those speeds suggests there's stronger light in those environments that it may seem

- I really dont' think you need to push the ricoh to 1/500 other than mainly an experiment. You should be freezing people depending the situation at 1/160 to 1/250.

- Remember the Ricoh is an F2.8. While you still benefit from better color/DR, in many ways you are drawing it back to m43rds performance. Of Course, the ricoh is completely pocketable.

- Did you try ordering the EP7 from Amazon Japan? That's what I did.

The reason I put it at a minimum shutter speed of 1/500 rather than 1/250 is that sometimes at 1/250 if the person is moving their hands quickly that's where I get some blur. But, yes in general 1/250 would be plenty fast. It also gives me a margin of error if the movement is me. I'll play around with it and try different shutter speeds.

Yes, I ordered it yesterday from Amazon Japan. And so did some others as the vender who is filling the order is no longer appearing when I log on to Amazon Japan and do a search. No doubt he sold out the other three he had on hand. Anyone here, push the button? Amazon tracking shows it as "Ordered Today" while my bank shows it as the sale as "pending". Do you recall how long a time it took from the time you placed the order until tracking showed it shipped on your Amazon Japan account? Amazon says I should have it between August 15th and the 18th both online and in the email confirming the order. I also paid priority International Shipping which was only a few US dollars more than standard International. I'm just a big kid and already downloaded the User manual!

It was all pretty quick for me. But Amazon Japan was the one selling it, not a sub-vendor.

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Promeneur Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Promeneur wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

I find the GRIIIx a bit better. It's also higher resolution and the camera has an amazing touch screen UI.

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

It was going to be the other way around, but the GRIIIx doesn't focus as well/fast on lower light and since I do a lot of street night life, that killed it for me.

I agree that the GRIII does not focus fast enough for street photography in low light in general settings. But, I'm wondering if you had a chance to try "Snap Focus" at night?

yes doesn’t quite work I have to shoot at f2.8 making DOF tricky

I can imagine someone going to the Himalayas to train with a zen Ricoh guru may be able to completely predict distances but that requires like 4 years in seclusion And a lot of my situations are unfolding dynamically so I would have to change distances and at that point show may be gone

Looking at some photos I took at night when I first got my GRIIIx doing "Street" I can see I missed about three to get one I really like. Not sure why I kept the three bad shots, maybe to review later. I used SNAP this morning when I saw a bunch of Paparazzi set up to get photos of Trump when he comes out of court today. And from another perspective a great shot with my GX85 and 45 - 150. Shots of the Paparazzi are what I wanted of course!

That said, the GRIII/GRIIIx is superbly well designed. Probably best UI/feature set I have seen in a camera & usability - at that size in particular and for street.

The EP7, still good. It's dials inspire confidence in use.

Thank in advance!

I went back through this thread and in particular took a close look at the photos you have posted and those of slow_cooker. Took a good look at the exif as well. Wow, first so many great photos and you both have demonstrated that in capable hands that the E-P7 is really a nice camera. It nearly “ticks off all the boxes” for me! I’m ok without an EVF and in fact find an EVF a bit of a disadvantage for “street” imho. And with shorter focal lengths for out and about photos an LCD works fine for me to compose.

With all the current speculation of what Panasonic is going to do next I decided to push the button again and the E-P7 does not seem to be coming to the USA and you can’t find it at FNAC in France either, so does not seem to be available in Europe. FNAC also has stores in six other European countries. I was curious to see if I could find it in Europe at a retailer I am familiar with. I don’t want to buy a GX9 either as it offers nothing more than my G95. I do like my GX85, but I bought it for the kit lens included which makes it such a great deal when on promotion. The E-M10 Mark IV is already too big as I prefer a small rangerfinder unless of course I’m putting on a big lens and then it’s less important and then I also want an EVF. Two kits for different uses and situations. Anyway, your evaluation of the E-P7 pretty much guarantees I won’t be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way after looking at your photos I was surprised by how high you pushed the ISO at times with such great results! I will be experimenting on that with the GRIII so I can raise my minimum shutter speed to a minimum of 1/500 for night street photos. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers!

