UW DX zoom recommendation needed

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m1964 Contributing Member • Posts: 754
UW DX zoom recommendation needed

awwHi all,

I was not sure if I should post this question in Nikon SLR or 3rd party lens forum but then figured out the DX forum probably would be the best place.

I just came back from Lisbon where I used D7100 + Nikon 16-80mm. The combo was just fine except for a few places where I found I could use a wider lens.

I cannot carry two lenses because of a physical limitation but I could "predict" the need for an UW zoom when we were going to museums or castle interiors.

So I checked the "usual suspects":

Nikon 10-20 AF-P, Nikon 10-24mm and Tamron 10-24mm:

all three have max. aperture of f/3.5.

The Tokina 11-20mm has max. aperture of f/2.8.

I did not consider Tokina 14-20mm because it is not much wider then my current zoom, even though it's max. aperture f/2.0 looks very attractive.

Side note: about 10 years ago I bought Tokina 12-28mm and returned it because I did not like its feel and images were not so great. If I remeber correctly the lens had low contrast/no "pop" comparing to Nikon.

While we are not planning any more vacations at the moment, I'd like to get an advice now so I can possibly look at used market or BF sales.

Thanks

 m1964's gear list:m1964's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Tamron SP 85mm F1.8 Di VC USD Nikon AP-F 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E Tamron SP 35mm F1.4 Di USD
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Blufftonian
Blufftonian Senior Member • Posts: 1,216
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
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My "museum/art gallery/night time" lens has always been the little 35mm DX f/1.8G.  At $180 it's a bargain and what it lacks in WA it more than makes up for in speed.

I have the 16-80 and the 10-24 (significant distortion at the wide end) but I can always make room in my camera bag for the much smaller 35mm.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Nikon 200-500mm F5.6E ED VR Nikon 500mm F5.6E PF +7 more
OP m1964 Contributing Member • Posts: 754
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
  1. Blufftonian wrote:

My "museum/art gallery/night time" lens has always been the little 35mm DX f/1.8G. At $180 it's a bargain and what it lacks in WA it more than makes up for in speed.

I have the 16-80 and the 10-24 (significant distortion at the wide end) but I can always make room in my camera bag for the much smaller 35mm.

Thanks for the reply- - I need something wider than 16mm.

Your 10-24mm: is it Nikon or Tamron?

 m1964's gear list:m1964's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Tamron SP 85mm F1.8 Di VC USD Nikon AP-F 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E Tamron SP 35mm F1.4 Di USD
F8AD
F8AD Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed

I have the Tokina 11-16 f 2.8 for DX and like it very well.
It's sharp and often priced reasonably ; worth buying new due to the price of a used one because you get a generous warranty when purchased new..

Bobthearch
Bobthearch Forum Pro • Posts: 10,344
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
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I've got the Tokina 11-16, and I think the color and contrast *pops* just fine.

Re: Which UWA DX zoom to prefer? (unhappy with N10-20 AFP): Nikon SLR Lens Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

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Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Micro-Nikkor 85mm f/3.5G ED VR Tokina AT-X Pro 11-16mm f/2.8 DX II Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +2 more
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Senior Member • Posts: 1,216
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
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m1964 wrote:

  1. Blufftonian wrote:

My "museum/art gallery/night time" lens has always been the little 35mm DX f/1.8G. At $180 it's a bargain and what it lacks in WA it more than makes up for in speed.

I have the 16-80 and the 10-24 (significant distortion at the wide end) but I can always make room in my camera bag for the much smaller 35mm.

Thanks for the reply- - I need something wider than 16mm.

Your 10-24mm: is it Nikon or Tamron?

AF-S DX NIKKOR 10-24mm F3.5-4.5G ED

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Nikon 200-500mm F5.6E ED VR Nikon 500mm F5.6E PF +7 more
rdavy Regular Member • Posts: 403
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
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The Nikkor 10-20mm AF-P has max aperture f4.5 doesn't it ?

Even so, with 3.5 stops VR, it technically would allow you to shoot at slower shutter speeds and lower ISO when hand held indoors, compared with an f2.8 lens with no VR.

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OP m1964 Contributing Member • Posts: 754
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed

rdavy wrote:

The Nikkor 10-20mm AF-P has max aperture f4.5 doesn't it ?

Even so, with 3.5 stops VR, it technically would allow you to shoot at slower shutter speeds and lower ISO when hand held indoors, compared with an f2.8 lens with no VR.

