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Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

Started Oct 25, 2021 | Questions
SekouCaldwell New Member • Posts: 1
Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

Hello All,

I am lucky enough to be on my way to Antarctica in Jan for a few weeks of exploration and photography.  I currently own an R5 and am trying to decide my best telephoto to bring on my trip.  I currently own the Canon EF 100-400, which I use with an EF to RF adaptor on my R5.  Unfortunately, I do not have the budget for an RF 100-500, but am considering purchasing the RF 100-400 in the hopes that a newer lens designed specifically for the RF camera may give better picture quality than an older L series EF lens.  Given the 16 hours of day light, speed isn't really an issue and neither lenses are weather sealed, so that wasn't a decision making point for me either.  Most of the telephoto photography will be of whales and seals.  I plan to bring a 17-40L and maybe a 24-70L as well to complete the travel kit.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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BobKnDP Senior Member • Posts: 3,140
Re: Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

Peter Fritz review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHryPGuA9M

This man is a landscape photographer in the UK, but you might enjoy the review all the same.

Don't know how it would compare for critical applications like birds in flight.

635g (1.4lb) vs 1380g (3.04lb) for the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS I USM.

Disclaimer: I just acquired one, but haven't had much chance to use it.

GEwart Contributing Member • Posts: 626
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I had the EF100-400mm mark 1 a number of years back. I was always disappointed with it's lack of sharpness, I heard there was considerable copy variation and some were very sharp. The mark 2 version by all accounts is much better.

The RF100-400 may perform better than your current lens but you may need to consider that your 100-400 L lens may stand up to Antarctic conditions better than the less well constructed RF lens.

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Dareshooter Veteran Member • Posts: 5,842
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Lucky you . Maybe consider renting a lens from what is presumably a once in a lifetime adventure ?

BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
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SekouCaldwell wrote:

Hello All,

I am lucky enough to be on my way to Antarctica in Jan for a few weeks of exploration and photography. I currently own an R5 and am trying to decide my best telephoto to bring on my trip. I currently own the Canon EF 100-400, which I use with an EF to RF adaptor on my R5. Unfortunately, I do not have the budget for an RF 100-500, but am considering purchasing the RF 100-400 in the hopes that a newer lens designed specifically for the RF camera may give better picture quality than an older L series EF lens. Given the 16 hours of day light, speed isn't really an issue and neither lenses are weather sealed, so that wasn't a decision making point for me either. Most of the telephoto photography will be of whales and seals. I plan to bring a 17-40L and maybe a 24-70L as well to complete the travel kit.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I’ve been using the new RF 100-400 for about a week now on my R6 and so far I’m very impressed.  I definitely am finding it’s superior optically than my EF 100-400L (the original push-pull one) and has faster AF and way better IS. It’s half the weight which is fantastic and though the build is plastic it seems solidly enough built to handle some abuse. It seems like an excellent option for travel and I’m looking forward to bringing it on future trips.

Nelson’s Sparrow w/RF 100-400

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mermaidkiller Senior Member • Posts: 1,450
Re: Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

Get an EF 2x Extender III and mount it between the adapter and the 100-400L. I have done that with a used one and the quality is very good and you can optically zoom in to the penguins. The dim F11 is not an issue for AF at all. In the arctic regions in summer with lots of snow there is even more light.

Another option is the much cheaper (and lighter) RF 100-400 F8 or the 600 or 800mm F11 prime. These are indeed dimmer than the heavy L variants but as said, that is not an issue.

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Martin Muehlemann
Martin Muehlemann Senior Member • Posts: 1,463
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BobKnDP wrote:

Peter Fritz review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHryPGuA9M

This man is a landscape photographer in the UK, but you might enjoy the review all the same.

Actually hes an aussie 😉

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JohnNewman
JohnNewman Senior Member • Posts: 1,000
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Martin Muehlemann wrote:

BobKnDP wrote:

Peter Fritz review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHryPGuA9M

This man is a landscape photographer in the UK, but you might enjoy the review all the same.

Actually hes an aussie 😉

And what's the problem with being a landscape photographer and/or in the UK?  Plus did anyone tell Ansel Adams that landscape photography was not 'critical' work?

I get that the people who shoot BIFs etc would want a longer faster lens but no-one especially Canon ever said that this lens was designed for that purpose. It's not a specialist lens by any means but it does look a good (maybe excellent) lightweight telephoto and will be suitable for many at a price easily affordable and, I predict, will sell in much greater numbers than the exotics which are hugely expensive for good reason.

