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E-M1 II playback tip: 1:1

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Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
E-M1 II playback tip: 1:1
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I discovered something in my E-M1 II (firmware 3.5) that I bought last week that I really like.  If you go into the cog menu -> D2 -> Default Settings and then select Equally Value then when you hit the playback button to review a photo and want to zoom in using the rear control wheel then just one click of the wheel will immediately zoom into 1:1 to make it easy to check focus.  I could do this years ago with my Sony A700, but couldn't with my Canon 60D and 30D so I would have to do multiple zooms to get to 1:1.  My PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, and GX7 II can't seem to do that either so I have to zoom in several times to get to 1:1.

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x).  I can turn more and zoom in more, of course.  On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1.  I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Yeah, I know, Equally Valueis another lame Olympus name in the menu.

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J4Hug Senior Member • Posts: 1,483
Re: E-M1 II playback tip: 1:1
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Useful tip, thanks Henry

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Yes this feature was introduced in firmware update V2.0 back in Feb 2018. 

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Well, that is handy!
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I can't say I ever looked at that setting, but very handy.  Did the change on my EM1.3

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OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
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Denjw wrote:

Yes this feature was introduced in firmware update V2.0 back in Feb 2018.

Great.  I didn't know or say when it got introduced.  Glad you already knew about it.  Please share the link to your helpful post back then where you told everyone here about it.  Thanks!  Unfortunately, I missed it.  I didn't have an E-M1 II then so I probably just scrolled by your thread without reading it.

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Aberaeron Forum Pro • Posts: 10,184
Re: E-M1 II playback tip: 1:1

Henry Richardson wrote:

I discovered something in my E-M1 II (firmware 3.5) that I bought last week that I really like. If you go into the cog menu -> D2 -> Default Settings and then select Equally Value then when you hit the playback button to review a photo and want to zoom in using the rear control wheel then just one click of the wheel will immediately zoom into 1:1 to make it easy to check focus. I could do this years ago with my Sony A700, but couldn't with my Canon 60D and 30D so I would have to do multiple zooms to get to 1:1. My PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, and GX7 II can't seem to do that either so I have to zoom in several times to get to 1:1.

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x). I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Yeah, I know, Equally Valueis another lame Olympus name in the menu.

That's not correct for all views. It zooms into the focus point if playback is in full detail view, where the image is in a small area showing the focus point it will zoom in on. Otherwise it will zoom to 2X on the first click and in from there with subsequent clicks of the wheel. I believe that in some or all playback modes the camera will remember what zoom you used the last time and zoom in to there.

So basically it is not simple or straightforward if you start analysing what the camera does and when and why. It just does what it thinks fit.

Denjw
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Re: Please share your link -- Thanks!
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Henry Richardson wrote:

Denjw wrote:

Yes this feature was introduced in firmware update V2.0 back in Feb 2018.

Great. I didn't know or say when it got introduced. Glad you already knew about it. Please share the link to your helpful post back then where you told everyone here about it. Thanks! Unfortunately, I missed it. I didn't have an E-M1 II then so I probably just scrolled by your thread without reading it.

Hmmm.....

I didn't provide a link as another member already had:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60828433

I think it was discussed in that long thread somewhere.

Also Dpreview published it in their news section:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/9702157206/olympus-offers-major-firmware-update-for-om-d-e-m1-ii-e-m5-ii-and-pen-f

It was also included the updated manual  version 3.0.

But as you say you didn't have the E-M1 II then so none of this would have mattered to you at the time.

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OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
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J4Hug wrote:

Useful tip, thanks Henry

I hope you find it useful.

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Re: Well, that is handy!

janeenadamsmartin wrote:

I can't say I ever looked at that setting, but very handy. Did the change on my EM1.3

I took a quick look in my PEN-F with the latest firmware and it doesn't seem to be there.

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Is it the same low Q embedded JPEG...

