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Final pictures with my E-M1mII

Started Oct 21, 2021 | Discussions
Ouroboros66 Junior Member • Posts: 44
Final pictures with my E-M1mII
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So a few months ago I took advantage of a good offer and got myself a new E-M1mII, sold my old E-M1 and was pretty pleased with myself. End of the summer I went hiking for some days with a couple of friends, which was really the first longer outing for it. Unfortunately the camera got destroyed, so I thought I would share some pictures in its memory.

We were planning to go for 4 days, although the weather prediction didn't look the best for the latter days. The weather was really nice in the beginning, actually, so I'll add here also a sunny weather picture:

My 40-150 plastic fantastic is clearly too short for decent birding, but at least the woodpecker is recongizable:

The first night it rained a little bit, but it stopped in the morning and the day was nice again. The campsite for the second night was really nice and even had a small "kennel" where we decided to sleep, as rain was forecast for the next day, starting early in the morning, and packing a tent in rain is not the most pleasant experience.

Campsite in the morning

The third day it rained a lot, but I still got some nice pictures.

The coolest thing to photograph were some spiderwebs that had collected raindrops:

I've been out in the rain with Olympus cameras before and never had issues before. At some point, the rain got really heavy and I put the camera away. Before that, I took this picture. There's water on the lens, but I think it captures the mood well:

During the evening, the rain got even worse and there was no sign of it stopping. A friend was supposed to join us in the evening, but in the end he offered us an alternative plan of sauna at his place, we took it with enthusiasm and he came to pick us up. As I always do after getting wet, I removed the lens, battery etc. from the camera and left it to dry. But on the next day, the camera did not start and I saw some marks of water inside the battery compartment.

As the camera was under warranty (which does not cover water damage), I took it to our local Olympus/OMDS representative. They checked if it qualifies for repairs (turns out the don't repair older cameras like the mark I at all any more) and told me that they're sending it to the Portugal centre and even if it's not covered by warranty, for a fixed fee of 250 euros they would repair any problem, which seemed like a decent enough option.

Well, in Portugal they decided that "it's not worth to repair", as apparently there is water damage on the electronics, so I was left with a wasted camera and a 25 euro bill for sending it to Portugal.

I did write to OMDS on their support form that this was not really OK, but I haven't gotten any response so far in a month (I did also send them a reminder). I've contacted them twice before, but the replies seemed to get slower each time...

Oh, well, I still have my old gateway drug, the E-M5, which I'm using for now and which still takes pretty nice pictures. Although last weekend, the screen seemed to go black and random times and it took me some on-off fiddling to get it working again, so fingers crossed it doesn't die on me yet...

Olympus 12-40mm F2.8 Pro Olympus E-M1 II Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 60mm F2.8 Macro
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Gary from Seattle Veteran Member • Posts: 7,852
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII
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Sorry to hear your problems but OMD must be profitable. Perhaps a middle ground would work. I'd try to see if they might furnish you with a reconditioned camera at about half price.

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OP Ouroboros66 Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII

Gary from Seattle wrote:

Sorry to hear your problems but OMD must be profitable. Perhaps a middle ground would work. I'd try to see if they might furnish you with a reconditioned camera at about half price.

Thanks. Good suggestion, but I'm not sure how I should do that given they don't respond to me at all. Just an acknowledment that they understand my problem would be something already.

unhappymeal Senior Member • Posts: 2,624
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII

Ouroboros66 wrote:

Gary from Seattle wrote:

Sorry to hear your problems but OMD must be profitable. Perhaps a middle ground would work. I'd try to see if they might furnish you with a reconditioned camera at about half price.

Thanks. Good suggestion, but I'm not sure how I should do that given they don't respond to me at all. Just an acknowledment that they understand my problem would be something already.

I'm curious as to what you think their response should be. They have already assessed the camera and deemed it beyond repair. At this point, all they could say would be "Sorry for your disappointment, but water damage is not covered," which would probably be just as bitter on the palette.

