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I wish they had updated it

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Hyper111 New Member • Posts: 24
I wish they had updated it
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This review is left in 2022. I am a fan of older Olympus cameras, as the colours are exceptionally good. However, with the advent of smartphones, manufactures have pulled from making making advanced compacts camera with PASM.

It is 2022. I am still waiting for a manufacturer to make a decent advanced compact camera. Not everyone wants to use a smartphone for photography. It takes too long to change settings etc.....

I have looked at advanced compacts from Sony, Panasonic, Fuji, Canon, Nikon etc... None seem worthy to replace my Olympus XZ-2. Although resolution has gone up, however, the colours from newer camera is just slightly off.

Still waiting....

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Olympus C-7070 Wide Zoom Olympus XZ-2 iHS Olympus PEN E-PL5 Fujifilm X-T100 Samsung Galaxy Note 4 +1 more
Olympus XZ-2 iHS
12 megapixels • 3 screen • 28 – 112 mm (4×)
Announced: Sep 17, 2012
Hyper111's score
4.5
Average community score
4.3
bad for good for
Kids / pets
great
Action / sports
acceptable
Landscapes / scenery
great
Portraits
great
Low light (without flash)
great
Flash photography (social)
okay
Studio / still life
great
= community average
InkedMarie
InkedMarie Senior Member • Posts: 2,403
Re: I wish they had updated it

I don’t own your camera but I’ve owned my Olympus Stylus 1s for six months and I feel the same. If they came out with a current model, I’d buy it.

Marie

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Olympus Stylus 1s Olympus OM-D E-M10 II Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F4-5.6 R Olympus 12-100mm F4.0 7artisans 7.5mm F2.8 Fisheye
kcdogger Veteran Member • Posts: 4,334
Re: I wish they had updated it
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InkedMarie wrote:

I don’t own your camera but I’ve owned my Olympus Stylus 1s for six months and I feel the same. If they came out with a current model, I’d buy it.

Marie

I have both - Stylus s1 and ZX2.  Super cameras.  i too would hurry to buy the updates on each.

John

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sillycornlotty
sillycornlotty Regular Member • Posts: 267
Re: I wish they had updated it

I doubt if they would listen to you, to me and to any  of us. Today's Olympus, aka OM Digital Solutions has been too busy sucking up enthusiasts money and grinding every revenue that would get from the mirrorless sector.

If i could make a wish to the guru, please grant me Olympus XZ-43, featuring fast F2.8 24-90mm lens. With fully articulate screen, pop up EVF, usb typec charging, wifi connectivity. That is what a "wow" camera should look like to non professional enthusiasts.

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ColdEd Regular Member • Posts: 285
Re: I wish they had updated it
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kcdogger wrote:

InkedMarie wrote:

I don’t own your camera but I’ve owned my Olympus Stylus 1s for six months and I feel the same. If they came out with a current model, I’d buy it.

Marie

I have both - Stylus s1 and ZX2. Super cameras. i too would hurry to buy the updates on each.

John

I own both. I haven't used the Stylus 1 as I bought it for my wife to take on a trip with her elderly Mom. My wife said she doesn't do photography, which had been true. She had only occasionally taken photos before. Said she'd take a camera if it was small and easy to use.

I told her to take the Stylus 1, it's got a nice zoom, leave it on Auto and shoot away. She brought back over 1,000 photos and - wow - they are amazing. I think she may have gotten hooked on taking pictures!

It would be nice to have had more than 12 megapixels for cropping but wow, just wow results.

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Bob A L Veteran Member • Posts: 7,071
Re: I wish they had updated it
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Make mine an Olympus Stylus 2 please. I could not get along with the no viewfinder on the other one. But the viewfinder is fantastic for a small point and shoot with the Stylus. But not really sure what they could do to improve on it. Maybe just some fancy AI processing options.

My first thoughts were maybe a 1" sensor, but I have Panasonic with 1" sensor that can't beat my Stylus 1, so not sure that would be a help and would loose some tele ability or get bigger in the process.

I also wonder if there is now no chance at all for a re-release, after the new Oly, is no longer Olympus and off on it's own way now.  But maybe a chance now for the real Olympus to come back to life with a new version???

sillycornlotty
sillycornlotty Regular Member • Posts: 267
Re: I wish they had updated it

Bob A L wrote:

Make mine an Olympus Stylus 2 please. I could not get along with the no viewfinder on the other one. But the viewfinder is fantastic for a small point and shoot with the Stylus. But not really sure what they could do to improve on it. Maybe just some fancy AI processing options.

My first thoughts were maybe a 1" sensor, but I have Panasonic with 1" sensor that can't beat my Stylus 1, so not sure that would be a help and would loose some tele ability or get bigger in the process.

I also wonder if there is now no chance at all for a re-release, after the new Oly, is no longer Olympus and off on it's own way now. But maybe a chance now for the real Olympus to come back to life with a new version???

My speculation is OM Digital Solution will soon kick the bucket if they continue their business as usual approach focusing only on MFT cameras. If their strategy is to keep increasing unit price of camera gears to fulfill needs of loyalist, eventually there will be a point where cashing in for the best gear isn't justified...and we are seeing the company heading that direction.