Thanks for the look! A few comments on what you said on the high ISO:

- generally speaking if you are shooting in low light, faster quicker shutter speeds will yield photos with a bit less noise. This is because the fact you can shoot at those speeds suggests there's stronger light in those environments that it may seem

- I really dont' think you need to push the ricoh to 1/500 other than mainly an experiment. You should be freezing people depending the situation at 1/160 to 1/250.

- Remember the Ricoh is an F2.8. While you still benefit from better color/DR, in many ways you are drawing it back to m43rds performance. Of Course, the ricoh is completely pocketable.

- Did you try ordering the EP7 from Amazon Japan? That's what I did.

The reason I put it at a minimum shutter speed of 1/500 rather than 1/250 is that sometimes at 1/250 if the person is moving their hands quickly that's where I get some blur. But, yes in general 1/250 would be plenty fast. It also gives me a margin of error if the movement is me. I'll play around with it and try different shutter speeds.

Yes, I ordered it yesterday from Amazon Japan. And so did some others as the vender who is filling the order is no longer appearing when I log on to Amazon Japan and do a search. No doubt he sold out the other three he had on hand. Anyone here, push the button? Amazon tracking shows it as "Ordered Today" while my bank shows it as the sale as "pending". Do you recall how long a time it took from the time you placed the order until tracking showed it shipped on your Amazon Japan account? Amazon says I should have it between August 15th and the 18th both online and in the email confirming the order. I also paid priority International Shipping which was only a few US dollars more than standard International. I'm just a big kid and already downloaded the User manual!

It was all pretty quick for me. But Amazon Japan was the one selling it, not a sub-vendor.

Yes, Amazon Japan is also the one selling it to me as well.  They do show a couple of sources and the one I am receiving is shipping from Osaka.  I paid US$633.96 which includes expedited shipping for only a few dollars more than regualr shipping which is still reasonably fast.  It has now shipped, I have a tracking number and should receive it by Wednesday August 17th. I'll start a new thread after I have had it for a week or two and share my impressions.  Thank you for all your replies and suggestions to improve my "street" photography skills.

I would also like to thank uniball for suggesting and providing the link to Amazon Japan!

Isola Verde
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Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

11!!!!!!Promeneur wrote:

Yes, Amazon Japan is also the one selling it to me as well. They do show a couple of sources and the one I am receiving is shipping from Osaka. I paid US$633.96 which includes expedited shipping for only a few dollars more than regualr shipping which is still reasonably fast. It has now shipped, I have a tracking number and should receive it by Wednesday August 17th. I'll start a new thread after I have had it for a week or two and share my impressions. Thank you for all your replies and suggestions to improve my "street" photography skills.

I would also like to thank uniball for suggesting and providing the link to Amazon Japan!

Hope you'll like it as much as I do mine!

For whatever reason, they decided that we Europeans would go for it, and disappointing that even a low-key launch in the USA wasn't possible?

Peter

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Re: The Olympus Pen EP-7 is pretty good

Isola Verde wrote:

11!!!!!!Promeneur wrote:

Yes, Amazon Japan is also the one selling it to me as well. They do show a couple of sources and the one I am receiving is shipping from Osaka. I paid US$633.96 which includes expedited shipping for only a few dollars more than regualr shipping which is still reasonably fast. It has now shipped, I have a tracking number and should receive it by Wednesday August 17th. I'll start a new thread after I have had it for a week or two and share my impressions. Thank you for all your replies and suggestions to improve my "street" photography skills.

I would also like to thank uniball for suggesting and providing the link to Amazon Japan!

Hope you'll like it as much as I do mine!

For whatever reason, they decided that we Europeans would go for it, and disappointing that even a low-key launch in the USA wasn't possible?

Peter

The weird thing is that at this point, I have had 6 people comment on the camera, saying nice camera and all that. Makes me wonder if it would have appeal here in USA after all.

But at this point? Do a proper follow up and release here.

