Parting Ways with the M6ii

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

I am not really sure why I keep picking  my M6II over my RP when I go out.

If I had a R6 or R5 maybe I would pick one of them over the M6II, I don't know.

Not giving up my 32MM. No way and the M6II is the best body to put behind it.

When a better M body comes along I will buy it to put behind my 32MM and 35MM TS.

m100 wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

I am not really sure why I keep picking my M6II over my RP when I go out.

If I had a R6 or R5 maybe I would pick one of them over the M6II, I don't know.

Not giving up my 32MM. No way and the M6II is the best body to put behind it.

When a better M body comes along I will buy it to put behind my 32MM and 35MM TS.

Yes, the 32mm goes very well with the M6II. If you're ok with its capabilities and limitations, stick with it especially if it works for your kind of photography.

Regret? Depends on what lenses you're exchanging in the process.

32 is easily swapped for the 50. 22 with the 35. The 28 macro is an exception when it comes to primes.

Zooms? That's where things diverge between the systems. There is no equivalent in size to those zooms.

RLight wrote:

Regret? Depends on what lenses you're exchanging in the process.

32 is easily swapped for the 50. 22 with the 35. The 28 macro is an exception when it comes to primes.

Zooms? That's where things diverge between the systems. There is no equivalent in size to those zooms.

And the really good zooms for FF cannot be touched by the EFM system as well. Unless of course they're an EF lens and adapted. That said, yes the portability of M bodies is hard to match. But I've gone past that point.

When I need to use telephoto lenses, it's usually for instances when I don't mind carrying a bigger/heavier bag anyway.

The reach is something I think I will miss but not that much.

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with.  The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP.  But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup.  The grass is greener though with bright zooms

RLight wrote:

Regret? Depends on what lenses you're exchanging in the process.

32 is easily swapped for the 50

no it's not, you have to stop the 50 down to f2.8

. 22 with the 35.

that is a better case on the RP for IQ/ smallness

The 28 macro is an exception when it comes to primes.

maybe for still subjects

the buggers will escape the closeness one has to get

Zooms? That's where things diverge between the systems. There is no equivalent in size to those zooms.

size is one thing

brightness is another

for me RP + RF 24-105L was the answer

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

well, 1/8000 mechanical is nice on the R.

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

I think you just nailed why I basically have sold my Fuji setup and why I never bought M6 mk II, there simply isn't any future for crop.

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

well, 1/8000 mechanical is nice on the R.

that is true

and R is a start to get into fast, expensive primes, but R6 is better if you are going the fast expensive prime route

for size and portability, R becomes an issue if it is left at home

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

KEG wrote:

I think you just nailed why I basically have sold my Fuji setup and why I never bought M6 mk II, there simply isn't any future for crop.

I wouldn't buy fuji because:

1) it doesn't work with dxo PL4 Elite with Deep Prime and

2) the system is bigger and

3) the $1000 primes are more expensive and sigma hasn't come along yet. If the sigma trio was there, AND dxo PL4 elite worked with fuji, then the $1000 X-S10 would be appealing

once Canon wakes up, maybe they revive the M line -- small matters

When running around these days, the smaller, lighter, M6 MKII kit is just so convenient. Sure, the R series are better cameras and in some situations would certainly be the choice, but for more casual shooting, especially when size and weight matter, the M6 is great.

I haven't touched my 5D MKIV since getting the M6 - but I'm keeping it because it will be needed for some occasions. (I've considered selling it and using the money towards an R6, but not sure I'd use that enough to justify it).

Jeff Peterman wrote:

When running around these days, the smaller, lighter, M6 MKII kit is just so convenient. Sure, the R series are better cameras and in some situations would certainly be the choice, but for more casual shooting, especially when size and weight matter, the M6 is great.

I haven't touched my 5D MKIV since getting the M6 - but I'm keeping it because it will be needed for some occasions. (I've considered selling it and using the money towards an R6, but not sure I'd use that enough to justify it).

right

70% of my shooting is the casual times

what do you want to bump around with -- heavy, expensive stuff -- nope

Larawanista wrote:

m100 wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

I am not really sure why I keep picking my M6II over my RP when I go out.

If I had a R6 or R5 maybe I would pick one of them over the M6II, I don't know.

Not giving up my 32MM. No way and the M6II is the best body to put behind it.

When a better M body comes along I will buy it to put behind my 32MM and 35MM TS.

Yes, the 32mm goes very well with the M6II. If you're ok with its capabilities and limitations, stick with it especially if it works for your kind of photography.

Ok with its capabilities ? More like astounded with its capabilities !

Before the 32MM I had never owned a lens that was sharp at f1.4. They cost way too much !

The 32MM with that 32MP sensor and PL4 kinda got rid of my G.A.S.

I have been selling stuff.

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

The grass is much, much greener with my R6 and the just ordered 50mm 1.2 😁 The RP is meant to be my back up when I don't feel like putting the R in the same bag as the R6. I'd likely use only stabilized lenses on the RP while the new 50mm will be for the R6 that has IBIS. The RF35mm feel portable on the RP. I won't go beyond that size-weight ratio when traveling.

But like I said, no one should feel compelled to follow this path just as no one should feel the need to defend the choice of sticking out with a cropped body.

