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stemcell Regular Member • Posts: 366
Please help

I have been using Photoshop for stacking images for several years. After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). I checked the size of the merged images and they were all 8 bits/channel RGB color. What can I do to save these images as jpegs? What did I inadvertently do during processing to get this limited output menu? Thanks for the help.

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Horacecoker Veteran Member • Posts: 3,817
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stemcell wrote:

I have been using Photoshop for stacking images for several years. After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). I checked the size of the merged images and they were all 8 bits/channel RGB color. What can I do to save these images as jpegs? What did I inadvertently do during processing to get this limited output menu? Thanks for the help.

Photoshop changed things in a recent update. You now have to click 'save a copy' to get the jpeg option in the dropdown box. It's no bother once you get used to it. I think there's also a way to get it back to how it was in settings/preferences somewhere.

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Horacecoker wrote:

stemcell wrote:

I have been using Photoshop for stacking images for several years. After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). I checked the size of the merged images and they were all 8 bits/channel RGB color. What can I do to save these images as jpegs? What did I inadvertently do during processing to get this limited output menu? Thanks for the help.

Photoshop changed things in a recent update. You now have to click 'save a copy' to get the jpeg option in the dropdown box. It's no bother once you get used to it. I think there's also a way to get it back to how it was in settings/preferences somewhere.

You can revert the change via these settings:

  • (macOS) Photoshop > Preferences > File Handling > File Saving Options
  • (Windows) Edit > Preferences > File Handling > File Saving Options

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/saving-images.html

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gordonpritchard Veteran Member • Posts: 5,078
Try this first

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

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Horacecoker wrote:

stemcell wrote:

I have been using Photoshop for stacking images for several years. After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). I checked the size of the merged images and they were all 8 bits/channel RGB color. What can I do to save these images as jpegs? What did I inadvertently do during processing to get this limited output menu? Thanks for the help.

Photoshop changed things in a recent update. You now have to click 'save a copy' to get the jpeg option in the dropdown box. It's no bother once you get used to it. I think there's also a way to get it back to how it was in settings/preferences somewhere.

Open Photoshop:   Click, Photoshop>Preferences>File Handling.  Under File Saving Options, click on the area that says, Enable Legacy "save as".

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OP stemcell Regular Member • Posts: 366
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Thanks for the helpful suggestions.

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Re: Try this first

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

gordonpritchard Veteran Member • Posts: 5,078
Re: Try this first

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

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Re: Try this first

gordonpritchard wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

ok   I'm not a Photoshop user so I don't know why it would do that.

Horacecoker Veteran Member • Posts: 3,817
Re: Try this first

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

ok I'm not a Photoshop user so I don't know why it would do that.

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

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Q-ball
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Re: Try this first

Horacecoker wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

ok I'm not a Photoshop user so I don't know why it would do that.

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

I've never had to flatten images in Photoshop Elements either to save to a jpeg.

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In my ancient CS6 there is an option "Save for web" which is JPEG. Dunno if it's still there in newer reincarnations.

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gordonpritchard Veteran Member • Posts: 5,078
Here's an example of my point about flattening.

Horacecoker wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

ok I'm not a Photoshop user so I don't know why it would do that.

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

Okay, some screen shots:

Top image has two layers. Note that the save menu does not include jpg option while the flattened image below allows saving as a jpg.

You can search about layers in jpgs to confirm that jpgs don't support layers. If your experience is different then please show us how to save a layered image in jpg format.

As I originally wrote, the OP should make sure that their image is flattened before saving as jpg.

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Horacecoker Veteran Member • Posts: 3,817
Re: Here's an example of my point about flattening.

gordonpritchard wrote:

Horacecoker wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Q-ball wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

It may look flattened to you but might not be to PShop.

So, first check your layers to make sure that your image is actually "flattened" before saving.

I would be very surprised if Photoshop requires an image to be flattened manually before you can save it as a jpeg.

In Photoshop Elements you can certainly save a multi-layer image directly as a jpeg without having to first manually flatten the image.

But of course when you re-open the saved jpeg into PSE it comes in as a single background layer.

And yet it has done that to me at least.

ok I'm not a Photoshop user so I don't know why it would do that.

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

Okay, some screen shots:

Top image has two layers. Note that the save menu does not include jpg option while the flattened image below allows saving as a jpg.

You can search about layers in jpgs to confirm that jpgs don't support layers.

