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FANTASEA FRX100 VA without vacuum

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Aigverte
Aigverte New Member • Posts: 6
FANTASEA FRX100 VA without vacuum

Hey all,

Quick question, I am currently in Belize with my RX100 III and my fantasea housing and I've just realized that I forgot the pump to seal the housing. Of course. I was wondering if it is safe to use it without pumping the air: I know there is another version of this housing without the sealing process and the pump which is basically the same. When I bought it I was told that the pumping system was just there for extra safety but that not sealing it wouldn't be an issue.

Should I try or should I sadly leave my camera at the hotel?

Thanks!

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Barmaglot_07 Contributing Member • Posts: 633
Re: FANTASEA FRX100 VA without vacuum

You can dive it, but it is not as safe, as you cannot confirm that the seal is good. However, even without the pump, you might be able to use it - try to just lock your lips around the valve and suck the air out. If the pressure differential required to trip that sensor is not too great, you should be able to make it go green that way - I've done it with a SeaFrogs VPS-100 when I've forgotten the pump at home.

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kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
Re: FANTASEA FRX100 VA without vacuum

Aigverte wrote:

Hey all,

Quick question, I am currently in Belize with my RX100 III and my fantasea housing and I've just realized that I forgot the pump to seal the housing. Of course. I was wondering if it is safe to use it without pumping the air: I know there is another version of this housing without the sealing process and the pump which is basically the same. When I bought it I was told that the pumping system was just there for extra safety but that not sealing it wouldn't be an issue.

Should I try or should I sadly leave my camera at the hotel?

Thanks!

There are a few essential parts that if you forget, you're probably SOL for the trip.  You're not going to find a spare.

1- battery charger

2- sync cord

3- zoom/focus gear

The pump is unlikely to be replaceable as well, but is not a must have.   Keep in mind that at 66 ft, the housing is under 3atm of pressure.   Whether you remove half an atm with a pump or not, the pressure at depth is much more substantial.

The vacuum you create does 3 useful functions

1- tests the integrity of the seal.   10 years ago, we just had to keep the o-rings clean and free of hairs.  The moisture tester + the rinse tank may identify a problem, but maybe not.  I did a few hundred dives without mishap.

2- prevent opening of the housing in error.  Tiny bit of value, but not something you're going to do at depth.

3- effectively reduce moisture inside - port should be less prone to fogging.   More a concern with the compacts or the gopros - sometimes had to wait a few minutes into the dive for it to go away.   In the early days with my housed 20D, I would only open and close it up in the A/C room.   But eventually I saw that everyone was changing batteries and ports on the camera table on the back of the boat and I stopped worrying.  The temp change from AC to tropical is a bigger cause of condensation.

So in your case - if you have a rinse tank, do the pre dive submerge test.   Does the housing have a moisture detector?

Have you used this housing for a number of dives in the past?   If you didn't experience an indicated vacuum seal failure before, you're probably doing alright in the handling.  But you are removing one of the safety nets.

Aigverte
OP Aigverte New Member • Posts: 6
Re: FANTASEA FRX100 VA without vacuum

Thanks guys for your detailed replies! This was roughly what I thought but having extra confirmation helped me to try it more confidently.

Yes, I dove with this housing many times before without any issue and it has a moisture detector so if I have had an issue, it would have biped. I have tried to suck the air with my lips on the second dive and it worked ^^ Good to know!

Meanwhile, fantasea emailed me back (I also contacted their customer service) and here is their reply if it can be useful to anyone in the future :

Thank You for writing to Fantasea.
You should be able to use your housing without vacuuming it.
We do suggest you take extra caution by checking it without a camera first, whether during a shallow dive or in a rinsing bucket.
Please also review your housing during the dive for any signs of leaking and if you encounter any alarming signs, ascend safely.

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