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

well, 1/8000 mechanical is nice on the R.

that is true

and R is a start to get into fast, expensive primes, but R6 is better if you are going the fast expensive prime route

for size and portability, R becomes an issue if it is left at home

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

It's becoming costly to own the R6 for this reason. When I purchased it, I thought I could avoid the temptation of top primes. I succumbed 🤣

Jeff Peterman wrote:

When running around these days, the smaller, lighter, M6 MKII kit is just so convenient. Sure, the R series are better cameras and in some situations would certainly be the choice, but for more casual shooting, especially when size and weight matter, the M6 is great.

I haven't touched my 5D MKIV since getting the M6 - but I'm keeping it because it will be needed for some occasions. (I've considered selling it and using the money towards an R6, but not sure I'd use that enough to justify it).

When you have the chance, try to handle the RP or even the R6. It is so far from the jurassic 5DMIV which I sold a few months into owning the R.

Larawanista wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

well, 1/8000 mechanical is nice on the R.

that is true

and R is a start to get into fast, expensive primes, but R6 is better if you are going the fast expensive prime route

for size and portability, R becomes an issue if it is left at home

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

It's becoming costly to own the R6 for this reason. When I purchased it, I thought I could avoid the temptation of top primes. I succumbed 🤣

Getting a 80l dry box helped me get control over my lens G.A.S. .

I made a rule for myself that all my lenses must fit in that box.

KEG wrote:

I think you just nailed why I basically have sold my Fuji setup and why I never bought M6 mk II, there simply isn't any future for crop.

That's interesting. My friend who owns the largest camera retail group in our country sent me an SX10 with a couple of lenses last week when I told him I was planning to stop shooting with the M6II. He said I should try it. And tried I did.

It was not a bad system at all. I was likely too lazy to tinker with the settings etc. The image quality was surprisingly appealing. The colors were lively. The menu and controls were quite very Canon. I felt like if I wasn't invested in Canon lenses, I would have skipped the M6II for it (though yes it was released more than a year later, by comparison).

I'm sure the cropped sensor body will still be around for a long time. Since 2013, I've been shooting FF and cropped. It was almost like an imperative for my "other" camera body to be a cropped one. The RF system makes this assumption quite obsolete for me. I just don't want compromises anymore and focus more on being creative behind the camera. Not coincidentally, I was just asked by IKEA to present a proposal to do cookshop photography for them, as they're preparing to open their largest store in the world in our metropolis in a few weeks. Whether it pushes through or not, I'm all in with the RF system.

m100 wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

Larawanista wrote:

While my wife still loves her M3, I am in general parting ways with my M6 Mark II and all lenses. My daughter who's a doctor/surgeon will now be using the M6 Mark II as she finds it useful for her work (so we're keeping the fabulous EF28mm 3.5 Marco which she needs and likes using).

This has nothing to do with M bodies, particularly the M6 Mark II, as they are top performing photographic tools. It has nothing to do with the possibility that Canon will no longer upgrade the M series with new body or lenses.

It’s simply doing what makes more sense for me, as well as consolidating my gear towards something more certain – which is the EOS RF system. The lineup of RF lenses keeps improving, and expanding in terms of pricing options. There are affordable primes and “single-kidney” priced ones. Canon no doubt is investing its best on the RF system, which makes it the best way to go.

My typical combo now will be the R + R6 or the RP + R6. I added back the RP to my system so I don’t have to miss the portability of the M6 Mark II. The RP with the RF35mm is quite portable. Very portable with the RF50mm 1.8 (which makes me lose IS, just like my erstwhile favorite combo M6II+32mm).

Let me also share that this is a decision that dovetails nicely to both my personal and professional circumstances. On the personal front, my priority is family travel photography as we are now able to resume some degree of domestic travel and likely some foreign travel by the next quarter of next year. This means mirrorless FF assures me of “no-hassle” photography under any lighting condition (as we love visiting night markets to feast on street food). Nearly all of my paid gigs (a passive but lucrative source of income for me) is now leaning towards corporate portrait and product photography, for which the RF system again is superior.

Do I recommend this for all M system fans? No. The 32mp inside the M6II is a very capable sensor. It is not perfect. It does need some help from DxO software past ISO800. But the level of detail it captures, with the right lens and the right settings, is worthy of praise.

A few weeks or months later, maybe I will regret having taken this path. Or maybe not. I will post here how it’s been by then since anyway, I “conjugally” still have an M3 that I could occasionally use 😊

the 33 mpxl sensor and the 32 f1.4 in a small package with e-shutter of 1/16,000 would be hard for me to part with. The Rf 50 f1.8 on RP doesn't come close when you have to stop down to f2.8 to get m32 sharpness

my FE is also nice on the M6II and my 100L works nice and if I keep my shutter speed up my 55-250stm is there in a portable package

that said, I love my RF 24-105 L on my RP. But the RP is not for fast primes with no e-shutter and ss 1/4000 tops - I hate ND filters

well, 1/8000 mechanical is nice on the R.

that is true

and R is a start to get into fast, expensive primes, but R6 is better if you are going the fast expensive prime route

for size and portability, R becomes an issue if it is left at home

anyway -- best wishes -- but recognize that the grass is not greener with an RP + RF 50 f1.8 setup. The grass is greener though with bright zooms

It's becoming costly to own the R6 for this reason. When I purchased it, I thought I could avoid the temptation of top primes. I succumbed 🤣

Getting a 80l dry box helped me get control over my lens G.A.S. .

I made a rule for myself that all my lenses must fit in that box.

Having my wife's photo as my smartphone wallpaper usually does it for me 😉