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Started Feb 3, 2022 | User reviews
jebo1 Regular Member • Posts: 457
rather complicated

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

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Fujifilm X100T
16 megapixels • 3 screen • 35 mm
Announced: Sep 10, 2014
jebo1's score
2.5
Average community score
4.4
bad for good for
Kids / pets
okay
Action / sports
okay
Landscapes / scenery
good
Portraits
mediocre
Low light (without flash)
good
Flash photography (social)
bad
Studio / still life
unrated
= community average
AE Conrady
AE Conrady Regular Member • Posts: 252
easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't
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You obviously don't like it and don't understand what's up with the camera, so I recommend to sell it. It's fine. That is not a camera for an undergrad photographer.

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Just taking pictures Regular Member • Posts: 166
Re: easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't
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AE Conrady wrote:

You obviously don't like it and don't understand what's up with the camera, so I recommend to sell it. It's fine. That is not a camera for an undergrad photographer.

Ugh, that's a tough statement. I can't work with a view camera, for instance.

Markus

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AE Conrady
AE Conrady Regular Member • Posts: 252
Re: easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't
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Just taking pictures wrote:

AE Conrady wrote:

You obviously don't like it and don't understand what's up with the camera, so I recommend to sell it. It's fine. That is not a camera for an undergrad photographer.

Ugh, that's a tough statement. I can't work with a view camera, for instance.

Markus

That is totally fine, but I assume you wouldn't make a public statement on view cameras then or say that view cameras are bad for flash photography because there isn't one build in. At least, I would not.

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Mr Bolton Senior Member • Posts: 1,468
Re: rather complicated
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jebo1 wrote:

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

This little camera has been a most valuable asset for me, even on paid shoots.  It's not good for much above ISO 3200, but the fast lens allows you to keep ISO lower and the RAWs are very malleable.

The old Fuji AF can be a little bit hit or miss, but if you know its quirks you can make up for that.

This would be a fantastic undergraduate camera-I sure wish I'd had this when I was in college!!

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Tom Schum
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Re: rather complicated
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jebo1 wrote:

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

I had this same problem with my X-E1.  My X-T100 had an off-on switch that was much more resistant to being turned on accidentally.

Unfortunately my X-T3 and X-E4 both have off-on switches that are easily turned on accidentally.  They are a little better than my X-E1 was, but not much.  I don't own a X100 of any kind.

It looks like the X100V has a better off-on switch that should be more resistant to being turned on accidentally, because the front bump on the switch is slightly recessed behind the front edge of the case.  This might be an engineering improvement.

I agree the off-on switch in Fujis is a continuing problem though.

About the flash, it might be underpowered but still good as fill flash in daylight, and with the leaf shutter the sync speed is very high.  For more, the hotshoe is available of course.

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Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,496
Re: rather complicated
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jebo1 wrote:

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

Send it to me.

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LenRivers Senior Member • Posts: 3,960
Re: rather complicated
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I have made my rounds with various systems. I used to own the X100T and X100F.  Enjoyed both. However when it came to flash needs and anything to acquire focus with speed it was not good. 
Both cameras in the span of the years of ownership and well prior to Covid  , the T i used at a milestone birthday and the F at a family wedding

Both were out of state so a travel camera better than a iPhone idea.  Heck what’s a camera of any form or manufacture or sensor size if you don’t use it. Imo anyway. 
I did attach a Nissan i60 flash and maybe the i40 with the T before the i60 existed. It’s been a minute

Just any action or video was just not good. Any snappy af nah not really. 
In Fuji world I also shot the XE-1 . XT-1 and XH-1. They were great for many things.  By the time I needed to shoot more events and had to move fast I just had to sell off the Fuji X system

went back to Nikon dslr now with Sony

The name of the camera never mattered to me  it used to  it did not serve me well to be brand loyal  what end result do I need   I have no problem with Sony Fuji Nikon Panasonic  all camera systems i have used from MFT, APSC to FF

For a special milestone birthday I had even bought myself a Leica Q2   Only reason I’ll never buy a Leica M is I just need AF as an option   
So I see this as a valid review from someone who’s been around a bit   
I have no problems recommending Fuji or the other systems  if someone asks my 2 cents I can speak to my experience

