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Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?

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techie takes pics Senior Member • Posts: 1,730
Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective);  No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model.  It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common?  Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

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Allan Brown
Allan Brown Veteran Member • Posts: 3,179
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techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective); No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model. It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

I and many others here still use the EP5.

It goes well with the smaller primes such as the P20mm f1.7

I think that the EP7 is just a cheap plastic toy whereas the EP1 to EP5, were the top of the Pen line.

BTW, there is no firmware update to make the IBIS "effective". The firmware you are thinking about is for the 0 second delay for the shutter. The camera is rated at 5 stops and it works.

It may have the same sensor as the EM5 I but I believe the processing engine is different. The release sequence was EM5, EPL5, EP5.

Allan

BG28
BG28 Contributing Member • Posts: 612
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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Great camera! I used mine regularly up until the middle of 2020 (when I got an EM5-3). I'm thinking of having mine converted to full-spectrum.

I'm definitely glad I upgraded, but I still like the size and capabilities of the E-P5. If you're an evf user, I recommend the vf-4. I appreciate having one and also being able to remove the evf if I want something more compact.

The day we see a true successor to the E-P5 will be a Great Day, indeed.

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MiguelATF
MiguelATF Contributing Member • Posts: 516
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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It's a superb, beautifully built small camera. Paired with a tiny pancake-style lens - the 20mm or 14mm immediately come to mind - it's almost a semi-pocketable take-everywhere camera. And in terms of quality, its output is virtually (in real-world terms, at least) indistinguishable from most of the other higher-end and newer micro-four-thirds bodies.

Short answer: YES.  It's 'worth it', and much, much more.

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Guy Parsons
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Re: Olympus E-P5 - still worth it? = Yes.
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techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective);

As mentioned, the IBIS always worked and the update simply added zero sec anti-shock which turned out to be very necessary.

No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

I started with the VF-2 but later abandoned all EVF and way prefer now to always use the screens on any camera. The tilt screen being way better to use for most shots compared to the awkward flip out sideways screens they love to stick on cameras now.

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

Not sure of sensor generation, but it is OK.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

Wow! Grab it if it is a suitable price for your wallet.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model.

The last of the real Pens, the Pen-F was some sort of marketing experiment that didn't quite work out in a time of falling camera sales.

It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels,

That is the only quality issue, some cameras had problems with the front/rear dials and needed warranty repairs. One of my two E-P5 failed during a 6 week holiday but using it like my old E-PL1 with only buttons to press meant that I could still shoot on. The second E-P5 I bought never had any problems.

an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

The 4 MySets on my mode dial mean that I rarely get to use the SCP and even rarer need to menu dive for anything.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

The people who own them and have got past any dial problems love them. A quality Pen like no other.

For me after E-PL1 > E-PL5 > E-P5 I simply found peace at last so stopped buying - except for lenses.

The mode dials now have different home made tops and now show simply "1,2,3,4" for the 4 assigned MySets.

My version of the menus maybe a bit more sensible than the manual http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~parsog/olyepl1/56-ep5-custom-menus.html

sillycornlotty
sillycornlotty Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective); No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model. It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

E-P5 is a great camera, but be very carefully when purchase used. The front and back dials are prone to fail after 2-3 years of use. The dials might appears normal at first, only missing one or two clicks per full rotation, but will quickly deteriorate to total non-responsiveness.

Pen F, I own one at the moment, purchased used. Howver, it doesn't feel very solid and well built. The fully articulate LCD screen seems to wiggle abit when tilted open, i saw a small crack on bottom left corner, maybe it has been used extensively or damaged by accident. I only hope it is alot more durable than the E-P5.

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Kodachromelover Junior Member • Posts: 37
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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I bought mine in 2013. What a wonderful camera!

An unconspicuous, solid, customizable one. Perfect for street photography and long trips. Wonderful colours.

As for sharpness, the RAW files are a bit soft,, but JPGs are only a little bit less defined than those from my E-M1 Mk III I bought last year. A little difference.

L

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Isola Verde
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Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?

I've found that both JPG and RAW images from mine suffer from very noticeable chromatic aberrations (bright blue-purple edges against overcast skies, and sometimes purple and green fringes to the sides of objects), particularly when used with the Panasonic 14mm f2.5 prime and the Olympus 9-18 zoom.

With Panasonic 14mm

With Oly 9-18

Those are both from RAWs. (The offending areas can often be partly or entirely wholly cleaned up in LR or similar, but rather a chore if you've lots of shots to do!)

I gather it wasn't until the subsequent launch of their E-M1, which used the next version of their TruePic processor, that Oly came closer to a fix for this - so I'd advise noting which, if any, of your own lenses are best not used with the camera.

Such problems aside, a lovely machine that's also very enjoyable to use!

Peter

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OP techie takes pics Senior Member • Posts: 1,730
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - CA ?
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Chromatic abberation - is that normally already corrected in Raw and does this camera not do a good job correcting it?

Or is it because of the sensor that it is more prone to CA?

(and indeed, very enjoyable to use. It is about as vintage as a digital camera can be while at the same time totally relevant and up to standards. I love that)

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inlawbiker Senior Member • Posts: 2,066
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?
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techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective); No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model. It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

It's a good one, simple by modern standards but a quality camera. I used one for a while, there are 2 things to think about. First, the obvious lack of viewfinder. You can plug one in but it stands out a bit, a minor annoyance. It also suffer from the same rear-wheel problem the E-M1 did where it skips a click when you turn it, mine had this issue.

