Re: An example of 60p 4k real estate drone video? Or am I being stupid?
PatriotDrone wrote:
Sorry for the delay - been a whirlwind over here! Just wanted to report in with my results.
Glad to hear you have been keeping busy. Always better to have too much work than to not have enough work.
So basically my challenge was in getting nice, crisp 4k footage while also keeping it beautifully smooth and often slow. What I've ended up doing is actually shooting a mix of 4k30 and 4k60. On most shots, I do my best to get slow, smooth footage in 4k30, which takes advantage of the full sensor, I can have the shutter speed at 1/60, and I hardly ever get noise. On shots where I'm moving close to an object in the foreground, even on the RSC2 it's very difficult to move past it both slowly and smoothly, so I'll often pull the lens out to 14mm and use the 4k60 cropped mode, which acts like a 21mm, then set the clip to 50% speed. Of course when I do that, shutter speed goes to 1/120, so the ISO often has to go up to compensate, so I get some noise on darker shots, but nothing that I can't handle in post.
While I know it is "best" to keep shutter angle at 180-degress so that the shutter is twice the frame rate, when I shoot at 60fps I often shoot closer to 360-degree shutter than to 180-degree shutter (meaning, closer to 1/60th of a second than to 1/120th of a second). I honestly don't feel it is that big of a deal. If it gives me the amount of light I want, then I don't have a problem with it not being the "appropriate" amount of motion blur.
Conversely, I sometimes RAISE the shutter speed so that it is faster than 1/120th of a second. Remember that after ISO 1600, for best noise and increased dynamic range, you should skip ISO 2000 to 3200 and just jump directly to ISO 4000 (when shooting in VLOG, it will be different for other picture profiles). So sometimes when I make the just to ISO 4000 things might be slightly over exposed and so I might choose upping the shutter speed a bit as opposed to stopping down even further.
I've also learned that the look that I REALLY like is shooting on a slider - BUT, it's already taking me 2 hours to shoot an interior with the gimbal, and I can't imagine how long it would take to lug in a slider and two tripods or whatever, and set it up how many times. My hat is off to the people that do it regularly - it's just hard to imagine being able to add that kind of time to every shoot. For those of you all who do it all the time, how long does a shoot take you on average? Just trying to figure out what might work for me.
Shooting on a slider takes me FOREVER and a day. If I were going to shoot on a slider, I would charge appropriately for the extra time it takes me to shoot. (On the other hand, the editing can be quicker).
For really "formal" looking places, maybe a slider would be a better fit for the type of property. But I think form most modern looking houses, a gimbal is better, but that is 100% just my opinion.
I still haven't ruled out the Canon 10-18, but I do wonder with its limited F-stop range that I might have some challenges versus the f2.8-22 of the Sigma! But I'll probably try it anyway, especially for the price!
I have been using it a lot for video and actually have been using it for stills, too. When shooting in stills, it does automatically use the aps-c area of the sensor (as it does when shooting video) so you will get stills that are only about 8MP in size (as opposed to getting stills that are 24MP in resolution when shooting stills with a full frame lens). This is kind of helpful for me because 8Mp is actually enough for me (I deliver 6MP images that are 3,000 X 2,000 pixels to agents), and the 8MP RAW files take up a LOT less hard disk space than the 24MP RAW files that the S5 typically writes.
I have noticed a few issues regarding ghosting / flare with the 10-18 STM lens though. I am going to investigate. Gonna try it out on Friday or saturday to see if I can consistently recrate the ghosting.
Still absolutely LOVING the S5 - again, I had no idea what I was missing. It's an incredibly capable camera and it's put me light-years ahead of where I was.
Yeah, it's a pretty good camera. If it had better continuous autofocus it would be an amazing camera. But it really is a good camera.
One thing I ended up using is the high resolution mode if you really want to crop in but you don't have a telephoto lens. It takes a series of 8 shots and combines them together so you get a high resolution photo (like 96MP or something like that) and then yoiu can crop in a LOT in post.
The only thing though is that 1) you need to use it on a tripod and 2) you will get motion artifacts from things that are moving in the scene. Best to use in situations with no movement.