I know when the complaint has to do with cost it just means the other person does not see the value for themselves

heck a timex and Rolex tell the same time, but the Rolex time to will cost you   All said I’m sure one can not wear a watch and find a clock someplace or their cell phone

blah blah blah

Mr Bolton Senior Member • Posts: 1,468
Re: rather complicated
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My newest Fuji is the X-H1 so I feel you on last year's autofocus.  However other than that, I can't see switching to Sony because I don't need the A1's capabilities, and I didn't care for the ergos of other Sony models I've tried.  The Canon R5 was kinda the same way, its ergos made more sense but I feel like they make the most sense to a Canon shooter.  The Nikon Z felt about right, and I've heard its AF is better than most, which seemed true in my limited tests.  Panasonic seems like it would be Fuji AF all over again, except bigger and heavier (albeit very well made).

Regardless, I'd have to buy all new lenses and flash and everything..  so the new X-H2 will be cheaper to buy than it would be to switch systems.  However, if its autofocus isn't modern day spectacular then I would at least consider switching to Nikon.  Or heck, back to M43!

I am looking to update my X-100T to an F however, then everything I have will be the same sensor generation, with which I'm very happy overall.

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OP jebo1 Regular Member • Posts: 457
Re: easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't

I have no problem shooting this camera but find it overcomplicated. Take for example the menu buttons besides on the backside. It is very easy to accidentally press them and enter into macro mode. The fact that it switches on and off that easily means that I have to use the special leather case and cannot for example put it in a pouch. Thus it is not really pocketable like a rollei 35 was for example. The image quality, however, is very nice and it has a silent shutter which is a definite plus. The JPEG output would be great but since I am used to RAW for me not such a great advantage.

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Nielk Mike Senior Member • Posts: 1,480
Re: rather complicated
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jebo1 wrote:

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

Not much information in your review. From my experience with the x100v, this camera is much better than your rating. Like all Fujifilm cameras that I know, the AF is not always as accurate as I would like it to be (and the third generation likely even less so). But everything else is very good.

The control layout is good, the built in flash is not very powerful but does a good job as fill flash (and Fuji really got the balancing between ambient and fill right).

It is not a camera for super fast action, but it can do street photgraphy just fine.

It seems to me that it is just not a camera for you. And that is fine.

AE Conrady
AE Conrady Regular Member • Posts: 252
Re: easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't
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jebo1 wrote:

I have no problem shooting this camera but find it overcomplicated. Take for example the menu buttons besides on the backside. It is very easy to accidentally press them and enter into macro mode. The fact that it switches on and off that easily means that I have to use the special leather case and cannot for example put it in a pouch. Thus it is not really pocketable like a rollei 35 was for example. The image quality, however, is very nice and it has a silent shutter which is a definite plus.

The X100V has a somewhat nicer button arrangement against the T, in MPOV but isn't less complicated. Keep in mind that in "P"-mode you can shoot like any other point-and-shoot camera, so no need to look for buttons. You shoot RAW, so most things can be done during development. Most of the buttons can be blocked, if that is a solution for you. I use mine with the Fujifilm leather case which can be purchased for a lower price, sometimes (got mine as a "refurbished" item).

It not only is silent: Minimum flash sync speed is 1/2000 sec., even the build in flash is useful at daylight. Yes, it's no match to the size of a Rollei 35. It is more like a Leica CL or a Yashica electro 35cc.

Fujifilm X100V

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baobob
baobob Forum Pro • Posts: 18,248
Re: easy if you understand photography, it's not if you don't
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No camera is perfect and "Nobody is perfect"

Given the high qualities of this camera, why not try and adapt to its ergonomics ? The X100 series is wonderful though ergonomics is something a bit special.

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baobob
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No problem of ON/OFF button with my XT3 nor XH1

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crowley213
crowley213 Senior Member • Posts: 1,177
Re: rather complicated
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jebo1 wrote:

+ good lens, good sensor also in low light

- switches off and on too easily when carried in a bag, flash is underpowered, ergonomics.

Hmm, so this is supposed to be a "review" of the Fuji X100T...!

You don't like the X100T... no problem?! Different people, different requirements, different preferences... different opinions.

But... if these 23 words can be called a review, I am not sure. The content of your "review", let me just call it a little bit "limited"... not really revealing anything substantial about this little, imho quite capable, camera.

Sure, I am biased, as I have this little gem since it was released... and personally I really like it. Yes, the camera has its limitations, but so does every other camera... no camera is perfect!