Yes, it should.

I could not compare it to other lenses on dxomark.com- they may not have tested it.

Some of the reviews I found say it is soft esp. in the corners unless stopped down.

So far I am leaning to Tokina 10-20, 14-20 or possibly Tamron 10-24.

Tokina 14-20 gets the best rating and reviews and is the cheapest, too.

 m1964's gear list:m1964's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Tamron SP 85mm F1.8 Di VC USD Nikon AP-F 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E Tamron SP 35mm F1.4 Di USD
rich_cx139 Senior Member • Posts: 2,365
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed

I have the Tamron 10-24 HLD and chose it over the Tokinas and Sigmas because of user reviews.

It also has had good reviews by Chris Frost and Dustin Abbott albeit in Canon mount.

Its used for landscapes and I suggest that for castle and building interiors it might be worth your while estimating typical light values ( you can get these from google ), work out what iso you find tolerable, depth of field etc to see how bright a lens you need. I wonder if a 3.5-4.5 will be bright enough if you have any movement in frame. BUT the stabilisation is good so for static subjects handheld it should be fine.

The 35/1.8 is a great lens but maybe not wide enough for interiors.

It the 2.8 tokinas, I liked the look of the 11-16 more but the range is limited and no stabilisation.

OP m1964 Contributing Member • Posts: 754
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed

rich_cx139 wrote:

I have the Tamron 10-24 HLD and chose it over the Tokinas and Sigmas because of user reviews.

It also has had good reviews by Chris Frost and Dustin Abbott albeit in Canon mount.

Its used for landscapes and I suggest that for castle and building interiors it might be worth your while estimating typical light values ( you can get these from google ), work out what iso you find tolerable, depth of field etc to see how bright a lens you need. I wonder if a 3.5-4.5 will be bright enough if you have any movement in frame. BUT the stabilisation is good so for static subjects handheld it should be fine.

The 35/1.8 is a great lens but maybe not wide enough for interiors.

It the 2.8 tokinas, I liked the look of the 11-16 more but the range is limited and no stabilisation.

Hi Rich,

Thanks for replying to my post- I like the range of the Tamron, esp. comparing to Tokina 14-20mm.

I have two Tamron prime lenses (FF) and like the images they produce.

I am not sure, however, if buying any DSLR lens and esp. DX lens is the best way to spend the money (which do not grow on a tree in our backyard), due to the proliferation of the ML systems.

Maybe as a second hand, even though I did not have good experience with only one lens I bought used off eBay.

In any case, I need to process the pictures I made in Lisbon and check the parameters, just l ike you said.

Depending on those, I should be able to decide if I really need a f/2.8 zoom.

thanks again

 m1964's gear list:m1964's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Tamron SP 85mm F1.8 Di VC USD Nikon AP-F 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E Tamron SP 35mm F1.4 Di USD
Bobthearch
Bobthearch Forum Pro • Posts: 10,344
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed

...  Depending on those, I should be able to decide if I really need a f/2.8 zoom.

thanks again

It sure is nice with indoor architecture and low-light scenery to shoot a lot more handheld.

The price is comparable, Nikon vs. Tokina DX, but the faster lenses are so much heavier and bulkier, which might be an issue.  That's the trade-off.

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 Bobthearch's gear list:Bobthearch's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Micro-Nikkor 85mm f/3.5G ED VR Tokina AT-X Pro 11-16mm f/2.8 DX II Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +2 more
OP m1964 Contributing Member • Posts: 754
Re: UW DX zoom recommendation needed
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Bobthearch wrote:

... Depending on those, I should be able to decide if I really need a f/2.8 zoom.

thanks again

It sure is nice with indoor architecture and low-light scenery to shoot a lot more handheld.

The price is comparable, Nikon vs. Tokina DX, but the faster lenses are so much heavier and bulkier, which might be an issue. That's the trade-off.

Yes- Nikon 10-20 230g, Tokina 11-20 555g.

May not be so noticable when mounted on D7100 body. Still extra 325g and larger.

Will be checking BF sales- got to quiet down my GAS.🤣

 m1964's gear list:m1964's gear list
Nikon D7100 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 16-80mm F2.8-4E ED VR Tamron SP 85mm F1.8 Di VC USD Nikon AP-F 70-300mm F4.5-5.6E Tamron SP 35mm F1.4 Di USD
fotoph Contributing Member • Posts: 741
Buy the Sigma 8-16mm

sigma 8-16mm

It's tops

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