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Edmund Dorf
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I live in the US and I bought mine thru eBay from a dealer in Hong Kong last December. I contacted him before purchasing to make sure this camera had English menus. Then I completed the purchase and he shipped it 2 days later by overnight air. I received it in less than a week after I ordered it.

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Isola Verde
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Raist3d wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

11!!!!!!Promeneur wrote:

Yes, Amazon Japan is also the one selling it to me as well. They do show a couple of sources and the one I am receiving is shipping from Osaka. I paid US$633.96 which includes expedited shipping for only a few dollars more than regualr shipping which is still reasonably fast. It has now shipped, I have a tracking number and should receive it by Wednesday August 17th. I'll start a new thread after I have had it for a week or two and share my impressions. Thank you for all your replies and suggestions to improve my "street" photography skills.

I would also like to thank uniball for suggesting and providing the link to Amazon Japan!

Hope you'll like it as much as I do mine!

For whatever reason, they decided that we Europeans would go for it, and disappointing that even a low-key launch in the USA wasn't possible?

Peter

The weird thing is that at this point, I have had 6 people comment on the camera, saying nice camera and all that. Makes me wonder if it would have appeal here in USA after all.

But at this point? Do a proper follow up and release here.

My remarks were not addressed to you

I'd prefer that you didn't tell me what to do. Ever.

Peter

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Isola Verde wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

11!!!!!!Promeneur wrote:

Yes, Amazon Japan is also the one selling it to me as well. They do show a couple of sources and the one I am receiving is shipping from Osaka. I paid US$633.96 which includes expedited shipping for only a few dollars more than regualr shipping which is still reasonably fast. It has now shipped, I have a tracking number and should receive it by Wednesday August 17th. I'll start a new thread after I have had it for a week or two and share my impressions. Thank you for all your replies and suggestions to improve my "street" photography skills.

I would also like to thank uniball for suggesting and providing the link to Amazon Japan!

Hope you'll like it as much as I do mine!

For whatever reason, they decided that we Europeans would go for it, and disappointing that even a low-key launch in the USA wasn't possible?

Peter

The weird thing is that at this point, I have had 6 people comment on the camera, saying nice camera and all that. Makes me wonder if it would have appeal here in USA after all.

But at this point? Do a proper follow up and release here.

My remarks were not addressed to you

I'd prefer that you didn't tell me what to do. Ever.

1) You are replying on a subthread that replied to me so don't care much for your "warning"

2) I was *definitively NOT* telling you what to do. Unless you are some kind of OMDS manager with power of decision of what comes after the EP7 camera model. I was talking about the company OMDS doing a proper follow up to the EP7 and new release of a camera model.

I wonder what kind of bias you have against me specifically or if you are just jumpy on edge. Which is understandable in today's world, but seems worth thinking about why the reaction. Maybe just an honest misunderstanding.

* The last paragraph is not in any shape or form me trying to tell you to do anything either, just observational in nature.

Peter

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Wow I really didn't expect this many people have replied to my post! I got caught up in work and didn't have time for a while. Super glad to see the EP-7 gets some love and takes great photos!

After 4 months of use I have no complain, and the shutter sounds delicious now. It's such a charming camera, and it slows me down in a good way as compared to the EM1 II. I added a half case for a better grip and protection of the bottom plate.

I think there's some misunderstanding in the thread. Hope everyone keeps things fun and constructive 😁😀😸

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Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

Thank in advance!

I think you probably got the answer but I just want to offer my 2 cents. I'm using the EP-7 and the GRIII. I think the lcd screens are pretty bad in bright light, although I don't tinker with lcd brightness settings because I'm paranoid it would affect my exposure judgement, which is probably irrational😬 In my experience the GR III lcd is not better than the E-P7 lcd.

In very bright light I usually use the screen for rough composition and shoot away. I guess I've got used to shooting blind😂 If I travel to a very sunny place I'll bring a camera with an evf, although I find myself using the evf only 20% of the time. The lack of the evf is definitely a compromise in the E-P7. On the bright side, looking at a barely visible lcd is still better than shooting from the hip...