Roger Cicala's tear downs have taught me that while weather sealing is nice to have, nothing beats a sleeve (and insurance).

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII
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Sorry to hear about your misadventure.

Out of curiosity, and pondering the point of failure, were you only using the kit 40-150 or other lenses as well?

If the body seals were in good condition the likely point of water entry is the lens mount flange with the 40-150, but a sealed lens has an o-ring there to prevent entry and then it's hard to guess where water got inside.

I've used sealed Oly cameras and lenses in rain--both 4/3 and m4/3--with no issues. When stowing them outdoors in the rain, I put them inside a sealed bag as extra protection because backpacks are known to leak, and the worst scenario is a camera sitting inside in a puddle for an extended period. Happened to me once with a film camera that luckily dried out and kept working.

The gear is generally rugged and it's disappointing when it fails.

Good luck with a replacement!

Rick

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OP Ouroboros66 Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII

I'm curious as to what you think their response should be. They have already assessed the camera and deemed it beyond repair. At this point, all they could say would be "Sorry for your disappointment, but water damage is not covered," which would probably be just as bitter on the palette.

Roger Cicala's tear downs have taught me that while weather sealing is nice to have, nothing beats a sleeve (and insurance).

For example, they could say "Sorry we promised you to repair it no matter what the issue is. We'll do better in the future."

By the way, just a while ago they sent me a mail about the 8-25mm lens, saying:

"Shoot in rough conditions with confidence with this IPX1-rated lens; splashproof, dustproof, and freezeproof down to -10 C for worry-free,all-weathershooting. Manufactured from durable, long-lasting metal, it takes whatever the outdoors dishes out."

I guess the 12-40 has the same rating... Anyhow I'll know better know to ever be "worry-free" in the rain.

allematic Regular Member • Posts: 475
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I would be very cautious opening the battery door or removing the lens shortly after a photoshoot in the rain because there's always a probability of water getting in the camera when you do that. I always wipe the camera and then let it dry completely for a few hours.

unhappymeal Senior Member • Posts: 2,624
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII

Ouroboros66 wrote:

I'm curious as to what you think their response should be. They have already assessed the camera and deemed it beyond repair. At this point, all they could say would be "Sorry for your disappointment, but water damage is not covered," which would probably be just as bitter on the palette.

Roger Cicala's tear downs have taught me that while weather sealing is nice to have, nothing beats a sleeve (and insurance).

For example, they could say "Sorry we promised you to repair it no matter what the issue is. We'll do better in the future."

Yeah, sales writing cheques that repairs can't cash. It sucks. It sucks a lot and it'd be enough to turn me off a brand completely. I just don't know what you gain by doggedly going after them.

UrbanHobbit
UrbanHobbit Contributing Member • Posts: 998
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I agree that their response could have been better. Every ad and product page I see for Olympus pro-level bodies and lenses includes the same confident marketing shot of a body and lens covered in water droplets, as if it's just been through a waterfall. They set up the cognitive dissonance at the core of this disappointing customer experience. The least they could do is provide some indication of remorse, or even just awareness of the gap, to re-balance the experience and increase their chances of a retaining a customer they cannot afford to lose right now.

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OP Ouroboros66 Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: Final pictures with my E-M1mII

Sorry to hear about your misadventure.

Out of curiosity, and pondering the point of failure, were you only using the kit 40-150 or other lenses as well?

If the body seals were in good condition the likely point of water entry is the lens mount flange with the 40-150, but a sealed lens has an o-ring there to prevent entry and then it's hard to guess where water got inside.

I've used sealed Oly cameras and lenses in rain--both 4/3 and m4/3--with no issues. When stowing them outdoors in the rain, I put them inside a sealed bag as extra protection because backpacks are known to leak, and the worst scenario is a camera sitting inside in a puddle for an extended period. Happened to me once with a film camera that luckily dried out and kept working.

The gear is generally rugged and it's disappointing when it fails.

Good luck with a replacement!

Rick

Thanks!

In the rain I always had the 12-40 on, only changed lenses when it was not raining.

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