The most interesting speculation is that, JIP failed to develop MFT any further and Olympus buy back OM Digital Solution at fraction of its cost. If that happens, maybe we will see Stylus 2 using excessive old stockpile of MFT sensors.

I don't think Olympus / JIP will ever adapt 1" on their cameras, any additional product line is a burden to the company's camera division.

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Revenant Regular Member • Posts: 293
Re: I wish they had updated it
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Bob A L wrote:

I also wonder if there is now no chance at all for a re-release, after the new Oly, is no longer Olympus and off on it's own way now. But maybe a chance now for the real Olympus to come back to life with a new version???

The "new" Olympus, OMDS, is literally the old imaging division, albeit with a slimmer workforce. The former head of the imaging division at Olympus, Shigemi Sugimoto, is now the CEO of OMDS. They still use the same factory, and apparently has access to some R&D resources at Olympus, according to a recent interview with Imaging Resource.

I don't see Olympus carving out its imaging division in this way, of which they still own 5% by the way, and then rebuild a new imaging division and start making cameras again. Makes little sense.

Bob A L Veteran Member • Posts: 7,071
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Maybe, but I wonder what's up with not letting the new "owners" use long standing product names anymore.  Sounds like they "might" decide to revive down the line.

Michael Meissner
Michael Meissner Forum Pro • Posts: 27,998
Re: I wish they had updated it

Bob A L wrote:

Make mine an Olympus Stylus 2 please. I could not get along with the no viewfinder on the other one. But the viewfinder is fantastic for a small point and shoot with the Stylus. But not really sure what they could do to improve on it. Maybe just some fancy AI processing options.

For me there are 2 major things I would want:

1) Replace the TFT-LCD viewfinder with an OLED viewfinder (used the E-m5 mark III, OM-1/5, E-m10 mark II/III/IV).  I need to wear polarized sunglasses all of the time when I'm outdoors to reduce migraines.  The TFT-LCD viewfinders have one orientation (horizontal in the case of Olympus TFT-LCD viewfinders) where viewing it through polarized sunglasses causes distortions.  On most of the cameras with TFT-LCD viewfinders, the distortions are alternating horizontal bands, some of which are clear while others aren't usable.  While I can frame shots with the Stylus-1's viewfinder using the areas of the screen that aren't distorted, it is annoying.

2) Make it splash resistant.  Sure, IP-53 that the OM-5 and OM-1 use is very nice, I found in practice the IP-X1 level that the older Olympus E-m5 and E-m1 bodies had was sufficient.

While it would also be nice to have the ability to use USB C-PD to power the camera and charge batteries, and shoot video longer than 30 minutes, I don't really need that in the Stylus-1 replacement.

Now with an E-m5 mark III/OM-5 and an Olympus 14-150mm mark II f/4-5.6, I can replicate the range of the Stylus-1 (35mm film camera 28-300 equivalent focal range).  But what made the Stylus-1 special is it could fit in larger jacket pockets.

My first thoughts were maybe a 1" sensor, but I have Panasonic with 1" sensor that can't beat my Stylus 1, so not sure that would be a help and would loose some tele ability or get bigger in the process.

However, I believe the 1/1.7" sensor used in the Stylus-1 is no longer being made.

In terms of the 1" sensor, I tend to think that Panasonic just is lousy at in-camera JPEG high ISO processing.  Perhaps if Olympus had done it, it would be really nice.  Note however, since the 1" sensor is larger, that would mean the lenses would also have to be larger, slower, or have less range than the lens that the Stylus-1 had.  The 28-300mm equivalent focal length at f/2.8 really was a nice combination.

I also wonder if there is now no chance at all for a re-release, after the new Oly, is no longer Olympus and off on it's own way now. But maybe a chance now for the real Olympus to come back to life with a new version???

I think that ship has sailed.  I think in general cell phones have eliminated that market niche.

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Smaug01
MOD Smaug01 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,966
If you're open to current cameras

...you might try a Ricoh GR III.

They're more expensive than an XZ-2 and instead of having a walk-around zoom, it has a very nice prime. Image quality is better, colors are good (positive film mode) and it's MORE compact and with a MUCH larger sensor; you just lose the zoom.

If you insist on the zoom, and are willing to settle for the smaller sensor, I think the closest thing to what you want now is something in the Sony RX100 family. If you're picky about colors and Sony doesn't make just exactly what you want, just make your own color profile.

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Lucio Cicuto Regular Member • Posts: 236
Re: If you're open to current cameras
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I never concerned myself with the color on jpg files as I only shoot RAW. As someone already pointed out, set up a profile. I am also in search of the ideal pocketable camera I can carry with me everywhere when the cell phone just won't cut it. The closest I can find is the SONY RX-100 VII or the Panasonic ZS200. Both with 1" sensor.

Take an Oly TG-6 with all it's features and upgrade it with a 1" sensor, add a viewfinder and a zoom range of 24-300/400mm range. This would mean a physically slightly bigger camera. I would welcome that as I find the TG series cameras a little too small. I would buy that in an instant.

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Lucio Cicuto
Olympus OM-D E-M1 mk1, 12-100 F4, Olympus TG-4, Epson 1430

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sigamy Regular Member • Posts: 109
Re: I wish they had updated it

How does this compare to the Lumix LX7?

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