But thanks for the link to the review,

John

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Charles Sidney Regular Member • Posts: 127
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I received the RF 100-400 lens yesterday and had time for a few tests.  I used my Canon R and compared the RF 100-400mm IS lens to my Canon EF 100-400mm L IS model 1 with an adapter.  In one test I photographed an Edmund Resolving Power Chart #83-001.  At about 40 feet and 400mm focal length the chart more than filled up the viewfinder screen.  I could see all but the last square on each of the diagonals.  I used f/8 and 1/400 sec shutter speed.

I found that the old RF lens (a very good copy) held up very well in the tests.  There was little if any vignetting, and the images were very sharp overall both handheld and on a tripod.  In contrast the RF images appeared to be darker, primarily because of vignetting.  Resolution or apparent sharpness was better on the old EF lens.  There was not much difference at the center, but at the corners the EF lens was clearly better.  The upper left hand corner in the RF images was noticeably less sharp than the others indicating a small bit of decentering.  In nature photography I think the RF lens would be satisfactory.  It is a joy to use because of its size and weight.  The RF images are bright in the viewfinder, and the close focusing feature is very nice.

I will do more testing, but I may return the lens because of decentering.

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dansg21 New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

BirdShooter7 wrote:

SekouCaldwell wrote:

Hello All,

I am lucky enough to be on my way to Antarctica in Jan for a few weeks of exploration and photography. I currently own an R5 and am trying to decide my best telephoto to bring on my trip. I currently own the Canon EF 100-400, which I use with an EF to RF adaptor on my R5. Unfortunately, I do not have the budget for an RF 100-500, but am considering purchasing the RF 100-400 in the hopes that a newer lens designed specifically for the RF camera may give better picture quality than an older L series EF lens. Given the 16 hours of day light, speed isn't really an issue and neither lenses are weather sealed, so that wasn't a decision making point for me either. Most of the telephoto photography will be of whales and seals. I plan to bring a 17-40L and maybe a 24-70L as well to complete the travel kit.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I’ve been using the new RF 100-400 for about a week now on my R6 and so far I’m very impressed. I definitely am finding it’s superior optically than my EF 100-400L (the original push-pull one) and has faster AF and way better IS. It’s half the weight which is fantastic and though the build is plastic it seems solidly enough built to handle some abuse. It seems like an excellent option for travel and I’m looking forward to bringing it on future trips.

Nelson’s Sparrow w/RF 100-400

Any thoughts on the image quality compared to the EF 100-400 MK2? Is it a big gap or quite comparable?

cjb
cjb Contributing Member • Posts: 575
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+1 to this. Rent the best gear you can get your hands on.

  • Seascapes, general ship life: 35mm or 24-70mm zoom
  • Wildlife: 100-500 zoom
  • Extra Batteries

There may be a few opportunities for a 1.4x extender, but in my case, they were very few.

I went a few years ago. I'd totally go back, given the opportunity. It's the closest thing you'll experience to going to another planet.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
Re: Canon EF 100-400 (version 1) vs Canon RF 100-400 for Antarctica

dansg21 wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

SekouCaldwell wrote:

Hello All,

I am lucky enough to be on my way to Antarctica in Jan for a few weeks of exploration and photography. I currently own an R5 and am trying to decide my best telephoto to bring on my trip. I currently own the Canon EF 100-400, which I use with an EF to RF adaptor on my R5. Unfortunately, I do not have the budget for an RF 100-500, but am considering purchasing the RF 100-400 in the hopes that a newer lens designed specifically for the RF camera may give better picture quality than an older L series EF lens. Given the 16 hours of day light, speed isn't really an issue and neither lenses are weather sealed, so that wasn't a decision making point for me either. Most of the telephoto photography will be of whales and seals. I plan to bring a 17-40L and maybe a 24-70L as well to complete the travel kit.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I’ve been using the new RF 100-400 for about a week now on my R6 and so far I’m very impressed. I definitely am finding it’s superior optically than my EF 100-400L (the original push-pull one) and has faster AF and way better IS. It’s half the weight which is fantastic and though the build is plastic it seems solidly enough built to handle some abuse. It seems like an excellent option for travel and I’m looking forward to bringing it on future trips.

Nelson’s Sparrow w/RF 100-400

Any thoughts on the image quality compared to the EF 100-400 MK2? Is it a big gap or quite comparable?

I haven’t had an EF mk2 to test side by side but from looking at my older R6 photos with that lens vs what I’m getting from the RF 100-400 it looks like the RF is lose to the EF lens towards the center of the frame.  Out at the edges and corners it looks like the EF has a pretty noticeable advantage.  I would love to do a side by side to confirm this but that’s the strong impression I’m getting so far.

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