R5 vs R5C for primarily handheld (!) video

Hi,

considering to switch back to Canon after 2 years 'cheating' with Fuji - just couldn't live with the apsc crop.

So I gotta decide between the R5 and R5C - something I might have to mention is that I do handheld video, I hate gimbals, I am probably getting old - in addition, I mostly use old glass, e.g. manual focus - I probably won't be making much use of the auto focus options. I still gonna get the 24-70 for 'clinical' corporate jobs where i need reliable focus, but thats secondary.

Now, on paper it would seem that the R5 wit stabilization would be the better choice for handheld video, but I am a bit concerned about overheating issues - and on youtube, well, you don't know who to trust anymore.

I am more leaning towards the R5C because of all the additions for video, however I am just a bit worried how it will handle handheld - Of course I gonna add the battery grip, a smallrig frame/handle, monitor etc on it, so it will be heavy - e.g. stable. Of course the R5 is cheaper, especially second hand, so there is that too.

Any thoughts on that, appreciated.

George

I have the R5 & R5c and have used both. Like you I was initially concerned with the R5c’s lack of IBIS. However I’ve found if you’re using any RF lens with OIS, it’s really no concern. The IBIS actually adds very little stabilization to a lens already equipped with OIS. The bottom line is I’m delighted with the R5c and will be selling my R5.

Above is a video I shot, all handheld, with the R5c & the 100-400 RF lens. Many shots were at 400mm! You can see the stabilization is really quite good.

I just switched from R5 to R5c, having used 5D4, R for video previously on a gimbal.

If you are planning to shoot handheld only, then R5 is perfect. If you are planning to walk and shoot video, then a gimbal or glidecam is required.

There is no overheating issue with either camera after R5 firmware update unless you plan to shoot 8K raw continuously for more than 30 minutes (with R5).

R5C in video is much easier to achieve accurate colour or white balance when you shoot in 8k raw, which also comes in smaller file size-- Canon Raw LT.

Reasonable steady hands with slow movement coupled with lens OIS is adequate for video as you can also apply stabilisation in post to steady your shots.

If video is your primary reason for the gear (like me), R5C is a no brainer!

All the best!

Ken Ross wrote:

I have the R5 & R5c and have used both. Like you I was initially concerned with the R5c’s lack of IBIS. However I’ve found if you’re using any RF lens with OIS, it’s really no concern. The IBIS actually adds very little stabilization to a lens already equipped with OIS. The bottom line is I’m delighted with the R5c and will be selling my R5.

Above is a video I shot, all handheld, with the R5c & the 100-400 RF lens. Many shots were at 400mm! You can see the stabilization is really quite good.

It is a fact that IBIS does NOT contribute much stabilization for lenses above 100mm, and none likely at 400mm.

The advantage of IBIS is the ability to shoot with non-stabilized lenses below 100mm. Many excellent primes do not have OIS.

Also, IBIS provides more axes of stabilization typically than OIS, and adds axes and stability with lenses that have OIS. But one can do very well handheld with OIS lenses and no IBIS.

Markr041 wrote:

Ken Ross wrote:

I have the R5 & R5c and have used both. Like you I was initially concerned with the R5c’s lack of IBIS. However I’ve found if you’re using any RF lens with OIS, it’s really no concern. The IBIS actually adds very little stabilization to a lens already equipped with OIS. The bottom line is I’m delighted with the R5c and will be selling my R5.

Above is a video I shot, all handheld, with the R5c & the 100-400 RF lens. Many shots were at 400mm! You can see the stabilization is really quite good.

It is a fact that IBIS does NOT contribute much stabilization for lenses above 100mm, and none likely at 400mm.

The advantage of IBIS is the ability to shoot with non-stabilized lenses below 100mm. Many excellent primes do not have OIS.

Also, IBIS provides more axes of stabilization typically than OIS, and adds axes and stability with lenses that have OIS. But one can do very well handheld with OIS lenses and no IBIS.

Today I tried the non-OIS 50mm RF lens utilizing the electronic IS of the R5c. The stabilization was surprisingly good and I didn’t find the slight zoom to be a significant issue

Of course the caveat is you can’t use it when shooting 8K RAW, but the oversampled 4K60 & 4K30 is so good that it’s easy to live with that limitation when not using an OIS lens. Truth be told, I almost never use the 50mm anyway.

An interesting note on digital IS in the R5c. You are unable to use digital IS in 8K RAW, yet you can use it in the HEVC, non-RAW flavors of 8K. That would be both 8192X4320 & 7680X4320.

The quality in these modes is also excellent and since it's 10bit 4:2:2, there definitely room for some grading.