I never said anything about jpegs supporting layers.

If your experience is different then please show us how to save a layered image in jpg format.

Of course, saving a PSD or raw file as a jpeg doesn't retain the layers, what a silly thing to say.

Here's a screengrab of using the Save As option of a layered PSD file as a jpeg without flattening the layers.

As I originally wrote, the OP should make sure that their image is flattened before saving as jpg.

Perhaps the OP will tell us what his problem was as I'm 99.9% certain it was the Photoshop undate and nothing whatsoever to do with layers.

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gordonpritchard Veteran Member • Posts: 5,078
Re: Here's an example of my point about flattening.

Horacecoker wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Horacecoker wrote:

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

Okay, some screen shots:

Top image has two layers. Note that the save menu does not include jpg option while the flattened image below allows saving as a jpg.

You can search about layers in jpgs to confirm that jpgs don't support layers.

I never said anything about jpegs supporting layers.

If your experience is different then please show us how to save a layered image in jpg format.

Of course, saving a PSD or raw file as a jpeg doesn't retain the layers, what a silly thing to say.

Here's a screengrab of using the Save As option of a layered PSD file as a jpeg without flattening the layers.

As I originally wrote, the OP should make sure that their image is flattened before saving as jpg.

Perhaps the OP will tell us what his problem was as I'm 99.9% certain it was the Photoshop undate and nothing whatsoever to do with layers.

"Save As" does not let me save the layered image as a jpg.

"Save a Copy" Allows me to save the image as a jpg because PShop flattens a copy of the layered image.

The OP wrote: "After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). "

That says to me that the OP merged the images into one. He didn't have jpg as a "save as" option because, although merged, it wasn't flattened as far as PShop was concerned. If the OP flattened the image as I suggested the jpg option would have been available. Alternatively the OP could have chosen to "Save a Copy" and PShop would allowed the jpg option and PShop would have done the flattening behind the scenes and saved the image as a jpg.

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Horacecoker Veteran Member • Posts: 3,817
Re: Here's an example of my point about flattening.

gordonpritchard wrote:

Horacecoker wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Horacecoker wrote:

I am a PS user and have never needed to flatten layers to save as a jpeg. I would have thought that anybody who has recently updated PS would know it was obvious what the OP's problem was.

Okay, some screen shots:

Top image has two layers. Note that the save menu does not include jpg option while the flattened image below allows saving as a jpg.

You can search about layers in jpgs to confirm that jpgs don't support layers.

I never said anything about jpegs supporting layers.

If your experience is different then please show us how to save a layered image in jpg format.

Of course, saving a PSD or raw file as a jpeg doesn't retain the layers, what a silly thing to say.

Here's a screengrab of using the Save As option of a layered PSD file as a jpeg without flattening the layers.

As I originally wrote, the OP should make sure that their image is flattened before saving as jpg.

Perhaps the OP will tell us what his problem was as I'm 99.9% certain it was the Photoshop undate and nothing whatsoever to do with layers.

"Save As" does not let me save the layered image as a jpg.

"Save a Copy" Allows me to save the image as a jpg because PShop flattens a copy of the layered image.

The OP wrote: "After I make my merged image, I go to “save as” and in the output menu I would see jpeg and save it as a jpeg. Recently, (last week), when I went to the output menu I only had 4 options (Photoshop, Large Document Format, Photoshop PDF and TIFF). "

That says to me that the OP merged the images into one. He didn't have jpg as a "save as" option because, although merged, it wasn't flattened as far as PShop was concerned. If the OP flattened the image as I suggested the jpg option would have been available. Alternatively the OP could have chosen to "Save a Copy" and PShop would allowed the jpg option and PShop would have done the flattening behind the scenes and saved the image as a jpg.

But you are completely ignoring the fact that a recent Photoshop update will only show these reduced saving options whether you flatten the image or not. This same update had me baffled at first and probably thousands of other PS users. The fix is easy and has been explained in this thread.

Have you actually read the other replies?

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Graham Meale wrote:

In my ancient CS6 there is an option "Save for web" which is JPEG. Dunno if it's still there in newer reincarnations.

The latest Photoshop Elements also has "Save for web" which saves to a jpeg but strips out all the exif data but gives the option to embed only the working colour space used to create the image.

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I believe the problem was the PS update. I was able to save the merged images as jpeg using the save a copy command. Again, thanks for the help.

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