What is your standard prime?

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WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
What is your standard prime?

Greetings!

Which standard prime seats on your a6x00 most of the time? Which one do you prefer more?

Especially if you want to have a compact setup.

Thanks for answers!

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Martin_99 Senior Member • Posts: 3,227
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Sony Zeiss 24mm f1.8. I had in the past Sony 20f2.8 and 28f2, but the FL in the middle seems the best for me. Bonus is good close focus distance.

Of course this is highly subjective, everyone have their favourite focal length, which can also change over time. Eg. I'm thinking about Sigma 30f1.4 now..maybe only GAS 😁😁

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Bender79ita
Bender79ita Senior Member • Posts: 1,342
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The 20 pancake for a very compact setup. I can use a lens pouch as camera case with that lens. Image quality is quite nice and AF is ok. Otherwise I'd use the 30 f1.4, but generally I prefer zooms, haven't used these 2 in a while now... might actually sell them both to fund a 70-350 now that I think about it.

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Son Of Mustang Ford Senior Member • Posts: 1,077
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I know its a tad too long for most to consider as 'standard', but the prime that is on my 5n most of the time (about 70%) is the FE85mm f1.8

After that i switch to an old legacy Pentax 20mm f4 - i'm very interested in the recent FE20mm f1.8 (rather than the SEL 20mm f2.8) when funds allow (no time soon), and then i go ultra-wide with the UWA adaptor on the SEL 16mm (rarely do i use the 16mm by itself)

Cheers. C

OP WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
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I don't look why (you could read it in a full review on a site), but Sonys 16 and 20 pancakes is in bad category in the sonyalpha.blog test results.

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Martin_99 Senior Member • Posts: 3,227
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WhoKnow wrote:

I don't look why (you could read it in a full review on a site), but Sonys 16 and 20 pancakes is in bad category in the sonyalpha.blog test results.

I know and like this site, but my experience regarding 20f2.8 sharpness is different. It's surely not breathtaking, but I would move this lens higher somewhere into "good" category.

FYI - shown sheet is based on sharpness only, without counting other aspects.

I used this lens mostly for family photography and was satisfied  by image quality, fast AF and very compact size. The main reason I sold it was, that it's only f2.8, which is not optimal for both lowlight (indoor) shooting and background separation.

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iot3 New Member • Posts: 5
Re: What is your standard prime?

Im using Sony FE 20 G F1,8 with my Sony a6400. It is nice colors, sharp, fast AF. Are you considered Tamron 20 F2,8?

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Martin_99 Senior Member • Posts: 3,227
Re: What is your standard prime?

Son Of Mustang Ford wrote:

I know its a tad too long for most to consider as 'standard', but the prime that is on my 5n most of the time (about 70%) is the FE85mm f1.8

After that i switch to an old legacy Pentax 20mm f4 - i'm very interested in the recent FE20mm f1.8 (rather than the SEL 20mm f2.8) when funds allow (no time soon), and then i go ultra-wide with the UWA adaptor on the SEL 16mm (rarely do i use the 16mm by itself)

Cheers. C

This is really unusual standard prime for apsc camera But of it works for you, why not. I still kind of consider 85mm as long portrait lens instead of 50mm.

For beginner I would probably recommend as "first prime" probably something between 18 and 35mm.

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Bender79ita
Bender79ita Senior Member • Posts: 1,342
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WhoKnow wrote:

I don't look why (you could read it in a full review on a site), but Sonys 16 and 20 pancakes is in bad category in the sonyalpha.blog test results.

I don't know about you... but I take everything I read on the internet with reasonable doubt.

While it might not be the sharpest lens in the world it's very, very far from soft. It doesn't pale too much in comparison with the Tamron 17-70, which is a zoom but is like 6 times the size, weight, and price. It never gave me any issues with focusing either.

It just works very nicely and takes nice pictures, very solid choice for a pocketable street/walkaround photography setup.

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REDunnLev
REDunnLev Contributing Member • Posts: 719
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Does that list consider price?  I would agree with some of the assessments though, and I have many of the lenses.  However, my personal experiences puts the 55-210 in the last place.  The 16mm f/2.8 is not as bad as advertised.  It is only bad at 2.8-4 but around 5.6-11 it is very good.

My choice is the 23mm f/1.4 and my Sony 35mm f/1.8.  They are perfect for family gatherings when you do not want to change your lenses and you do want to get good low light images without using a flash.

I agree the 85mm f/1.8 is the best lens I have used but it is not a standard prime, in the traditional definition.  However, it is great.

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math guy
math guy Senior Member • Posts: 2,843
Viltrox 23
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The Viltrox 23 is my go-to normal prime. Fast (f/1.4) and renders beautifully.