Henry Richardson wrote:

I discovered something in my E-M1 II (firmware 3.5) that I bought last week that I really like. If you go into the cog menu -> D2 -> Default Settings and then select Equally Value then when you hit the playback button to review a photo and want to zoom in using the rear control wheel then just one click of the wheel will immediately zoom into 1:1 to make it easy to check focus. I could do this years ago with my Sony A700, but couldn't with my Canon 60D and 30D so I would have to do multiple zooms to get to 1:1. My PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, and GX7 II can't seem to do that either so I have to zoom in several times to get to 1:1.

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x). I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Yeah, I know, Equally Valueis another lame Olympus name in the menu.

...as is used on my E-M5 III? Quality deteriorates unusably well before 1:1.

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A gotcha in the Olympus implementation

Henry Richardson wrote:

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x). I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Well, it turns out it isn't as good as my old A700 because of an oversight or quirk in the Olympus implementation.

With the A700 I could press the playbook button to see the photo and then press another button to immediately zoom in to 100%. Then if I wanted to go back to the full image I pressed that button again.

With the E-M1 II the first part is almost the same, but not the second part. With the E-M1 II I press the playback button and then one click of the rear control wheel zooms into 100%. I cannot find any easy way to go back to the full image though except by turning the control wheel several clicks to steadily zoom in less and less until I can see the whole image again.

Does anyone know a way to go back to the full image view immediately?

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Re: A gotcha in the Olympus implementation
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Henry Richardson wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x). I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Well, it turns out it isn't as good as my old A700 because of an oversight or quirk in the Olympus implementation.

With the A700 I could press the playbook button to see the photo and then press another button to immediately zoom in to 100%. Then if I wanted to go back to the full image I pressed that button again.

With the E-M1 II the first part is almost the same, but not the second part. With the E-M1 II I press the playback button and then one click of the rear control wheel zooms into 100%. I cannot find any easy way to go back to the full image though except by turning the control wheel several clicks to steadily zoom in less and less until I can see the whole image again.

Does anyone know a way to go back to the full image view immediately?

I just press the OK button to jump back to unmagnified. It works for me!

However, I do thank you for pointing out the "Equally Value" option, as I've had mine set on the "Recently" option till now, which is slightly more flexible in that it retains the most recent magnification I've used as the first click of the dial option - which is also useful but will occasionally change when I adjusted away from it for a particular image, so occasionally isn't exactly the value I want for the next image. So it's almost a tie (flexibility vs occasional non-ideal magnification the next time) but "Recently" doesn't have the little 1:1 telltale, so it's useful to have that and to finally see that 7x is 1:1 at my settings - thanks! The OK button works as an instant jump back to unmagnified full size image in either mode.

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This is a big help!

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Helen wrote:

The OK button works as an instant jump back to unmagnified full size image in either mode.

Yes, the OK button does this and I've been using it in the Equally mode and pressing the OK to restore whatever default view I had set for review since my first few days with the camera.

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Thank you!

Helen wrote:

I just press the OK button to jump back to unmagnified. It works for me!

Great! Thanks!

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Re: E-M1 II playback tip: 1:1

Henry Richardson wrote:

I discovered something in my E-M1 II (firmware 3.5) that I bought last week that I really like. If you go into the cog menu -> D2 -> Default Settings and then select Equally Value then when you hit the playback button to review a photo and want to zoom in using the rear control wheel then just one click of the wheel will immediately zoom into 1:1 to make it easy to check focus. I could do this years ago with my Sony A700, but couldn't with my Canon 60D and 30D so I would have to do multiple zooms to get to 1:1. My PEN-F, E-M10 II, E-M10, E-M5, and GX7 II can't seem to do that either so I have to zoom in several times to get to 1:1.

Now with the E-M1 II when I turn the rear control wheel to zoom in just one click it immediately goes to 1:1 (I think it is 7x). I can turn more and zoom in more, of course. On the rear display at the bottom there is a small icon that tells you 1:1. I really like that I am now able to do what I always did with my A700 when I got it in 2008.

Yeah, I know, Equally Valueis another lame Olympus name in the menu.

Just set the same on my E-M5 III. Thank you.

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