Question: Why did you buy this camera in the first place at all? The specs, the characteristics, the "quirks"... all known since quite some time, considering the camera was released 5 years ago and got in the meantime already 2 successors.

Again, nothing wrong with your opinion... but I hope that other people potentially reading this "review" take it with the famous "grain of salt".

Herbert

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OP jebo1 Regular Member • Posts: 457
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The review is strictly personal. I apologize if I have offended some people. I will ask to withdraw my review.:-)

I bought the camera because it seems a nice and handy camera and has good reviews. On the positive side is the image quality and of course it seems very well made and has that retro appeal. On the negative side for me the points I already mentioned. It is not nice if the battery is drained and you have to carry extra batteries which of course is a solution. I do have that nice fuji leather case but also here the ergonomics are just not that great. You should be able to leave the camera in the case to switch the battery or sd-card. It has that very well invented lip in the bottom. So far so good, however I still have to take it out of the case because the plastic cover does not open in that position. Sorry to mention that!:-(

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Joachim Gerstl
Joachim Gerstl Veteran Member • Posts: 9,169
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Hi,

I understand that you are not a professional reviewer but the low ratings for portraits and flash photography show that you don't understand the camera and how to us it.

Every X100 is excellent for portraits and the flash portraits those cameras produce are excellent too but of course only if you don't restrict ISO or stop down the lens. I recommend to put everything to Auto next time with Auto ISO to max out at ISO 6.400.

I think in most cases the weakest part of the X100 is the person behind the viewfinder which of course also explains the many very positive reviews. If you know what you do it is extremely capable.

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baobob
baobob Forum Pro • Posts: 18,248
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Joachim Gerstl wrote:

I think in most cases the weakest part of the X100 is the person behind the viewfinder

If you know what you do it is extremely capable.

How true ! Probably expandable to many cameras.

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crowley213
crowley213 Senior Member • Posts: 1,177
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jebo1 wrote:

The review is strictly personal. I apologize if I have offended some people. I will ask to withdraw my review.:-)

I bought the camera because it seems a nice and handy camera and has good reviews. On the positive side is the image quality and of course it seems very well made and has that retro appeal. On the negative side for me the points I already mentioned. It is not nice if the battery is drained and you have to carry extra batteries which of course is a solution. I do have that nice fuji leather case but also here the ergonomics are just not that great. You should be able to leave the camera in the case to switch the battery or sd-card. It has that very well invented lip in the bottom. So far so good, however I still have to take it out of the case because the plastic cover does not open in that position. Sorry to mention that!:-(

Hmm, let's phrase it this way... the "only one" who could feel offended by your "review" is the X100T itself. "How dare you to judge me if you neither know me nor understand me!"

But as science thinks that "things" do not have such human emotions, all fine... most likely!

So feel free to state your strictly personal opinion about this camera... while I feel free to question the phrase "review" in this context.

But allow me also some remarks about the negative aspects of the camera you stated...!

The "flash is underpowered"... so what did you expect from an integrated flash? That it will illuminate a cathedral? But as you also value the camera in a negative way regarding portraits you may want to investigate a little the benefit of a leaf shutter in combination with flash... maybe that will put the performance of the flash and the camera in regards to portrait photography in another context.

"Switches off and on too easily"... sure, there are cameras where the on/off switch is more firm. But in all the years I have had never ever the situation where the camera turned itself ON on its own in my bag and that way drained its battery completely, at least as long as you pay some attention to it.

The "nice Fuji leather case" and its problems to change the battery and / or sd card... really? What about figuring that out by just looking at the images of the product? What about going for a third party solution that allows that without taking the camera out?

Finally... ergonomics of the camera! In easy terms... ergonomics are quite subjective. Some like it in a given camera, some don't. Maybe that's the reason that there is a plethora of camera models available in the market... so the customer can choose what he or she likes. The only obligation for the customer... to check that aspect upfront, to not go wrong, to not being disappointed in the end.

You bought the camera because it seems nice and handy and has good reviews...! Hmm, maybe you checked the wrong, means "questionable", reviews... ?

Herbert

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OP jebo1 Regular Member • Posts: 457
Re: rather complicated

Thank you for your comments. Can you advise me on a third-party camera strap and pouch? I do not like the rope neck strap.

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