The Sigma 56 is also starting to see a lot more on-camera time lately, but I don't consider 56mm a standard or normal focal length on APS-C. A lot of my photography includes shooting my running 3-year-old from a medium distance, and the Sigma 56 works great for that. I've also learned it makes a great landscape lens. So it's quite versatile, even if it's not what most folks would label a "normal" prime.

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OP WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
Re: Viltrox 23

Between a Viltrox 33 1.4 and Sigma 30 1.4 for the same price which one you choose?

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gabazz Regular Member • Posts: 325
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My favourite lens is the sony 50mmF1.8. Not the best lens but really good for what I need it. It is sharp, has decent out of focus, quck focus acquisition and images look nice. I always have his lens in the bag along with the 16-70.

I also have the Sigma 30mm 1.4. This lens is sharper than the 50mm and some might find the focal length more useful, but I like the flattering of the subject of the 50mm. But The sigma is a solid lens and I am interested in buying the 16mm f1.4. Another cool 30m is the sony macro. I like using this lens, and the ability for macro is great. but it has a lot of issues such as the distance to the subject for marco and mediocre sharpness when shooting wider. but the lens is so cheap and light that there is no reason not to have it. It is almost like a prime kit lens instead of a zoom. decent, can be used for a lot of situations (when light allows) but it is not going to be very impressive. Great for some detail shots including small items such as watches rings, medals, some mechanical pieces of old things such as typewriters, etc...

I have other lenses such as the sigma 19 f2.8. good lens but f2.8 is not enough for a main prime. This lens was great for static car shows pre-COVID.

I also really like a couple of old vintage primes, but I do not list them as i think if you are going for 1 lens, you want at least autofocus, and if the camera does not have IBIS, I think that OSS is a great feature to have.

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math guy
math guy Senior Member • Posts: 2,843
Re: Viltrox 23

WhoKnow wrote:

Between a Viltrox 33 1.4 and Sigma 30 1.4 for the same price which one you choose?

Mine is the Viltrox 23, not the 33. If that's what you meant, then I would choose the Viltrox over the Sigma just for the focal length. I have both, and while the Sigma is a superb lens in terms of IQ, I tend to prefer the 23mm focal length.

If you were indeed asking about the Viltrox 33, I don't have any experience with it. But I can't imagine not being happy with the Sigma if you're looking for something in the 30-35 range.

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OP WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
Re: Viltrox 23

Thanks. I am asking about 33 just because you have a Viltrox and Sigma and thus could compare its IQ and other characteristics.

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math guy
math guy Senior Member • Posts: 2,843
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WhoKnow wrote:

Thanks. I am asking about 33 just because you have a Viltrox and Sigma and thus could compare its IQ and other characteristics.

Yes, that makes sense.

To my eye, the Sigma 30 has a bit more clinical feel to it - like the others in that trio (16, 30, 56) it's razor sharp. The Viltrox is still plenty sharp, just not quite to the extreme the SIgma is; but it has a more comfortable (for lack of a better word) rendering. Both have great IQ, just a little different feel.

I don't know if the Viltrox 33 is similar to the 23 in that respect, but based on a quick Flickr search it looks like it probably is.

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Martin_99 Senior Member • Posts: 3,227
Re: Viltrox 23
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WhoKnow wrote:

Between a Viltrox 33 1.4 and Sigma 30 1.4 for the same price which one you choose?

This a good question, which I asked recently on the forum without much success. At the end I would go for Sigma because of better close focus distance, cheaper price due to massive availability on used market and ...because Sigma as japanese company with long history is more attractive brand to my eyes.

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OP WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
Re: Viltrox 23

Thanks a lot! Will add Viltrox to my check list.

Just an hour ago I have received my first lens - famous 18-135 zoom, only for about $250 (with todays exchange rate) used.

Second will be a fast portrait prime with 50/56 FL.

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José B
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~50mm FF equivalent?
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WhoKnow wrote:

Greetings!

Which standard prime seats on your a6x00 most of the time? Which one do you prefer more?

Especially if you want to have a compact setup.

Thanks for answers!

I have two. One is the Zeiss Touit 32/1.8 that I have for years since I was an early adopter. Two years ago I bought a Sigma 35/1.4 DG Art which is an FF lens but works beautifully with my a6600/A6500.

If I wanted a compact setup I use the Touit as the Sigma is very front heavy. The latter is really designed for DSLR with a built in adapter. However, if I wanted a shallower DOF I would take the Sigma as it's an f/1.4 lens.

Zeiss Touit 32/1.8

Sigma 35/1.4 DG Art

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OP WhoKnow Regular Member • Posts: 190
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Thanks for your opinion! Yes, Zeiss Touit 32/1.8 is interesting because of the compact size and FL near to 50mm FF than Sigma 30

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