Personally, I would get an E-M10 II instead. Nothing wrong with the e-p5, it's a high quality camera. E-M10 II has a built-in EVF making the whole package a bit smaller, plus it has newer features (live composite, etc). I just love those long exposure features.

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OP techie takes pics Senior Member • Posts: 1,730
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?

inlawbiker wrote:

techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective); No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model. It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

It's a good one, simple by modern standards but a quality camera. I used one for a while, there are 2 things to think about. First, the obvious lack of viewfinder. You can plug one in but it stands out a bit, a minor annoyance. It also suffer from the same rear-wheel problem the E-M1 did where it skips a click when you turn it, mine had this issue.

Personally, I would get an E-M10 II instead. Nothing wrong with the e-M5, it's a high quality camera. E-M10 II has a built-in EVF making the whole package a bit smaller, plus it has newer features (live composite, etc). I just love those long exposure features.

You're right there - the M10.II is a total gem.   Mine was damaged, which made me look at the second hand market.  There I saw an E-PL5 advertised but when I went to the seller, I noticed it was an E-P5.  I haggled the price down a bit and I was very happy with the result.

I'm still getting my M10.II repaired though! That camera is just so much goodness in such a small package.
No wonder they simplified it in the Mark III - it was just too good.
Example: Even the M5.III (much newer, and a more advanced model) does not have program 4 custom modes it can program on the mode-dial.

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Edward Lowy
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Absolutely love the EP5. Beautiful to use, look at, probably has had more attention than my PEN-F when out and about. Flip screen so much better than the side-swinger. Love that you can add a viewfinder (VF2 in my case). Image quality excellent, better low-light focusing than the PEN-F. Glorious, will never part with mine.

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Allan Brown
Allan Brown Veteran Member • Posts: 3,179
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Isola Verde wrote:

I've found that both JPG and RAW images from mine suffer from very noticeable chromatic aberrations (bright blue-purple edges against overcast skies, and sometimes purple and green fringes to the sides of objects), particularly when used with the Panasonic 14mm f2.5 prime and the Olympus 9-18 zoom.

With Panasonic 14mm

With Oly 9-18

Those are both from RAWs. (The offending areas can often be partly or entirely wholly cleaned up in LR or similar, but rather a chore if you've lots of shots to do!)

I gather it wasn't until the subsequent launch of their E-M1, which used the next version of their TruePic processor, that Oly came closer to a fix for this - so I'd advise noting which, if any, of your own lenses are best not used with the camera.

Such problems aside, a lovely machine that's also very enjoyable to use!

Peter

The PF that you see has more to do with the lens rather than the camera. I also have those two lenses and see the same PF whereas different Oly lenses do not.

I believe that the version of processing engine in the EP5 did not remove PF from Panny lenses. The Oly 9-18 is one of the few Oly lenses that exhibit PF.

It is not a major problem and I use the EP5 with Panasonic lenses quite often. As you say, raw processors such as Lightroom and Photolab remove it anyway.

The IQ boost from DXO PL4 breaths a new life into the EP5 images.

Allan

rsmithgi Senior Member • Posts: 2,939
Re: Olympus EP5 (not e-pl5) - still worth it?

techie takes pics wrote:

Just got my hands on an EP5.

It's a 2013 camera which has 5-axis ibis (although it needed a firmware update to make it effective); No silent shutter and no viewfinder (it's not a Pen-F).

Still, it's metal built and it has a great retro-look. Supposedly has the same sensor as the original M5-I.

It has 161 clicks and it still has the foil on the LCD.

I know the Pen-F is popular but I had not heard of this model. It feels like a lot of fun - it has two control wheels, an Fn-lever, 4 custom modes programmable on the dial (feature was eventually removed on the M10.III) and 3 freely programmable buttons.

Opinions - rare or common? Is it a tad too old? Great fun?

I have one in silver along with the VF-4 viewfinder. Not using it since getting the E-M5.3. I will be selling it at some point. I just don't keep equipment that I am not using. Enjoyed the camera and it fit neatly along side an E-M1.1 for 5 years. E-P5 for travel and events and E-M1 for sports and outdoors.

One word of caution, that model was susceptible to dial failure. Mine did and was repaired under warranty. No issues since.

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 3,290
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I had the ep5 with the vf4 - a great camera, solidly built.  I did sell it but only because I was using my original em5.1 more.

I should keep in and enjoy it - they don’t build too many cameras like that these days.

I always find 16 mpx and the contrast detect AF absolutely fine for most of what I want these cameras for.

Guy Parsons
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E-P5 and DxO
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Allan Brown wrote:

The IQ boost from DXO PL4 breaths a new life into the EP5 images.

Of that there is no doubt.

Good jpegs from camera, may need a touch of improving.

Raw file > DxO PL4 = Yikes, often spectacularly better. Particularly at higher ISO and using DeepPRIME.

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Re: E-P5 and DxO

Guy Parsons wrote:

Allan Brown wrote:

The IQ boost from DXO PL4 breaths a new life into the EP5 images.

Of that there is no doubt.

Good jpegs from camera, may need a touch of improving.

Raw file > DxO PL4 = Yikes, often spectacularly better. Particularly at higher ISO and using DeepPRIME.

deepprime is amazing as witnessed by the Nikon 1 community - I can push iso now to 3200 or more and get useable results.

So, for ep5 em5.1, 2 and most m43 which have 1 stop advantage over those 1 inch sensors even better !

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