I don't think anything can replace my GR III (except maybe a GR IIIx) because it's a very unique camera. I guess whether the E-P7 can replace a GR III for you comes down to how you use your cameras. Autofocus in the E-P7 is much much better, while the GR's strength is the snap focus feature. The GR is smaller, but the E-P7 is more versatile. The m43 kit zoom is small and offers more versatile focal lengths than the GR's 28mm equivalent. I think if you tend to go slow and thoughtful, often carefully compose your images, do dedicated photowalk, or take portraits/prefer longer focal lengths, then the E-P7 is a better choice. For me who usually has only 20 minutes a day on the way home from work to snap barely-composed photos, the GR III is a better companion in those 20 minutes. The GR also comes in handy when I come across a scene where even the best autofocus is too slow. For dedicated photowalk/travel trip I prefer an interchangeable lens camera.

Regarding image quality, low light performance is better in the GR due to the sensor. In my totally unjustifiable experience the GR's low light performance is a bit better than my EM1 II even. However you can use faster lenses for the E-P7. Regarding sharpness, people say the GR's lens is sharper than a lot of m43 lenses, but I don't think it matters.

Obviously if you want to do anything video, the GR can't compete in that department😄 Hope this helps!

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Slow_cooker, I just saw your reply now. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts. It’s very helpful!

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Can the EP-7 take one of Olympus' add-on viewfinders?  There does not seem to be much info that I can find on this out there.

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DrHook59 wrote:

Can the EP-7 take one of Olympus' add-on viewfinders?

No

There does not seem to be much info that I can find on this out there.

The manual or marketing focus clearly shows an absence of this  the connector in the evf is missing for it too

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slow_cooker wrote:

Ken Prager wrote:

I have a some questions for those of you who have both the Olypmus EP-7 and Ricoh GR III / IIIx.

How does the Olympus EP-7 lcd screen compare with the Ricoh GR IIIx in bright sunlight?

Has the EP-7 replaced your GR III / IIIx?

Thank in advance!

I think you probably got the answer but I just want to offer my 2 cents. I'm using the EP-7 and the GRIII. I think the lcd screens are pretty bad in bright light, although I don't tinker with lcd brightness settings because I'm paranoid it would affect my exposure judgement, which is probably irrational😬 In my experience the GR III lcd is not better than the E-P7 lcd.

In very bright light I usually use the screen for rough composition and shoot away. I guess I've got used to shooting blind😂 If I travel to a very sunny place I'll bring a camera with an evf, although I find myself using the evf only 20% of the time. The lack of the evf is definitely a compromise in the E-P7. On the bright side, looking at a barely visible lcd is still better than shooting from the hip...

I don't think anything can replace my GR III (except maybe a GR IIIx) because it's a very unique camera. I guess whether the E-P7 can replace a GR III for you comes down to how you use your cameras. Autofocus in the E-P7 is much much better, while the GR's strength is the snap focus feature. The GR is smaller, but the E-P7 is more versatile. The m43 kit zoom is small and offers more versatile focal lengths than the GR's 28mm equivalent. I think if you tend to go slow and thoughtful, often carefully compose your images, do dedicated photowalk, or take portraits/prefer longer focal lengths, then the E-P7 is a better choice. For me who usually has only 20 minutes a day on the way home from work to snap barely-composed photos, the GR III is a better companion in those 20 minutes. The GR also comes in handy when I come across a scene where even the best autofocus is too slow. For dedicated photowalk/travel trip I prefer an interchangeable lens camera.

Regarding image quality, low light performance is better in the GR due to the sensor. In my totally unjustifiable experience the GR's low light performance is a bit better than my EM1 II even. However you can use faster lenses for the E-P7. Regarding sharpness, people say the GR's lens is sharper than a lot of m43 lenses, but I don't think it matters.

Obviously if you want to do anything video, the GR can't compete in that department😄 Hope this helps!

Very useful comparison.

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