Still patiently waiting for the next 1:1:1 Foveon camera ...

Ceistinne wrote:

Johannes,

Waiting & hoping. Wouldn't it be nice to hear some positive news about it soon.

S

Sure . . . of course.

danski0224 wrote:

From what I remember reading, the Merrill sensor didn't play well with adapted lenses.

For some reason, the Quattro sensor doesn't have that issue (or it isn't as bad).

Also unsure how well either sensor type will work with a shorter flange distance and adapted lenses.

My SD1 coloration across the frame was TERRIBLE with M42 adapted lenses. My sd Quattro was so much better that I didn't notice it. But there was a very small amount of coloration across the image frame.

My SD15 was great with adapted lenses and I did not notice coloration across the frame.

I notice with my fp L + Sigma 45mm F2.8 DG DN lens that there is one color distortion setting I am not able to turn off: the camera says it is required due to the particular lens I have on it. So it seems that as the pixel count goes up, coloration across the frame becomes an issue regardless of sensor technology. Much of this is likely a consequence of the closer flange distance (20mm for L mount vs 44mm for SA mount).

I do have a third party L mount manual lens on order, and maybe it will show me a little coloration across the frame.  The fp L has a setting to manually control coloration across the frame, and there are some fine adjustments in it.  I might be able to correct it, even in third party manual lenses, if it becomes bothersome.  This feature would be essential in a 1:1:1 full frame Foveon L mount camera I think.

A friend with a fp uses adapted lenses a lot (some wide angles as well) and has not complained about coloration, but the fp pixel density is less than in the fp L.

My guess is an APS-C size 1:1:1 Foveon sensor with maybe 5mp could do OK on L-mount with adapted lenses. Or even a sd Quattro sensor. Not a Merrill sensor though.

But, I've basically given up on a full frame Foveon. The fp L is doing fine when images are downsized, and I can shoot with it now, not some distant tomorrow.

FDecker wrote:

Amadeus21 wrote:

Thanks a lot! to you all guys for your encouraging and concordant comments. I hope that our respect, our hope and encouragement will arrive at Mr. Yamaki and his team.
The picture has been taken with my most often used lens, the Sigma 18–35, 1:1.8 DC. I think from a distance of 15–20 meters.
As I read your comment, FDecker, I had a good smile. Thank you! But I think, that would be really to much even for a Foveon sensor and a really good lens! An other part of the pict shows, that these are happy birds in the sky (swallows) in some 150 (?) meters distance. (XPatUSA will do the math for us

Do we wait and hope – what else should we do

I am still convinced these are insects. Larger ones of course like bees. Check them out. If these would be birds, they wouldn‘t show up as circles. Not all of them. The two ones you markes with a circle also don‘t look like distant birds. But well, no reason to argue about it.

I agree. If they're birds, they're the fattest birds with the smallest wings I have ever seen. I wonder what kind of insects they are.